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sick pickles

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« Reply #320 on: 04-09-2008 22:14 »

 
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either you love it or you want to murder the developers.
yeah?
the gimp was the first program i ever really successfully used (after smashing up my crash-prone ps5 that came with my tablet..), so i suppose i wouldn't really know what it's like in comparison. it seems fairly easy to use to me, but i'm no expert either.  :rolleyes:
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« Reply #321 on: 04-10-2008 14:59 »

I dun a pic:



I _nearly_ dun a whole little series of pics on an extended idea, but it was proving grottily  awful to try to do it. Basic premise was Leela going to Amy's Yoga night... finding out 'yoga' was an acronym... finding out the acronym was 'Young Oily Gullible Amateurs'' Night down at the strip club.

Anyway, as ever, comments, letterbombs, opinions always welcome  :)
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« Reply #322 on: 04-10-2008 15:11 »

by way of appendix:

I did have a lot of goes at doing the next/concluding pic in the series, where an angry/embarassed Leela drags a surprised Amy off the stage. I dunno, maybe 0.07 people might be interested for 0.0035 moments in the drafting process - this forum (and this thread in particular) shows an awful lot of high quality, jaw-droppingly good finished pics or completed sketches... uh, so I guess I thought we need to see more crummy w.i.ps and failed drafts...!

No, I thought it might be of momentary diversion for someone to see a bit of the pic-making that doesn't usually get posted, so... ignore at will:





Nurse Leela had nothing to do with the series as such, I was just feeling really frustrated about the lack of progress by that point  :D
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« Reply #323 on: 04-10-2008 15:49 »

I do quite like the last one...  :)
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« Reply #324 on: 04-10-2008 16:02 »

It's a shame that the series didn't quite come to fruition, but it's nice to see the WIPs.

As for Nurse Leela: YIKES! Canyon nipples! You could hold the Super Bowl or a FA Cup final in there!
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« Reply #325 on: 04-10-2008 16:11 »

Thanks for the frame by frame work in progress... that is interesting to see how it might have looked.  Maybe we will see the whole story here in the future?  Pleeez?
sick pickles

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« Reply #326 on: 04-10-2008 16:17 »

 
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I dun a pic:
methinks amy must have a memory-foam butt..  ;)
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« Reply #327 on: 04-10-2008 17:47 »
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Great work Marcus.   :D

I bet you had a good time drawing Nurse Leela's breasts in the pic that they not only defy gravity, they're large enough for Fry to find shelter from rain.   :laff:

BTW, Nurse Leela could take my temperature anytime.

The color pic:  I can hear the exasperated and defeated tone of voice as Leela mutters, "Oh, lord."   ;)
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« Reply #328 on: 04-10-2008 18:13 »

Nurse Leela - inspired by a true story (apparently) of one man and his toothache, his one moment of relief the biggitity of his dentist's boobs... I might redo that one! And yeah, it is totally OTT (actually found it quite hard to draw obviously distorted anatomy - you can see bits of it were cheated), but sometimes you need to mess around with a pic rather than do it all po-faced  :D

Glad folk quite liked idea of w.i.ps - I've never done so many different versions of a pic that didn't come out (this is just a few!). Last one is the best, but the proportions are all to hell, Amy's face is terrible, and the angle isn't easy to background. Other than that...  ;)

Colour pic owes much to Archonix for the "effects" - gym wall's a projection, so it shines off Fry's heads when he gets too close, the light shines off Amy as she's oily, etc. Where it doesn't work, it's my inexperience in doing stuff like that.

@ pickles - do you... do you know where I can _get_ some memory foam...? I'd like about a 6 foot tube and some carving instructions...  :p
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« Reply #329 on: 04-10-2008 19:07 »
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Originally posted by Marcus:
I'd like about a 6 foot tube and some carving instructions...
for reasons of legality, i think i'll not answer that.   :p

i want to play the picture game too!



oh, i forgot to mention.. i really like the window effect on fry in that first picture.  :)
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« Reply #330 on: 04-10-2008 19:09 »

People, I can say this:  Marcus was one of the first Futurama artist that I met.  He's his own worst enemy and harshest critic - a lot of the stuff he claims to be worthless or sub-par is actually very ingenuous, fresh and original.

So, to you, my good friend, thanks for sharing.  Even if these pics don't go any further, you've made my day by posting them for the rest of us to see.

