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« Reply #320 on: 06-24-2005 19:54 »

American Dad definitely has similarities with Family guy, though it's not too similar in my opinion. I don't know if they ripped off the Simpsons, but they probably were inspired by it in some ways, just as the Simpsons got inspiration from other shows.
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« Reply #321 on: 06-24-2005 23:24 »

American Dad is a carbon copy of Family Guy. The backrounds in house may be a little altered, but the dining room table is the exact same from the one angle that's sort of a long view. Plus, the dad is stupid, once again, like in all other family cartoons on Fox. The pet likes the wife. The pet talks. The son doesn't have many friends. The daughter tries to seperate herself from her parents. It's pretty much an exact copy of Family Guy.
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« Reply #322 on: 07-09-2005 13:40 »

Season two will begin on Sunday, September 11th. Season one was very short - only seven episodes, like the first season of Family Guy.
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« Reply #323 on: 07-09-2005 16:38 »

On the [AS] Saturday nights thing, I think that the only reason why they put Futurama on that slot was because [AS] was getting lower ratings so they put in a comedy. Why they kicked Futurama off on Thursday hell knows. But I don't really like that they're playing different episodes on Saturday then the rest of the week.

Anyway back to the subject. American Dad in my opinion is not a rip-off of Family Guy. Just the setting, I mean look at the house. It's like if the Griffins made renivations to their home. The show could be better all and all but it does suck. They lost me with the pilot but the episode with Stan thinking his neighbors were terrorist was the icing on the cake. Who would want to watch some dumbass think that all his neighbors were against him. It's so polical. Although I thought that the electrical take off thing was sort of funny.

Bad show. Bad American Dad. Hope you get what's coming to you in the end. Also, HomerJBrannigan said that the new season was starting 9/11, what does that tell me? Or anyone?
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« Reply #324 on: 07-09-2005 17:20 »
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Obviously it's a conspiracy. They're trying to match up against NBC's Sunday Night Football so they put on an "american" show in American Dad. They're trying to make the audience watch an "american" show on 9/11 to show that they care.

But it doesn't matter. First, quarter of the audience won't watch because they're democrats, a third party, or independent. Another quarter won't watch because of football. Finally, another quarter won't watch because they hate the show. Therefore, even with their plan, they're still going to get the same ratings they'd get any other night against Sunday Night Football, which will be worse than any night in the first season because it's football...and because NBC will have John Madden commentating their Sunday Night Football games.
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« Reply #325 on: 07-09-2005 20:01 »

the whole show is about making fun of the conservitive dad and how close minded they are. (I dont like conservtives very much) so half the public wont get the show, I like it.
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« Reply #326 on: 07-09-2005 23:50 »

Damn, I was hoping that since 'American Dad' hasn't aired for a few weeks, that it got cancelled. I'm disappointed.
Does anyone know what their ratings were? (Low, I hope.)
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« Reply #327 on: 07-10-2005 00:04 »

I know that they never make the Entertainment Weekly top 25. But since you asked, I shall go and use my resources, weee!
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« Reply #328 on: 07-10-2005 03:20 »

The May 1st airing got a 4.7, May 8th a 3.7, May 15th a 3.6, June 5th a 3.0, June 12th a 3.3, June 19th a 3.3, and June 26th a 3.2.
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« Reply #329 on: 07-10-2005 16:22 »

Wanna bet that when AD comes back, it comes back at 7PM Sundays?
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« Reply #330 on: 07-10-2005 16:57 »

Second.

I looked at those ratings, then the ratings on cable. Some of the cable ratings were alot better than AmD's. In short, AmD's ratings suck. The only ratings worse were on the WB, but that's normal with every show, even Pauly Shore's sitcom.
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« Reply #331 on: 07-10-2005 18:57 »

American Dad...worst...cartoon...ever. ..if you're gonna air a show by the same creator as another cartoon, why don't you make it a good one? *cough* Futurama *cough*

heh speaking of timeslots, anyone see where MITM is going? it wont even be on Sunday anymore in the fall, itll be on at 8:30 on Fridays. you could tell that show was winding down anyways, oh well, it had a good run

and actually, I just looked it up again, American Dad will have the same timeslot in the fall as it does now at 9:30 pm

not to link you to an evil fox site, but here's the 2005 fall schedule:
 http://www.fox.com/schedule/schedule_fall.htm
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« Reply #332 on: 07-10-2005 20:05 »

wow i didnt know people watched american dad i hope theres no new season. If fox isnt going to do new episodes of futurama they should re-run old ones instead of AmD
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« Reply #333 on: 07-10-2005 20:11 »

MITM had a good run but I never have like it. I mean they're all so unnaturally mean to each other. The Bundy's have a more functional family.

