Justice League

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they show repeats of Justice League at Friday at 2am, and JLU repeats at 10:30 Sundays.

But, honestly, does the scheduling really matter?

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It matters to people who aren't home on Saturday nights.

I don't really care when it's shown, but it would be nice if they reran it more often.  Reruns during the week would be good.

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Just reminding everyone - JLU season 3 premieres with 2 new episodes Saturday at 10pm.

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Ok, my breakdown of the new episodes:

I loved the JLU design of the Legion of Doom headquarters. But what I loved about "We are Legion" was not that Grodd rules, as usual, but that one scene near the beginning, where Shayera tells Flash "You know she's...Brazilian." The quick cut to Ice laughing at something Fire says, and then the absolutely devastated look on Flash's face before Shayera says "Brazilian" had me laughing pretty hard, partially at the fact that they got away with implied lesbianism. I love how the writers of JLU are pushing the TV-Y7FV barriers to the maximum.

And we have Fire, Ice, and Booster Gold has shown up in some earlier JLU episodes...I'm highly anticipating a Blue Beetle appearance, even if as a background character cameo.

As for the second episode, the best moment was obviously when Lantern sees Shayera in a dress. "Shayera, I'm - Judas Priest!" That had me cracking up. However, despite the Hawkman appearance, the episode was pretty much standard JLU - still damn good, and no doubt introducing things that are gonna be wrapped into the plotlines later on, but still kinda average for JLU. The only other thing that roused my attention was John DiMaggio doing the voice of the villain at the beginning of the episode.

Also, did anyone catch that in "We Are Legion," they saved a place full of historical artifacts and treasures from being destroyed, and in "Shadow of the Hawk," they couldn't save a place full of historical artifacts and treasures from being destroyed? I just kinda found that point interesting...

And thank god the second-rate non-DCU Superfriends became the Ultimen instead of them being in the actual League. Course, that means we've missed out on the chance to see Grodd kick the ass of that damned Wonder Twin monkey, which would've had me cheering...
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Originally posted by RavenStar:
I loved the JLU design of the Legion of Doom headquarters. But what I loved about "We are Legion" was not that Grodd rules, as usual, but that one scene near the beginning, where Shayera tells Flash "You know she's...Brazilian." The quick cut to Ice laughing at something Fire says, and then the absolutely devastated look on Flash's face before Shayera says "Brazilian" had me laughing pretty hard, partially at the fact that they got away with implied lesbianism. I love how the writers of JLU are pushing the TV-Y7FV barriers to the maximum.

That was my favorite scene too.  Of course, Fire is actually straight unlike Ice.

 

And we have Fire, Ice, and Booster Gold has shown up in some earlier JLU episodes...I'm highly anticipating a Blue Beetle appearance, even if as a background character cameo.

Don't hold your breath.  The legal question of just who actually owns Blue Beetle isn't likely to be sorted out anytime soon.  Which is a shame, because I'd love to see an animated version of Blue Beetle as well.

I can't say that I'm happy with JLU turning Hawkman into a possibly delusional stalker.  I could accept Tim Truman turning him into a former drug-addict and murderer, but this just seems wrong somehow.

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Well, Beetle was in the Johnny DC JLU comic:


and he recently appeared in that comic again, so I'm still hopeful.

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It's one thing to have Beetle in the comic, but it's another thing altogether to have him on the cartoon.  Before they can use a character on the show they have to have the animation rights to the character.  Animation rights can sometimes be difficult to get, which should be obvious from how long it took to finally get Captain Marvel on JLU, and from the fact that there are still no plans for Wonder Girl to appear on Teen Titans.

Additionally, there seems to be some controversy over whether or not DC actually has the legal rights to use Beetle in the comics in the first place.  I don't know what difference that makes in securing the animation rights, but I doubt that it makes things easier.

A Blue Beetle appearance on the show isn't an impossibility, but it doesn't seem very likely, at least for now.

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I love it so much this show is the best if only it was on free to air tv it would be pefect

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Well I just saw the episode with Captain Marvel int it (I only get to see the episodes on a rather sparadic asis due to university).

It was pretty damn cool and as David A said ther end of the fight between marvel and Superman was obviously inspired by Kingdom Come (althought eh orginal was considerably more kcik ass in context).