But Nurse Leela, Over The Top isn't the word!  As you can tell, I love them, I mean, it (the pic).  :flirt:
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« Reply #331 on: 04-10-2008 19:32 »

Neato picture sick pickles, I really like the coloring choices.  :)
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« Reply #332 on: 04-10-2008 19:37 »

Wow! I should come by here more often!  :)

It's all good, and Java's pic teh awesome. It'd be fascinating to see Futurama drawn in a style like that, even if it was only for a one-off, 'alternate dimension'-type deal.
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« Reply #333 on: 04-10-2008 19:43 »

 
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Neato picture sick pickles, I really like the coloring choices.   :)

On L's eye in particular, yeah; and shading of the hair works really well, I thought. Highly good-looking pic all round!

(in other news, Ralph _earns_ his rep.  :) Cheers man  :) )
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« Reply #334 on: 04-10-2008 22:28 »

like the latest works by marcus and sick pickles
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« Reply #335 on: 04-10-2008 23:34 »

Marcus, your stuff is great!  I LOVE the work in progress.  All good artists are critical of their own work, but from my perspective you are doing some REALLY AMAZING STUFF!  It reminds me of the storyboards for an animated movie- that is why I hope you will keep us updated and keep adding to that YOGA project.

@Sick pickles- BEAUTIFUL Leela picture.  I like seeing those images where she has her hair loose and is more in touch with soft female side that she likes to hide.  I do hope I can see more of your art!

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« Reply #336 on: 04-11-2008 00:36 »

@Marcus - I like the last WIP as well. You can see both their faces, and what they're doing. I also don't see anything that's not fixable, either...   :)
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« Reply #337 on: 04-11-2008 01:08 »
« Last Edit on: 04-11-2008 01:08 »

Here is, at least according to my colleagues at work in the break room (who hate sci fi and fantasy), an image of James Dean doing the strip in "Rebel Without a Cause" on some rather unconventional transportation.  I would rather think, "A Bicyclops Built For Two" but since I am the nerd in my company, they would not get that reference, so here is a cute but nerdy James Dean doing the strip with a rather unusual ride.

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« Reply #338 on: 04-11-2008 01:16 »
« Last Edit on: 04-11-2008 01:16 »

@ FordMustang:

Your artwork is enjoyable.  I can't give advice since I have no artistic ability what-so-ever, but when Coldangel first appeared here at PEEL, he had stuff that had potential.  I don't how much he feels that Marcus helped him, but I do know that Marcus gave him a few tips and took him under his wing for a short time.

Also, El-Man has an eye for art.  He sees things that are correctable flaws that can change a pic from being passable to being fantastic.

I also took a tour through Sick Pickles DeviantArt page.  She has some good stuff there.  She's getting the basics of drawing the characters, now she can start adding some background items to give the illusion of size, proportion and ratio.

Damned, I've been cyber-hanging around El-Man too much...
sick pickles

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« Reply #339 on: 04-11-2008 02:20 »

fordmustang - oh, how i do admire your nerve to jump right into backgrounds. cheers to you.. i do so hate the things.  :)
and fry looks tubby! yay!  :D
also, thanks for the raving lovely compliment.  :)
ralph - ahh.. thanks for checking my gallery out. though lately, my da page looks a bit shabby, it seems to me..
however, i just finished painting something that, even in MY critical opinion, totally does not suck. i'm not going to post it here, but you can have a look if you're so inclined..
 http://capsize-beautiful.deviantart.com/art/penguin-82495323
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« Reply #340 on: 04-11-2008 02:22 »
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Hello, Ralph Snart. 

I have a great respect for your opinions, so thank you very much for your advice. It is a great honor coming from you.    I appreciate it a lot.   I hope the artists you mention do give me some advice. I got bad grades in art class in school so I gave up on art as a major- though one of my gripes in junior high school art classes is that my colleagues who used tracing paper on Disney coloring books  got A's and when I drew from the nature and imagination I got D's and lower so that killed my wish to go further.  I just have concluded that I have no real skill  I just draw for fun...

I  am in awe of the people on this site who can duplicate the Matt Groening drawings because I cannot do it!  All hail to those of you who can! 

  I really, really want (MADLY DESIRE) to do on-line comics (but not for profit but for therapy and sharing my travel experiences)  and to color with computer technology (though I love color pencils and water colors)  but I do not know where to begin.  I am crippled (???) by being a southpaw with a MAC laptop  with no mouse function and not a lot of experience.    I have to get some  contraption that will let me e-color with a mouse and be able to use my left hand, hence why I use my pencils now. I keep thinking that being left handed will hurt me since the graphics functions I use at work require me to  draw and color with my right hand, which is not my natural hand.    I also have a firm vow that I only want to use my personal computer for my art, and never my work computer which is another reason I use the pencils- plus I still secretly want to honor the old artist methods- If I could combine pencils and watercolors with computer art I would be a very happy middle-aged lady. 

