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El-Man

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« #200 : 02-11-2011 20:45 »

Looks like you just need to stretch her head a little, and you've got it made. What's behind this pic, anyway? Is Morgan taking some liberties with new recruit Leela?
futz
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« #201 : 02-11-2011 21:31 »
« : 02-11-2011 21:46 »

Cranium is the circle, the eye/nose/cheek/mouth "muzzle" sort of hangs on it.
Then a neck stem behind the muzzle and into the cranium to hold it all upright.

You may find a wireframe of one of mine helpful (or maybe not). A bit different
method using only vector art and not pencil, but it's "just the facts".

Marcus
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« #202 : 02-12-2011 00:35 »
« : 02-12-2011 01:56 »

Morgan looking on approvingly with heavy, half-hooded eyes - exact expression I was after! No, that does make it clearer, thank you; shock-horror, I may have to add an innovation to how I draw now - this is a more useful conceptualisation of groeningistic heads than mine :)

Hey El, good to see you! After... 5 years (...), I've finally hit on a Federal Sex Bureau scenario I'm happy with! Leela in a spectacularly misjudged (and temporary, I suspect) career change is a low level Stress Management Technician for the FSB on secondment to the Central Bureaucracy, and Morgan one of her first (and likely last) clients. All followed on from this pic:


El-Man

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« #203 : 02-12-2011 01:52 »

After... 5 years (...), I've finally hit on a Federal Sex Bureau scenario I'm happy with!

With a jacket cut that low and such a short skirt, the FSB is aptly named. :flirt:
lemily33

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« #204 : 02-14-2011 05:29 »
« : 02-14-2011 05:32 »

[HIMYM image}
"General Art"

Oh, so very yes. :)

Because shut up this movie was good.



I love it!

Sorry I'm late to the party. This is a great thread. :)
wu_konguk

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« #205 : 02-15-2011 08:19 »

Wow certainly some nice work in this thread, make me wnat to dig out the old tablet and have a play (not a euphamism in this case).

Really nice work Mr Marcus. The characters are nicely on model and I can not wait to see them in completion.

Now the main question to myself do I create some art for the "other" Futurama site that I really could not share here or owrk on some Futurama parody ideas that have been buzzing in my head? ... a real conundrum
tyraniak

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« #206 : 02-16-2011 19:26 »

Zmithy

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« #207 : 02-20-2011 09:08 »
« : 02-20-2011 09:14 »

Oh, that's quite an interesting way to look at them; heads as a circle and a cylinder? I've always thought of the heads from collar to crown, hence the circle/oblong comparison:

If you look at the drawing guides on the dvd's fry's head is drawn in a similar way... in fact so is Leela's.

I'm amazed you haven't been building up from a circle where the eyes are the mid-point already... I always do that as standard practice and I can't think of a single groening character that doesn't follow this rule in some form or another.

That said, being able to draw on-model without needing the help sphere/cylinder guides shows that you're *really* familiar with the characters. It will just trip you up on ones like Morgan that don't get drawn very often if you can't nail down a good wireframe to start with.
Marcus
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« #208 : 02-20-2011 12:53 »
« : 02-20-2011 12:57 »

...I should probably admit at this point that I have never knowingly used a wireframe for body or head... also, it took me like 7 years to start using simple 1- or 2-point perspective systems... or outlining in anything but black...

Perils of uninformed amateurism!

No, I knew the dvds gave good guides to character construction, but wireframes etc. always looked really complicated, so I never looked at them or owt similar. I usually just start drawing and the character either works (pic proceeds) or it doesn't (pic is redrawn), with minor mistakes caught in 'editing', the lining stage on the PC. That's fine as far as it goes, but it makes 'action shots' with lots of movement and energy in them very hard to do, and kills any attempt at consistency (I could never draw a comic, for example;each characters would vary from panel to panel). Still, I'll get round to it eventually, I dare say!

While I'm here, latest pic - it's the set up for a short series of dirty, dirty drawings. Setting is a drab office, and the colourscheme reflects that. Perhaps a little too well, as I certainly find myself underwhelmed by what was a promising pic at the pencil stages.



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Zmithy

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« #209 : 02-20-2011 13:13 »
« : 02-20-2011 13:39 »

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No, I knew the dvds gave good guides to character construction, but wireframes etc. always looked really complicated, so I never looked at them or owt similar.
I started the same way, then moved onto wireframe. It's quite complicated having to "unlearn" everything initially, but it can work well. You're probably right that just freehanding it is better if you're going for a more fluid, lifelike style. I only ever wireframed the heads while drawing for that reason, it felt a little restrictive when applied to the body.