I have just started reading Crisis on Infinite Earths. So I now know where the JLU Green Latern comes from. Although I think I have seen character who died in Crisis but are on the series.....oh well DC continuty confuses the crap out of me anyway.

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Originally posted by wu_konguk:
Well I just saw the episode with Captain Marvel int it (I only get to see the episodes on a rather sparadic asis due to university).

It was pretty damn cool and as David A said ther end of the fight between marvel and Superman was obviously inspired by Kingdom Come (althought eh orginal was considerably more kcik ass in context).

Oh, absolutely.

 

I have just started reading Crisis on Infinite Earths. So I now know where the JLU Green Latern comes from. Although I think I have seen character who died in Crisis but are on the series.....oh well DC continuty confuses the crap out of me anyway.

Fortunately, you don't need to worry about the comic book continuity when watching the show, which exists in its own seperate continuity.  JLU features a mixture of Golden Age, Silver Age, and Modern Age characters.  And yes, there are even characters on the show that died during the Crisis.

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Apparently, CN is going to be showing 2 new eps of JLU again tomorrow at 10...

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Ok, here's my pick on the two new eps that aired tongiht:

In the first episode, the Gamera reference at the beginning completely threw me for a loop. I never expected it, and was quite thrilled to see it. The epic battle also got me, because I love epic crap like that. Supergirl's new outfit was HAWT, and Stargirl wasn't bad either. And of course, the "You no talk about Supergirl she melt you with her eyes!" line cracked me up. And I like how they used the thin pretext of having Metallo and that something-Banshee down at the Sag-whatever it's called place to unleash some massive action sequences. The slow reveal of the Legion of Doom to the heroes is just awesome.

In the second episode: Ollie! I was glad to see Green Arrow back. "And Black Canary said a buzzsaw arrow was self-indulgence..." The reference to the 1970's Wonder Woman TV show (when Diana spins around and her outfit changes) made me laugh. However, I'm finding it odd that Grodd seemed to be a science...person -- when he showed up in season 1 of Justice League, but now he's suddenly going after things of mythical power (Spear of Longinus, corpse of a Viking Prince that's supposedly invulnerable). So far the only real thing he's tried to get is that huge chunk-o'-Kryptonite from the episode before this one. And also, Black Manta's new design was one of the coolest I've seen so far. And I liked the ice woman, but don't know her name. Who was she?

Overall, these episodes both rocked.

I'm STILL waiting for Question and Huntress to appear, though!

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Originally posted by RavenStar:
 And I liked the ice woman, but don't know her name. Who was she?

Killer Frost, an old Firestorm villain... for some reason they can use her but not him.

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Oh, yeah, I kinda forgot to mention: I was going "Whaaat?" at the end of the second new episode. No Martian Manhunter? I wonder how the JL's gonna cope now.

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Originally posted by Kryten:
 Killer Frost, an old Firestorm villain... for some reason they can use her but not him.

I was wondering about that. As far as I can think, Firestorm is the only remaining "big" DC character that hasn't been touched on at all. I wondered if there were legal reasons he couldn't be used (like Wonder Girl and Captain Marvel [until recently]). I guess Kryten explained that.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Killer Frost used in the Superman cartoon? I think I remember an episode where she and Harley Quinn teamed up to fight Supergirl and Batgirl, in one of the later episodes of the season. Is this right?

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 http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/WF/batman/tnba/episodes/GirlsNiteOut/

That was actually a "The New Adventures of Batman and Robin" (you know, when B:TAS got really mediocre) episode, and no, Killer Frost wasn't in it.

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Originally posted by RavenStar:
In the first episode, the Gamera reference at the beginning completely threw me for a loop. I never expected it, and was quite thrilled to see it. The epic battle also got me, because I love epic crap like that.

Yeah, it's nice to see that Tokyo gets attacked by kaiju even in the JLU universe.  Why Gamera, though?  He was always a good guy.

 

Supergirl's new outfit was HAWT, and Stargirl wasn't bad either.

I liked Supergirl's new outfit too; mostly because it looks more like the old Supergirl costume than what she'd been wearing on the cartoon.

I guess that Courtney is calling herself Stargirl after all.  I thought that she was the Star Spangled Kid.  Well, whatever.