And @ Sickpickles... thanks for your divine reply.   Your artwork is just heavenly so that you could take the time to say something nice about my stuff is a really nice treat!  Thank you!  I want to be you when I grow up!    ;)  Yup, backgrounds are my weakness... I think it comes from my career as a travel package planner and my training as an ecotourism planner.  We are trained to think always of the culture and background of all places we sell.   It is a big reason why I love Futurama.  The background artists who draw places like TriSol and the Cyclops Planet and the Godfellas Hubble telescope images and the fantasy planets in "The Sting" are amazing people.  They make the worlds come alive for me.  The artists did not have to get that detailed, but they chose to do so, so I love them for that.  And yes, Fry is chunky with a broken nose. You can't deny that.   But that does by no means say he is a weak guy. I LOVE it in Futurama that he does prove how strong he is in spite of what people think based on his physical appearance.  "Godfellas" is a great example of that.  I love that quote about hoping even more when people say things are hopeless... 

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« Reply #341 on: 04-11-2008 02:41 »

 
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I just have concluded that I have no real skill
skill? peh. skill comes from working your arse off and then smashing your head against a wall (maybe a pillow), cause it sucks, and then working your arse off some more. so really, it's not skill you need, it's a strong stubborn nature and probably a bit of masochism.  ;)
so unless the headsmashing doesn't appeal to you.. keep trying!  :)
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« Reply #342 on: 04-11-2008 02:50 »

You can similate color pencils and watercolors with certain programs if you have an eye on how the texture should look in those mediums.

As for the south paw type thing... admittedly I don't art very often, but I have learned to draw on computers using my right hand... I sometimes switch and use my left hand with the right handed mouse too.  I find it's a little easier to use the weak hand with computers because I can always erase the mistake and try again... usually if I'm working on a piece or a project, I'll spend hours at a time and be zoned out enough that I don't notice which hand I'm using anyways...  it's fairly relaxing.

FordMustang, your style is more original than just duplicating the characters in the Groening style (not that there's anything wrong with that either); I wouldn't be too disappointed that you can't freehand out that particular style though.  You also seem to have a good eye for scenery and an overall picture.  That makes things seem much more complete.  I also like the traditional style of the medium.  Kudos.  :)
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« Reply #343 on: 04-11-2008 03:17 »

@ Ford Mustang:

I know nothing about Macs, but can your remap the functions of the mouse?  My wife is a lefty (hand-wise, not politically) and I remapped her mouse to work with her, however her computer is a E-Machines PC.

Thanks for the compliments - call me the Patron Saint of On-Topic if you desire.  :)

As for drawing the Groening style - I often find other styles more pleasing to my eye.  Coldangel's for example, is a form I find very easy on my eyes.
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« Reply #344 on: 04-11-2008 03:18 »
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@ Winna

Thanks for your kind words on my style... I don't think I could ever do Mr. Groening's style justice so I have to match it as close as I can with my own.  And thanks for the advice.  It is refreshing to hear  other lefties face the same challenges- hopefully, as you write, the right hand will be able to compensate. 

Thanks for the support! 

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« Reply #345 on: 04-11-2008 08:11 »

I'm not awake enough to read all that crap up there, but that sure is a nifty doodle, Fordy. Do more.  :)
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« Reply #346 on: 04-11-2008 08:22 »

@Marcus

Shiney cap'n real shiney.

Or in regular speech, very nice pic. I like the concept and the characters are well realised.

One minor thing and that is the window. Parts of the sign appear to be infront of Fry's hair (like his first spike) and the another part seems to be behind (his second spike).

Do like the WIP's, nice to see the thought processes going on. As for the nurse pic, I am curious if some inspiratoon was not taken from another artist (not going to say the site or the artist's name as there a underage people present so let's just say The F**R)

@Sick Pickles

Very nice. I like the effect you have done with the hair. Doing psudo realistic Leela's hair is troublesome and I think you have found a nice soloution.

@FordMustang

Always nice to see non Groening style interpritations of the characters and kudos on the background (Personally I hate doing backgrounds).