And yes Futurefreak, I totally agree.
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« Reply #334 on: 07-10-2005 20:13 »

7PM / 6C -Animation Encores

Wonder what they might air there...or at 8:30 later in the same season when The War at Home gets cancelled...
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« Reply #335 on: 07-10-2005 21:17 »

yeah, isn't the war at home just an MITM spinoff?

i have no idea what animation encores is, if it's just a rerun of one of their animated shows it's a waste of a timeslot
Kryten

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« Reply #336 on: 07-11-2005 00:33 »

I kinda like AD. It has more of a satirical edge than FG, whose jokes all revolve around 80s pop culture.
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« Reply #337 on: 07-11-2005 04:34 »

the show would be great...without the politics (haha - subtle joke)

i'm not a fan of FG either. it seems like most episodes revolve around crude humor like fart jokes. as said in the commentaries, futurama had more layers than an onion, and thats what made it so good  :D
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« Reply #338 on: 07-11-2005 17:55 »

^And that was why it went down the drain. The majority of people don't want a good cartoon. They want something that they can easily laugh at, and not have to think hard about. (I believe some other poster said something like this in another thread, but I forgot who, and I forgot what thread.)
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« Reply #339 on: 07-11-2005 21:54 »

I like both shows for different reasons. Futurama is better to appreciate, though, and episodes can be re-watched MANY times, whereas Family Guy is a good sit-back-and-laugh-your-ass-off show, where episodes are good the first 2 or 3 times you watch them, then quickly lose their affect. Obviously, I like Futurama more, but Family Guy is hilarious, and still beats most of the crap on TV.

As for American Dad, I've seen every episode of Season 1 now apart from the last one. So far, there have been some good episodes, but the show's been less-than-consistent. I just don't think the political jokes work for it - the satire is weak, tries too hard and just isn't edgy or funny enough. Plus, episodes are made months before they air - resulting in dated satire, too. Thanks, American Dad, but if I want decent political & social satire in cartoons, I'll stick to South Park.

However, the show DOES have merits of its own. The characters CAN be good when played the right way, and there are plenty of good non-political jokes in the show to make an episode funny. You have to remember that one season is not long enough for any show to reach its full potential (perhaps Arrested Development excluded, there) and even Family Guy's first season sucked balls in comparison to Seasons 2-4. So, I think the show needs a bit of time before it truly finds itself. Until then, I'm not going to stop watching it, but I do hope that it improves. It's definitely got the potential to do so.
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« Reply #340 on: 07-11-2005 23:12 »

I have to say that the Karl Rove jokes in the last episode had me ROTFLOL.

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« Reply #341 on: 07-11-2005 23:54 »

I agree with Beamer that American Dad needs more time to find its self, as most shows do. I really don't mind the political jokes myself, though if it gets too one sided it lessens the effect. I personally like to make fun of all sides as all sides have plenty to laugh at.
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« Reply #342 on: 07-12-2005 00:09 »

Your points are true, but we're talking about Fox. The channel that has kept on The Simpsons for almost two decades because it's their only show and has cancelled about 1,000 since The Simpsons debuted. They're the channel that's average show doesn't last a season. I don't think that American Dad will get the time to make itself into a consistently funny show. Personally, I don't like it too much, but I'd rather it have another season to see what happens and I'd rather it be on than The Simple Life.
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« Reply #343 on: 07-12-2005 02:31 »

Unfortunately you’re correct about the average length of one of Fox's new show. Already this year their have been countless show canceled, most of which looked or were bad. I wonder how long next fall until Fox changes American Dads time slot, or starts preempting it. With the World Series I never know when the new shows start anyway.

It annoyed me when they started randomly airing Futurama (I'm not comparing it to AD), even after I heard it was canceled. The Simpsons often airs two new episodes a night and I can barely stand to sit through one new episode. The end effect is that I watch almost nothing on Fox, not that I should.
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« Reply #344 on: 07-12-2005 02:49 »
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I saw the first episode of American Dad and was unimpressed. I haven't watched it since then (yay - Desperate Housewives on at 9pm!) but I did catch one the other week. I think I am generally easygoing when it comes to jokes, but some of them were just offensive. I don't mean politically either. I forgot what they were talking about...but it was the episode with the dad boxing at the end or something. I would think that FOX would be getting numerous complaints about the show's slanders on various ethnic groups. I remember this one preview for another episode of the show that they kept reairing...calling Mexico "God's blind spot"...it wouldn't be so weird if they hadn't kept reairing that same clip over and over on the station during the commercials of other shows

I gave the show a try...it just isn't my cup of tea.

speaking of "blind spots" though...how can FOX premiere these half-hour sitcoms when the average viewer at home can tell from the previews that it won't make it? I mean seriously...did anyone thingk Quintuplets or Hot Dog on a Stick would come back for another season? the only reason "Stacked" is coming back is because of FOX's unofficial motto: "sex sells"

edit: p.s., some of you might bring up that "hecho in mexico" comment made by Bender in Futurama and question its offensive nature, well, truth is mexico makes some shoddy merchandise    :D  and shame of you for badmouthing futurama!
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« Reply #345 on: 07-12-2005 15:30 »

people are so busy complaning that AD is a copy of FG that they miss the point, AD is the most offensive show on tv. they called a churo a "flithy wetback donut" they said (about abortion) "were republicans, and the only way we don't like killing things is that way" I watch it just to see what they get away with next. and seriously, what else is on at 9:30 on sunday?
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« Reply #346 on: 07-12-2005 21:37 »

American Dad the most offensive show on TV? I assume you're leaving out cable shows there...

