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Dr. Morberg
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I think that they are being way too overreacting. I understand doing something about delaying live shows that kids could be watching (like the superbowl), but other than that, it should be up to the parents what they let their kids watch. Little kids shouldn't listen to Howard Stern anyway. I think that there are way too many regulations, personally. I think that when it comes down to it, parents should be worrying about what kids watch, not the government.
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Nurdbot
DOOP Secretary
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Indeed, god bless the simple 9 PM Watershed.
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Coop
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I think the FCC's recent crack down is rediculous. I hear that Howard Stern is considering moving to XM radio because of the FCC's regulations. But if he gets out of his contract early, he will be off the air for 2 years to wait out his contract. Leaves him in a bad spot.
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Gorky
DOOP Secretary
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I agree with everything that has been said so far.
First of all, the whole Janet Jackson Superbowl thing. I don't think that it's as horrible as they make it out to be. Sure, it shouldn't have happened, but it's not the worst thing that has ever been shown on network TV. And it isn't like her entire chest was exposed, just a small part of her breast. I'm sure kids have seen things a lot worse than that. I also think that the media replayed the scene about a thousand times (albeit censored), so it was just like a little gift to anyone who hadn't seen it the first time around.
Anyway, the FCC can't censor everything. The shows that we watch have ratings that indicate who should watch them, and it is the parents who ultimately decide if their children should watch it. And I'm sure that their are 10 year olds who watch shows intended for adults, so there you go.
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Tweek
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DOOP Secretary
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Originally posted by Nurdbot: Indeed, god bless the simple 9 PM Watershed. That is only on TV, radio has no watershed as people who complain about swearing on Radio Four before 9pm get told Not that there is a lot.
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Lurrr
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::recalls some hoo-ha about the British press being unable to report about the Prime Minister's alleged homosexuality::
You sure you're in a position to talk about your media being more free? I think you mean Peter Mandelson there. And despite the restrictions, they still managed to get it out on 'Have I got News For You': Ian Hislop: "...because we're still not allowed to say that Peter Mandelson is a home-OWNER!" Paul Merton: "Why, aren't gays allowed to own homes?" Ah, god bless the British lack of respect for authority
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SlaytanicMaggot
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I think it's fucking pathetic. 500,000 dollars per curse word?!?!?!?!? It's bullshit! The FCC is only doing this because most of their high board members, including that shitface Michael Powell, are Republican party campaign money donors and they're thanking them for allowing those new rules that allow enterainment companies to own even more of a percentage of the market...
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EvilLunch
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I think children should be kept away from Justin and Janet's MUSIC, not a nipple or two. Would you rather expose them to tasteless composition and shoddy lyrics or something every child's sucked on at one point?
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Nurdbot
DOOP Secretary
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I blame the Bible Bashing Ronald Reagon Republican Wannabee's. It saves me time because I blame them for everything else that is wrong with the USA.
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sheep555
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« Reply #30 on: 04-13-2004 11:06 »
« Last Edit on: 04-13-2004 11:06 »
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Originally posted by LAN.gnome:You sure you're in a position to talk about your media being more free? Yes. I watched some Red Dwarf yesterday from the late 1980s / early 1990s. These are television shows from fifteen years ago - and there's quite a bit of the old middle finger. And yet when I was in the USA last week every single programme on every channel pixelated out middle fingers. I wasn't quite sure why, but hey. And even when the British press were forced to obey an injunction issued to prevent reporting of Prince Charles's alleged homosexuality, I still heard it mentioned on radio shows (as mentioned above, radio seems to be a lot more free to generally be obscene). Originally posted by Just Chris: So the US government allows for freedom of speech, but only when THEY feel it's appropriate.
True freedom of speech cannot exist in any society with laws. Logically I could argue under the constitution I'm permitted to publish magizines showing child rape. But other laws prohibit me from doing so. Similarly, laws relating indecent material prevent me from distributing porn to schools. Originally posted by Just Chris: Many people also recorded the Super Bowl on Tivo and currently the halftime bit is Tivo's most rewatched event ever. Shows how the FCC is out of touch with the general public.
What the general public wants isn't necessarily the right thing. The vast majority of middle aged males in Britain (40-50) would quite like to see 16 year old teenagers naked. Middle aged males make up a sizable amount of the British population. So does that mean they should get their 16 year old naked girls? Originally posted by bankrupt: Porn is constitutional, but it's not shown on major channels during primetime. As I mentioned above, just because something is constitutional doesn't mean it's legal. It's illegal for under 18s to view pornography. Originally posted by Tweek: That is only on TV, radio has no watershed as people who complain about swearing on Radio Four before 9pm get told Not that there is a lot.
And indeed, a similar incident with British DJ Sara Cox and guest Ali G (I forget exactly what was said, but it was ruder than Stern) resulted in a basic slap on the wrists, and nothing else.
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SlaytanicMaggot
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« Reply #33 on: 04-17-2004 16:55 »
« Last Edit on: 04-17-2004 16:55 »
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click here to read the bill, and click on the image to go sign the petition to prevent this bullshit from passing through Congress' system: ------------------ Please edit your sig to 120 pixel height max. [This message has been edited by Administrator [-mArc-]
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sheep555
Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #34 on: 04-17-2004 17:11 »
« Last Edit on: 04-17-2004 17:11 »
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But that's my point! The 1st amendmant is not to be taken at face value, because if it was I could argue that it was legal for me to publish child porn. Originally posted by Tweek:If they want that they have to get The Sport, I have never read it myself, I read The Telegraph, but I recall a bit a a fuss when a few years ago The Sport had pictures of a large chested fifteen year old and a count down to her sixteenth birthday when they showed her topless. I was teching a play a few weeks ago about a slob, and in one scene he reads the Daily Sport (whilst carrying out something perhaps not suited to discussion here. especially considering the person playing the slob was female) - the actor had to physically read every single page in order to make sure when she opened it she wouldn't burst out laughing - it's a hilarious paper. Going marginally off topic, I was a Guardian reader, but switched to the Independent when they came out in tabloid size.
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