Now as personal choice for colouring I use the program Open Canvas. It gives some nice paint effects and the ablity to rotate the canvas on the fly is a god send. I think GIMP might also be a good place to look since it has a definite upside to most other programs that it is completely free.
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« Reply #347 on: 04-11-2008 08:32 »

 
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The F**R

Eugh! He scares me...
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« Reply #348 on: 04-11-2008 09:38 »

Indeed so, he is just like Ronseal wood stain.
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« Reply #349 on: 04-11-2008 09:52 »

 
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fordmustang - oh, how i do admire your nerve to jump right into backgrounds. cheers to you.. i do so hate the things.   :)
and fry looks tubby! yay!   :D
also, thanks for the raving lovely compliment.   :)
ralph - ahh.. thanks for checking my gallery out. though lately, my da page looks a bit shabby, it seems to me..
however, i just finished painting something that, even in MY critical opinion, totally does not suck. i'm not going to post it here, but you can have a look if you're so inclined..
 http://capsize-beautiful.deviantart.com/art/penguin-82495323

Just took a peek. You're right, it completely lacks any form of suck whatsoever. In other words that's ruddy awesome.  :D

Also you're kinda cute...
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« Reply #350 on: 04-11-2008 14:37 »
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Or in regular speech, very nice pic. I like the concept and the characters are well realised.

One minor thing and that is the window. Parts of the sign appear to be infront of Fry's hair (like his first spike) and the another part seems to be behind (his second spike).

Cheers man! And good to see you again   :) Sign - Arrgh, I see what you say... yeah, the idea was the wall/window are just being projected, so you'd see it on Fry. It's just a copy of the window, paste as new layer, faded, and _raised_ so that you see the windowsill/part of writing on Fry. But I raised it too much, so I missed the top of Fry's second hair spike, which makes it look a bit weird... Ah well, I'll know for next time!

 
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Do like the WIP's, nice to see the thought processes going on. As for the nurse pic, I am curious if some inspiratoon was not taken from another artist (not going to say the site or the artist's name as there a underage people present so let's just say The F**R)

TF - damaging calm on your intertubes...   :laff: I see what you mean, but actually I was thinking of Nev's work (remember him?) when I drew it; TF's style is a bit too removed from groeningism to easily work it into my pics, but Nev's a nice fit. Nice as a change of pace.

@ El - very kind of you to say, thanks   :) Was a constant balancing act between trying to get some _movement_ into the drawing, at a drawable angle, and being able to suggest emotions/thought processes; last pic is the best mixture (and gave the opportunity for designing gym gear for Amy!). I think it's a bit too far off-course to correct, but _highly_ chuffed you think it's at least salvagable!    :)
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« Reply #351 on: 04-11-2008 14:59 »

Who's "THE F**R" and what's he notorious for?

Sorry to play the noob card again. :\
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« Reply #352 on: 04-11-2008 15:25 »

This was a lunchroom drawing I did some while back of James Dean and that one eyed chick from the X-Men (according to my coworkers). 



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« Reply #353 on: 04-11-2008 15:38 »

I can't find the words I need to describe your style, Fordy, but I really like it.

Seems like some bad stuff's about to go down. What are they about to do? Torch a restaurant?
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« Reply #354 on: 04-11-2008 15:53 »

Oh, gee, thanks for the nice words!  Takk fyrir!  I kind of saw them as doing one of those last stand thingamabob threat things, but torching a restaurant sounds like a good idea, too (a few come to mind).  Or trying to get through rush hour sidewalk traffic in Washington DC?
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« Reply #355 on: 04-11-2008 16:27 »

 
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Oh, gee, thanks for the nice words!  Takk fyrir!  I kind of saw them as doing one of those last stand thingamabob threat things, but torching a restaurant sounds like a good idea, too (a few come to mind).  Or trying to get through rush hour sidewalk traffic in Washington DC?

Or getting anywhere anytime at all in DC.

"WHEN WE GONNA TORCH THE RESTAURANT? SING IT!"
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« Reply #356 on: 04-11-2008 17:02 »
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Who's "THE F**R" and what's he notorious for?

Sorry to play the noob card again. :\

Check your FM:TLZ pm inbox  :)
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« Reply #357 on: 04-11-2008 18:24 »

Hey Marcus, you can share the F**R info with me also.
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« Reply #358 on: 04-11-2008 19:01 »

Oh you probably don't want to see it...
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« Reply #359 on: 04-11-2008 20:13 »

 
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  Check your FM:TLZ pm inbox   :)

Holy crap.  :eek:

By the way, I totally approve of the term "penii".   :laff:
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