 

And of course, the "You no talk about Supergirl she melt you with her eyes!" line cracked me up.

"Oh yeah?  Well, my step-dad is a mecha!"   

 

Sag-whatever it's called place

Skartaris.

 

The reference to the 1970's Wonder Woman TV show (when Diana spins around and her outfit changes) made me laugh.

That was my favorite part of the episode.  I love it when they put stuff like that in the cartoon.

 

However, I'm finding it odd that Grodd seemed to be a science...person -- when he showed up in season 1 of Justice League, but now he's suddenly going after things of mythical power (Spear of Longinus, corpse of a Viking Prince that's supposedly invulnerable).

Well, Grodd did claim that he only sent Luthor after the spear as a test; although considering how powerful the spear supposedly is in the DC universe, I have some doubts about that.

Oh, and a Viking prince named John in pre-Christian Scandinavia?  I don't think so.  Try again, JLU writers.

 

And also, Black Manta's new design was one of the coolest I've seen so far.

Yeah, although I notice that he's being called Devil Ray.  I guess the name Black Manta wasn't politically correct.

 

I'm STILL waiting for Question and Huntress to appear, though!

The Question was overused last season.  I'd much rather see them let other characters have some time in the spotlight.  I wouldn't mind seeing an episode with Batman and the Huntress, though.

 

Originally posted by evan:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Killer Frost used in the Superman cartoon? I think I remember an episode where she and Harley Quinn teamed up to fight Supergirl and Batgirl, in one of the later episodes of the season. Is this right?

You're thinking of Livewire.

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Good news: Mark Hamill will be playing The Trickster in the next new JLU ep.

Bad news: Due to the stupidity of CN, Naruto will now be repeating Saturdays at 10 and Bobobobo Bo-Bobo will be premiering at 10:30 for a while.

Semi-good news: Old JL eps will still be airing at 2 am on Fridays - here's the schedule for that block:

 

* Saturday, Oct. 8: "Legends, Pts. 1 and 2" at 2 a.m.

* Saturday, Oct. 15: "A Knight of Shadows, Pts. 1 and 2" at 2 a.m.

* Saturday, Oct. 22: "Metamorphosis, Pts. 1 and 2" at 2 a.m.

* Saturday, Oct. 29: "Twilight, Pts. 1 and 2" at 2 a.m.

* Saturday, Nov. 5: "Tabula Rasa, Pts. 1 and 2" at 2 a.m.

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from a new comicscontinuum.com article:

   

Voice actor Lex Lang told The Continuum is providing the voice of Captain Cold in the upcoming "Flash and Substance" episode of Cartoon's Justice League Unlimited. The episode is as yet unscheduled but will likely air during November.

There's also this:

   

Donal Gibson is reprising his role of Captain Boomerang in an upcoming episode of Cartoon Network's Justice League Unlimited.

The character will be seen in "Flash and Substance," which will likely be the next new episode. In the story, Batman and Orion see a different side of the Flash when a rogues gallery of villains attacks the museum that is opening in his honor.

Gibson, brother of actor Mel Gibson, previously voiced a non-costumed Captain Boomerang in the "Task Force X" episode of JLU.

In addition, the episode features Flash villains Trickster (voiced by Mark Hamill), Captain Cold and Mirror Master.

The episode will also include the DC Animated Universe introduction of Linda Park.

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More news from comicscontinuum:

 

Alexis Denisof, who played Wesley on Angel, is providing the voice of the Mirror Master in the upcoming "Flash and Substance" episode of Cartoon Network's Justice League Unlimited.

Ron Perlman, the star of the Hellboy movie and the voice of Slade in Teen Titans, reprises his role of Orion.

Kim Mai Guest is providing the voice of Linda Park. She previously did the voice of Silver Banshee in Justice League.

The date of the episode hasn't been released yet, but it is expected to air in November.

In other words, when this damned ep finally airs, there's gonna be an assload of villains...

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Yet another Whedon alum voicing.

Y'know, Allyson Hannigan would be perfect for Ice.

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Well, fuckbuckets...according to Comics continuum:

 

No new episodes of Justice League Unlimited are scheduled for the Nov. 7-Dec. 4 period, and it's likely the next new episode will air in 2006.

