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Shadowstar

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« Reply #240 on: 04-22-2004 18:40 »
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I didn't think it was so bad. It definitely wasn't Season 6 material, but it was still good.

Barney: I've learned I have a gift to share with the world.  From now on, there'll be a new Barnard Gumbel: hardworking, clean, and sober.
Quimby: Congratulations, Barney, and enjoy your grand prize: a lifetime supply of Duff beer.
Barney: Just hook it to my veins!

Oh, and let's not forget "Burns" and "Boo-urns."

"A Star is Burns" is OK material-TOTPD
Woodbot 2.0

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« Reply #241 on: 04-22-2004 19:08 »
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The good thing I got from that one is it got me hooked on The Critic.

Also,if you remember from early season 14,
you may remember this line that bart said in "Bart v.s Lisa v.s the 3rd grade":

bart:"When I get done with that flag it's gonna be a Bart Mangled-Banner.
leelaholic

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« Reply #242 on: 04-22-2004 19:51 »

Yes, I did notice that.

"Learn To Fart"
Gorky

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« Reply #243 on: 04-22-2004 21:26 »

 
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Originally posted by User_names_suck:
Simple Simpson doesn't sound like a good premise but as someone at the NHC pointed out Bart gets an elephant is a bad premise but its still an enjoyable episode.

I think that, of many reviews I have seen at the NHC, most of the people there really didn't care for "Bart Gets an Elephant". They didn't really hate it, but it isn't on their list as a favorite of season 5.

Personally, I find it to be a pretty good episode. It isn't a favorite, but I don't think that it deserves such heavy criticism. I mean, sure the premise was ridiculous (well, maybe not "ridiculous" per se, but it was a very gag-centric episode), but many episodes prior to it had plots that were far from believable as well. I can acknowledge that the ep isn't the most down-to-Earth, but it is funny, in my opinion. I'm sure to some people, it seems like it should be a Scully-era episode, but I don't agree. It wasn't entirely stupid and the characters weren't annoying, jerks, or cliches of their former selves (granted, there is a big difference between season 5 and season 11 and 12).

So, not on my list of favorites, but enjoyable enough.
leelaholic

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« Reply #244 on: 04-22-2004 21:32 »

What about "I, D'oh-Bot"?

Terrible-sounding premise, but a great episode.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #245 on: 04-23-2004 03:10 »

Well, the over the top premise wasn't the only thing that won criticism from fans in regards to "Bart Gets an Elephant".  The characters did suffer a little (espeecially Homer, who seems to be in jerkass mode throughout-ramming into the guy at the end, etc) and felt sort of thin.  Plus it was largely a weak attempt at environmental satire.  Its still an overall good gag episode though, and by and large most NHCers will agree with that.  Its just one of those standard episodes to bring up when it comes to low-end classic era episodes.
Ranadok

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« Reply #246 on: 04-23-2004 13:23 »

Hey, DTB, have you heard back from RMIII about the Ullman shorts yet?
DotheBartman

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« Reply #247 on: 04-23-2004 18:27 »

Finally did, yeah.  However he said I shouldn't post what he said as its sort of hush hush.  He didn't clearly indicate what the hope of the shorts coming to dvd is though, other then that a stand-alone collection of them would be pretty unlikely.
Nurdbot

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« Reply #248 on: 04-24-2004 02:11 »

This talk of a Simpsons movie was utter bollocks, I take it?
DotheBartman

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« Reply #249 on: 04-24-2004 05:57 »

No, its true, its just maybe partially exxagerated.  They are currently working on the script.  What isn't being worked on yet and may not be worked on for a while is the animation, etc.  The movie is in development, just very early development.  And we don't neccasarily know when it will finally release (and neither do the people involved either, I would imagine).
Ranadok

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« Reply #250 on: 04-24-2004 14:10 »
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Originally posted by DotheBartman:
Finally did, yeah.  However he said I shouldn't post what he said as its sort of hush hush.  He didn't clearly indicate what the hope of the shorts coming to dvd is though, other then that a stand-alone collection of them would be pretty unlikely.