As for the office pic, I would try desaturating the background colours a lot more, I think it would make the office seem more bland and also make Leela stand out against it more. At the moment, the colour temperature is the same across the pic, there's a lot of warm tones both with the green walls and the bright wood desk.

With the theme of the picture being "hot leela in a dull place" having her colours being the warmest in the picture would really emphasize that.

Edit: Quickly went ahead and gave it a spin, just out of curiosity.. looking at it, I think the pen and clipboard would be best left alone for colour:



Another potential issue is the cutoff point at the legs... it kind "boxes" in the picture and adds a horziontal element to a very "vertical" picture. Maybe experiment with removing the desk piece at the front, keeping the desks at the side, and showing more leg instead?

I just remembered that I drew a Leela a few months back, just to see if I still could, I'll scan her in. :)
Marcus
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« #210 : 02-20-2011 13:37 »
« : 02-20-2011 13:45 »

As for styles, why not both? :p Probably better to have your finger in as many pies as possible, if you can...

That wasn't a come-on, sorry...

Re. colours: I hear what you say; this is, I think, the 3rd or 4th attempt at colouration of this one, but I've never tried a straight desaturation of an existing scheme!

(photoshops)



What d'you reckon, any of these? Basic progression from warmest to coolest. I love the idea of desatting, but not 100% on the results. P'haps just seen pic too often to judge :D

edit: yay simultaneous (nearly) posting! Also, get scanning :D
edit-edit: mmm. I think either the middle or last one. I'll have to have a play with this with the others in the  series. Thank you for this, this was a very good idea!
edit3: re legs - nah, desk is hiding L's poorly drawn legs, I'm afraid! Needed a quick cheat ;)
Zmithy

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« #211 : 02-20-2011 13:42 »

I think that the coolest one (the 3rd) has it nailed. Looks like she's under florescent lighting, the fact that the blue window is still bright gives it a nice "oppressive glare". Also I edited more stuff into the post above, I can never leave a post alone. :P
Marcus
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« #212 : 02-20-2011 13:49 »

I'm the same! Always tinkering... Will need to start using a 'preview' pane...

Anyway, yeah, legs! Absolutely don't disagree, more leg'd work better, but as I say, desk interrupts for a reason, unfortunately.

And yes, 3rd one is growing on me too! Window - outside world - is bright and clear, as is Leela and her non-regulation pen, while the rest is rather drab and awful. This could really work!
Zmithy

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« #213 : 02-20-2011 13:56 »
« : 02-20-2011 14:01 »

And yes, 3rd one is growing on me too! Window - outside world - is bright and clear, as is Leela and her non-regulation pen, while the rest is rather drab and awful. This could really work!

Ah, it's a window to the outside.. in that case that works even better. Good luck with the rest of the image set! :)

Here's my scan, I'm a little rusty, the arms are ridiculous:



Looks pretty good if I scroll down and cut the pic off just above her waist though.
Marcus
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« #214 : 02-20-2011 14:10 »
« : 02-20-2011 14:11 »

Yay for smiley zmithy Leela! (checks out butt) If that's 'just' a rust-pic, it ain't at all bad - very fond of L's left (far) arm, angled out away from her and hand resting on hip. That's not easy to pull off at this angle (or at least not for me). I may have to steal the style.

I'm smiling because over the years I must've drawn... 40 or 50 fairly simply posed Leelas and Amys like this one and left them at the pencil stage, drawn _just_ because I hadn't done any futurama stuff in a while and wanted to see if I still could! A relief to see that I'm not the only one who does this :) I usually find the head, upper torso, and upper arms go fine, then it all gets a bit harder... (edit: lol - judging by your edit, you obviously have similar thoughts!)
Zmithy

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« #215 : 02-20-2011 14:17 »
« : 02-20-2011 14:19 »

Yeah, the left arm isn't too bad, if I did something different with the other arm and/or maybe angled her hips a little to make the pic a bit more playful it could work.

Casual, neutral poses are quite tricky, it's hard to give them enough subtle expressions and slight quirks of pose to make them not look boring.
Marcus
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« #216 : 02-20-2011 14:35 »

I always find it a trade off between 'interesting pic' and 'oh-god-I've-forgotten-how-to-draw, let's keep it simple' :p The second factor usually outweighs the first until I've had a good few trial pics in a row!

If this particular pic was being taken forward, you could do an awful lot with just a b/g or 'accessory/alteration', something unusual and wow-worthy that L is obviously totally oblivious to, and boom - the welldone neutral repose-pose is now the selling point of the pic. Me, I'd make the twist something filthy, but I appreciate that's not everyone's cup of tea!
El-Man

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« #217 : 02-20-2011 22:56 »

Nice, Zmithy. How come we don't see more art from you?