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*BUMP*

When do new episodes air?

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No clue. CN hasn't scheduled the rest of the season yet. Though, unless a miracle happens, this is undoubtedly the last season for the show.

JL season set DVDs are coming out starting early 2006, though.

 

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Yeah, I'm glad the season DVDs are starting to come out finally, instead of three episodes at a time. That and season 2 of Superman:TAS. WOO HOO!

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Rest of JLU season 5 pushed back to late Spring/Early Summer

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Well well - JLU pushed up to February 11th

Most likely, this is due to the fact that the episodes have begun airing in the U.K. already (I've seen 'em all, they're all good, trust me)...but anyways, this is still good news.

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I've only managed to catch one of the new episodes "illegally," and I liked what I saw. I really think CN is doing a shame to the series to constantly knock it about like so. JLU is one of their best kid-marketed shows, but they don't even show repeats of it. All this stupid third-grade drawn anime/Yu-Gi-Oh knockoff crap is painful.

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All I can say is Dead Reckoning is perhaps the finest half-hour you'll ever see grace a TV.

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Alive! - the 1st part of the season (series?)-ender, has aired in the UK...

And after watching it, I can say without a doubt it contains the most Oh-shit moment I've seen in a while. I can't say anything else for spoilers.

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From what I've heard/read about the future of JLU, it doesn't look too bright. It's not because the writers and staff don't want to continue with the show, or that the show gets low ratings, it's because with the increase in DC Comics-related movies coming up, it'll be too hard to keep all the rights to every necessary character. I may just be guessing here, but I can imagine the same being the reason Teen Titans ended.

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I had forgotten why I liked this show so much.  Now I remember.   

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If this is the last season, shouldn't they at least focus on the original 7? I don't care about these new guys.

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The last episode had the Flash and Batman.  Orion was in it too, but the episode was really about the Flash.  What more do you want?

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Superman. Although I'm glad to see Flash more again. He was missed in that, ungodly season.

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News on the Legion of Superheroes show (emphasis added-RS)!

 http://www.comicscontinuum.com/stories/0602/17/index.htm

 

Andy Milder has been cast for the voice of Lightning Lad in the upcoming animated series featuring the Legion of Super-Heroes, The Continuum has learned.

The series, from Warner Bros. Animation, is expected to be announced soon. Creators from both Justice League Unlimited and Teen Titans are involved in the project.

Milder played Dean Hodes in Showtime's Weeds. He's provided voices for such video games as The Incredible Hulk: Ultimate Destruction, Vampire: The Masquerade -- Bloodlines, Men of Valor and Star Trek: Elite Force II.

There's also news of an aquaman live-action show on WB, but I don't care about that so much, so you all can talk about that if you want...

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A Legion of Super-Heroes cartoon?  Awesome.  It's like these people are out to make animated versions of every comic book that I loved as a kid.  What's next, a Tales of the Green Lantern Corps cartoon?

Loved the debut of Tala, queen of evil in Saturday's episode.  I hope we'll get to see a confrontation between her and Zatanna in a future episode.

"Quit bashing my fluffy bunny worldview.  It's all that's keeping me from stealing your hat."

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I don't care how much it ostrasizes me from old-school DC fans, but under things I don't like, there's the Shining Knight, Vigilante, Crimson Avenger, and the Legion of Superheroes.

Other things I don't enjoy: really lame, flat dialogue from General Elling, a predictable ending, the cliche of the townsfolk banding together around a broken hero, bad voice acting. If it wasn't for the GA/Speedy interactions, I would have nothing to recommend for tonight's episode.

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This episode is not the best of season 5. The only thing that really struck me about it was the brutality of the fight scenes and the Speedy cameo.

The next episode, however, is one of the best of season 5, Wally gives the best reason ever for why he did't wash his hands.

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*writes evan's name on a pottery shard*

I loved this episode just because it featured all of the Seven Soldiers of Victory together in one story.  I also liked the Spy Smasher cameo and the Captain Nazi reference.  Stuff like that is what makes this show great.

I was kinda surprised to find out that Vigilante is such a fan of Clint Eastwood, though.  I would've thought that he'd be more of a Roy Rogers fan.