Boo. Thanks anyhow.

Moving on: Someone posted this at NHC:
   
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Sunday, May 2 (8:00-8:30 PM ET/PT), Homer fights crime all pie himself in the form of his crime-fighting alter ego, the Pie Man. But when Mr. Burns unmasks him and exposes his secret identity, Homer is blackmailed into tossing a pie at – of all people – the Dalai Lama.

Sunday, May 9 (8:00-8:30 PM ET/PT), Homer reveals that Marge wasn't the first girl he ever kissed on "The Way We Weren't" episode. As he and Marge recount their own versions of their time spent at summer camp, Homer realizes he has caused Marge 30 years of heartache. But they discover something from their past that proves their love was destined.

Sunday, May 16 (8:00-8:30 PM ET/PT), "Bart-Mangled Banner," the Simpsons are thrown in prison after Bart accidentally moons the American flag.

Lisa and Mr. Burns go head-to-head – well, maybe toe-to-toe – on the season finale of THE SIMPSONS (Sunday, May 23, 8:00-8:30 PM ET/PT). Mr. Burns buys up all the media outlets in Springfield in an effort to polish his image, but soon finds himself at odds with Lisa, who starts publishing her own newspaper.

Simple Simpson sounds interesting now, especially considering all the (well timed) uproar here in Canada considering the Dalai Lama's visit. The Way We Weren't sounds like expected, as does Fraudcast News, and my expectations for Bart-Mangled Banner just dropped a significant amount.
leelaholic

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« Reply #251 on: 04-24-2004 14:29 »

Okay, those all sound AWESOME. Especially "The Way We Weren't" and "Simple Simpson"
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« Reply #252 on: 04-24-2004 14:51 »

Eh, I think "Bart-Mangled Banner" sounds pretty bad. "Simple Simpson" will either be good, or suck spectacularly, no middles ground with this one. The other two sound really good.
Lrrr_2004
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« Reply #253 on: 04-24-2004 14:57 »

What's the next episode's name?
User_names_suck
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« Reply #254 on: 04-24-2004 15:19 »

next is 'Catch em if you can' which will probably suck.
by the way according to snpp.com nichelle nichols guests in Simple Simpson.
Zed 85

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« Reply #255 on: 04-24-2004 15:31 »

 
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Homer fights crime all pie himself in the form of his crime-fighting alter ego, the Pie Man. But when Mr. Burns unmasks him and exposes his secret identity, Homer is blackmailed into tossing a pie at – of all people – the Dalai Lama.
Can I be permitted to say "What the fuck!?!"
Lrrr_2004
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« Reply #256 on: 04-24-2004 15:35 »

Wow, the Nichelle Nochols!

Whose the Nichelle Nichols?
newhook_1

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« Reply #257 on: 04-24-2004 15:50 »

The women who will forever be known as "That chick from Star Trek". She was in Fry's segment during AOI 1.
leelaholic

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« Reply #258 on: 04-24-2004 17:27 »
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Originally posted by newhook_1:
The women who will forever be known as "That chick from Star Trek".
??????
 
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She was in Fry's segment during AOI 1.
Oh. Okay.   :D
 
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...all "pie" himself...
*crickets chirp*

Well, the episode sounds good.
Blackadder11

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« Reply #259 on: 04-24-2004 18:20 »

 
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Originally posted by leelaholic:Well, the episode sounds good.

Not really. It just seems like another completely wacky, pointless episode, which usually have the biggest failure rate, apart from a few that are occasionally done well.

Shadowstar

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« Reply #260 on: 04-24-2004 18:59 »
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Originally posted by Zed 85:
Can I be permitted to say "What the fuck!?!"
Yes, yes you can.
Leelaholic, how can you possibly think that episode sounds good? There's a fine line between regular Simpsons wacky and fucked up crazy off-the-wall utterly insane wacky. This episode's plot appears to have crossed it. It's going to take an awful lot to redeem itself. And I don't think even Nichelle Nichols can help.