Anyway, American Dad does have some pretty offensive stuff, but you just have to look at the source. The characters are morons with no tolerance or understanding of other cultures. I think that if one of the smart characters said something offensive, THEN you'd have a reason to get offended, but when characters like Stan, that racist old lady or the idiots at the CIA say intolerant things, you really don't have anything to complain about. The joke isn't what they're saying, it's the fact that they're stupid enough to think it.
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« Reply #347 on: 07-12-2005 23:40 »

Most episodes of this show are good.
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« Reply #348 on: 07-13-2005 00:49 »

I thought that Pilot, Stan Knows Best, Francine's Flashback and Roger Codger were good. Threat Levels sucked, Homeland Insecurity was fairly average, and I've still yet to see Deacon Stan, Jesus Man.

But, compare it with Family Guy's first season. I Never Met The Dead Man and Chitty Chitty Death Bang were good, Death Has a Shadow, Mind Over Murder and Brian: Portait of a Dog were fairly average, and The Son Also Rises and A Hero Sits Next Door sucked monkey balls.

I hate comparing shows, but hey - they're by the same creator and they both had 7 episodes in their first broadcast season, and American Dad's first season was far better than Family Guy's. So, at the end of the day, American Dad might not be brilliant, but it's nowhere near as bad as everyone keeps saying it is, and there's always chances it'll improve.
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« Reply #349 on: 07-13-2005 01:12 »

'Stacked' is coming back? Oh well, it's better than those other shows FOX cancelled. I wonder why they keep wasting money on shows that obviously won't last even two seasons. (I understand that all networks have to create new shows for the future.)

Oh, and an unrelated question. Why did Futurama's first broadcast season get nine episodes? (And why did their first production season get thirteen episodes?) Did American Dad and Family Guy have more than seven episodes for their first production season?
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« Reply #350 on: 07-13-2005 01:55 »
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in regards to cable shows being more offensive, name one. and my point was that anyone with $5.00 bunny-ears and a 5 inch black and white t.v. can watch fox. that's where they get alot of their ratings. BURNNNN!!
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« Reply #351 on: 07-13-2005 13:58 »

Name one. South Park.

I think Futurama got 13 production episodes in its first season because it came from Matt Groening, and Fox can risk it with him. We all know why it only got 9 episodes broadcasted that season. On Family Guy and American Dad, I think the Family Guy 7 episode first season was because it was a new guy for Fox. I'm not sure on American Dad. Fox may have thought it was risky because of its plot or its creator or its characters and wanted to test it with a short first season.
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« Reply #352 on: 07-13-2005 16:33 »

I heard American Dad isn't coming back until September.  Plus, The War At Home is just another endless stream of unfunny family sit-coms about smart-allecky teenagers and clueless parents.  I'll miss out on that. 

Until then, American Dad will be in reruns. 
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« Reply #353 on: 07-13-2005 22:23 »

 
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Originally posted by Eyedol7513:
Oh, and an unrelated question. Why did Futurama's first broadcast season get nine episodes? (And why did their first production season get thirteen episodes?) Did American Dad and Family Guy have more than seven episodes for their first production season?

Shows tend to have very short first seasons, especially nowdays. Don't quite know why, but there you go. Anyway, yes, American Dad had 19 episodes for its first production season, and Family Guy had 15. In Family Guy's case, all the lost Season 1 episodes aired during the second broadcast season, but severely out of order. I assume it'll be the same for American Dad.
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« Reply #354 on: 07-14-2005 00:08 »

Thanks for the answers everyone.
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« Reply #355 on: 07-14-2005 07:24 »
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Why are some people bitching for this show to be cancelled(not necessiarly in theis thread, but on message boards in general)? The show has been getting better, and at least some people do enjoy it. If it were cancelled now, Fox would just put some shitty sitcom that no one enjoys in its place. Why would someone want to put a crap sitcom or Simpsons reruns in place of a decent show? What do people possibly have to gain from its cancelation?

Don't say new Futurama episodes, because as much as I'd like to see it, it ain't happening in the near future.
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« Reply #356 on: 07-14-2005 13:13 »

 
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Why are some people bitching for this show to be cancelled(not necessiarly in theis thread, but on message boards in general)? The show has been getting better, and at least some people do enjoy it. If it were cancelled now, Fox would just put some shitty sitcom that no one enjoys in its place. Why would someone want to put a crap sitcom or Simpsons reruns in place of a decent show? What do people possibly have to gain from its cancelation?

Don't say new Futurama episodes, because as much as I'd like to see it, it ain't happening in the near future.

Actually it'd be the newest wave of reality TV shows some teenage girls will watch, then forget about next week and up getting it cancelled.
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« Reply #357 on: 07-14-2005 22:09 »

Comments like that are pretty fucking dated given reality TV's low popularity at the moment.
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« Reply #358 on: 07-14-2005 22:40 »

Yeah, now shitty sitcoms about middle class families are coming back. You can thank Everyone Loves Raymond for that.
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« Reply #359 on: 07-15-2005 00:58 »

Sitcoms are what we had before Reality TV took over, it's a good start.
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