The arms do look okay, they just need to be a little longer. A good tool for figuring out things like that is a mirror. See how long your arms reach, and adjust from there. And hands are always tricky, aren't they?

One last thing, I'd separate the lines of her left arm and left breast, it will define them both better.
SpaceMaN

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« #218 : 02-22-2011 01:48 »

Question:  Is this thread just for futurama art, or can i post a few of my paintings in here too?
Tedward

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« #219 : 02-22-2011 02:07 »
« : 02-22-2011 02:09 »

Despite being in the on-topic section, posting general artwork seems to be perfectly acceptable here (and I hope it stays that way). :)
tyraniak

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« #220 : 02-22-2011 05:27 »

most of the art I pst is non-Futurama, most of the Futurama art posted here is so much better than anything I ca do, but here's my crack at it

SpaceMaN

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« #221 : 02-22-2011 05:51 »

I really enjoy everyone's art here, there is some really good stuff.

Mine's just...



...not drawings, or people, or really anything conclusive, for that matter.
El-Man

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« #222 : 02-22-2011 06:37 »

Soooooo..... what are you trying to say with this piece, SpaceMaN?
Free Hot Meal

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« #223 : 02-22-2011 06:58 »

Very nice SpaceMaN!  I'll take 8!
SpaceMaN

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« #224 : 02-22-2011 07:16 »

That, actually, is my first attempt at painting, ever.  It was done back in July, and I've done about 15 since, mostly the same abstract style but a few with other ideas.

I can't really recall what I may have been trying to convey in that one.  I do remember drinking a bit and smoking a bit and jamming music quite loudly.  I named it "Soutere"  (like "it's out there" but with the intoxicated effect.)

Seems to be a good formula, I was prolific for a few months there.
SpaceCase

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« #225 : 02-22-2011 16:18 »

... I can't really recall what I may have been trying to convey in that one...

SpaceMaN, 'yer Jackson-frakking-Pollock!
At least your dropcloth painting :D puts me in mind of some of his later  works.

I'll just... ooze... back out under the gallery door now...

kgalemma

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« #226 : 02-22-2011 22:36 »
« : 02-22-2011 22:38 »

attempt at drawing a horse i ride called rocky
lemily33

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« #227 : 02-22-2011 23:32 »

attempt at drawing a horse i ride called rocky


Belgian? He's cute! If I can nitpick, the tongue looks a little strange - horses don't have quite that deep a line in the middle, and it's a funny angle. But the head shape and the nostrils look especially good.
kgalemma

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« #228 : 02-22-2011 23:40 »

Hes a clydesdale x appaloosa. Yeah i tried rubbed out tried again so many times with that tongue just couldnt get it right.
Thanks trying to improve with shading and fur
lemily33

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« #229 : 02-23-2011 00:01 »

Aw, cute! I love appies.
kgalemma

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« #230 : 02-23-2011 00:19 »
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Pic i did for my nan and grandad when there dog passed away. crap quality camera
kgalemma

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« #231 : 02-23-2011 00:21 »


charcoal picture of me and my b/f that i did a while back
winna

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« #232 : 02-23-2011 00:26 »

I actually liked the horse tongue.  And I wouldn't say your style is perfectly anatomically correct, but it's rather close, and the things that are off are only so slightly... and they add character and depth to the images.  All done in pencil?  It looks neat regardless. :)
kgalemma

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« #233 : 02-23-2011 00:29 »

thanks. and yes all in pencil and only one kind of pencil never really tried using different soft / hard pencils etc.
i do need a lot of improvement but im working on it. =]
tyraniak

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« #234 : 02-23-2011 04:56 »

nice job on the dog and horse pictures
kgalemma

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« #235 : 02-23-2011 23:06 »


Crap quality and only really an outline but jesus zoidberg was too cool not to try
Morgan_G19

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« #236 : 02-24-2011 05:29 »

:)

I like your stuff, kgalemma. I agree with winna on your human anatomy proportion but practise more and you'll get the hang of it.

Remember kids, construction lines are very important
beck

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« #237 : 02-24-2011 19:18 »

Hi guys
Nice pics, kgalemma. The one with humans looks like an old photo

And i hope it's ok to post it here, though it isn't my own art, but how do you like this nice little tribute to B.B.Rodrigues from far-off and cold Russia?  :)

http://bobablog.ru/?p=144#more-144
kgalemma

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« #238 : 02-24-2011 20:08 »

Thanks i took a photo of it when it was in a photo frame so had a bit of a shine to it.

Love the bender on the wall =]
kgalemma

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« #239 : 02-24-2011 20:11 »


Tiger lullaby reference from devient art. Charcoal A4 was my first attempt at trying to draw fur not brillient but best tiger i've done so far.
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