Oh, also...
 
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Sunday, May 16 (8:00-8:30 PM ET/PT), "Bart-Mangled Banner," the Simpsons are thrown in prison after Bart accidentally moons the American flag.
I recall a certain cartoon lobster doing something similar to a flag and having similar concequences. What was his name, Boidzerg? Eh, it's not important...
DotheBartman

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« Reply #261 on: 04-24-2004 19:44 »

I'm lazy, so I'm mostly just going to post what I posted at the NHC.

I'm honestly shocked at the reaction to the "Bart Mangled Banner" description. Putting the entire family in jail for Bart's behavior does sound pretty harsh on the surface but remeber that it is probably just a satirical exxageration of the very exxagerated and overreactive behaviors in the U.S. in the real life post 9/11 world. Maybe its harder to truly understand it when you're not one of us yanks. But I think it sounds great still, and have high hopes for it. 
As far as its similarity to "A Taste of Freedom", while that is true, frankly I don't really care.  They're just parodying the same thing really.  Complaining about it is like complaining about "A Head in the Polls" because its too similar to "Two Cars on Every Garage, Three Eyes on Every Fish".

Fraudcast News and The Way We Weren't both continue to sound excellent as well.

Simple Simpson continues to sound wierd, but again its probably something where he's pretending to be a super hero as opposed to actually having powers or whatever. The Dalai Lama thing sounds pretty out of the blue, but at least we finally get some Burns goodness. I guess we'll see how it turns out; this looks to be the definitive "wait and see" episode of the season.
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« Reply #262 on: 04-24-2004 22:56 »

To me,I think they are trying to do a parody of Spider-Man in Simple Simpsons.
i mean,did anyone see the preview were Homer (still in coustome)kisses Marge upside down?That is defenately from Spider-Man.

Fraudcast News is very interesting.
Burns hasn't done too much big schemes that much lately.

The Way We Were't is sounding AWESOME!
Also,we have only seen bits and peaces of Homer's kid life and we mostly saw Marge's childhood in Fear of Flying.

I think that Bart Mangled Banner is going to be the mostHORRID,UnAMARICAN,DISGUSTING and FOWL EPISODE OF SEASON 15!!  :mad:
DotheBartman

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« Reply #263 on: 04-24-2004 23:06 »

 
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Originally posted by Woodbot 2.0:

I think that Bart Mangled Banner is going to be the mostHORRID,UnAMARICAN,DISGUSTING and FOWL EPISODE OF SEASON 15!!   :mad:


I'll assume and hope that that's your own satirical exxageration and that you're not serious.

leelaholic

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« Reply #264 on: 04-25-2004 00:58 »

Hold me, I'm sacred.
Nurdbot

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« Reply #265 on: 04-25-2004 01:57 »

*Punches Leelaholic*
Most of them sound bloody shite.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #266 on: 04-25-2004 02:50 »

 
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Originally posted by Nurdbot:
*Punches Leelaholic*
Most of them sound bloody shite.
You hate everything anyway.  I'm not entirely sure why you watch television.

sheep555

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« Reply #267 on: 04-25-2004 05:22 »

 
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Originally posted by leelaholic:
Hold me, I'm sacred.

I might catch cooties  :p
User_names_suck
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« Reply #268 on: 04-25-2004 06:19 »

Its called head lice and its nothing to be ashamed of
 
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I think that Bart Mangled Banner is going to be the mostHORRID,UnAMARICAN,DISGUSTING and FOWL EPISODE OF SEASON 15!!
I know it sounds great.
Actually I'm not too sure it seemed to have great potential but I'm not sure about the whole family being thrown in prison. I'd have thought that it would be a better plot that the media blows the events out of proportion and the Simpsons become ostracised by everyone.
Bushmeister

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« Reply #269 on: 04-25-2004 06:51 »

 
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Originally posted by Zed 85:
 
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Homer fights crime all pie himself in the form of his crime-fighting alter ego, the Pie Man. But when Mr. Burns unmasks him and exposes his secret identity, Homer is blackmailed into tossing a pie at – of all people – the Dalai Lama.
Can I be permitted to say "What the fuck!?!"


Oh my, yes.

leelaholic

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« Reply #270 on: 04-25-2004 13:32 »
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Originally posted by sheep555:
 I might catch cooties    :p
You can't. I'm sacred.

Edit: Also, I was thinking about "Bart-Mangled Banner" and something came to me. Maybe it doesn't center just on the family's incarceration (that would be too much like "The Frying Game" ). Maybe it centers around the media hype that comes from it.

Sorry if that's been said already. I don't check NHC that much anymore.  ;)
User_names_suck
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« Reply #271 on: 04-25-2004 13:59 »

Intresting news according to Tommaco from the NHC

FABF23 Treehouse of Horror XV Written by Bill Odenkirk.

leelaholic

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« Reply #272 on: 04-25-2004 14:03 »
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[Bart] So you know it's good [/Bart]

Interesting find, User name. I've really gotta check that place more often.
newhook_1

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« Reply #273 on: 04-25-2004 16:02 »

Wait, Bill Odenkirk wrote "A Tale Of Two Santa's" and "Insane In The Mainframe" right? He sounds perfect for a halloween special.
Ranadok

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« Reply #274 on: 04-25-2004 18:08 »

I think there is an interesting possiblility in Simple Simpson that is opened up with the Dalai Lama's inclusion.  We know that Lisa supports a free Tibet, and it would make sense that she holds the Dalai Lama in high esteem for a number of reasons. I think she may very well have a major part in the resolution of the episode, perhaps helping Homer to refuse Mr. Burns' demands or something along those lines when she discovers who his next target is (or Homer just refusing when he realizes that he is important to Lisa). Either way, it could be interesting. I don't think that the Dalai Lama's part is completely out of nowhere (well... it is...), but it does seem like someone that Burns would have an irrational hatred for (or some barely rational hatred). We'll see how it works out, we will.
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« Reply #275 on: 04-25-2004 18:20 »

 
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Wait, Bill Odenkirk wrote "A Tale Of Two Santa's" and "Insane In The Mainframe" right? He sounds perfect for a halloween special.

This is a rarity, a new ep which I'll look foward too...

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« Reply #276 on: 04-25-2004 18:41 »

In the new episode tonight, watch out for a "Futurama The Movie" poster in the background when the Simpson family visits the "Lackluster Video" movie store. I'm not 100% sure because I only caught it out of the corner of my eye. So keep your eyes open in that scene when it airs in America.
DotheBartman

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« Reply #277 on: 04-25-2004 19:00 »

Ha ha, awesome.  How was the episode itself though?
newhook_1

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« Reply #278 on: 04-25-2004 19:17 »

Ok, this review may contain some minor spoilers.

I thought it was alright. The little grandpa bit didn't really go anywhere, and there was a musical montage (which was a parody of something, not sure what) that went on for far too long. It was pretty funny overall, and most of the wacky gags worked. All of the gags involving grandpa were either laugh out loud funny, or fell completely flat. The plot mirriors the first bit of "Natural Born Kissers" (Marge and Homer trying to rekindle their marriage), with Bart and Lisa thrown into the equation.

Some great gags, most are funny, but it has a well worn plot. I'll give it either 3/5 or 3.5/5 I'm gonna need to watch it on FOX tonight to decide for sure.
leelaholic

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« Reply #279 on: 04-25-2004 19:25 »
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It's still 35 minutes until the American premiere, but I'm glad to see that it won't suck. Maybe I will bother to tape this one.   :)

Edit: Newhook, if you're refering to the montage shown in the promo, I'll tell you now that it's a parody of the movie Catch Me If You Can (which this episode's title is derived from).  ;)
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