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Kryten: Nah that's okay... season is over, not much left to talk about - thanks anyway
FF: I used to be a trekky .. long time ago... but I don't remember much of what I watched, it was all midnight viewing anyway
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Ninaka
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Star Wars is ridiculous... all those little animals running around, I don't know.. however on the other hand Star Trek never made sense - how all the "aliens" seemed to have human-like basics to their body form. Gee, Actors?
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Ninaka
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Hah... Gee the writers are original, I can give them that
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Drippy_taco
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No we don't, that thing was funny for the first 3 or 4 minutes then it got old, repetitive and boring.
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futurefreak
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yeah but petco shouldnt have sued then...tsk tsk tsk
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Teral
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I thought wrote this somewhere else, but here goes.
Movies:
1: "First Contact" 2: "Wrath Of Khan" 3: The Undiscovered Country" 4: "The Voyage Home" (hey, it's knocked up a notch. BAM!) 5: "Insurection" 6: "The Motion Picture" 7: "Generations" (Insert displeased grunt here) 8: "The Search For Spock" (Insert displeased mourn here) 9: "The Final Frontier" (Worst Trek ever)
And now series:
1: DS9 2: DS9 3: DS9 4: DS9 5: TNG 6: TOS 7: TAS 8: V'Ger (Insert horrified shriek here)
Once I've seen some of Enterprise, it'll probably knock V'Ger down to 9.
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MuscaDomestica
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I am not that big of a Trekkie, I like to divide my time with different shows. Here is how I rate the top 9 somewhat serious sci-fi shows of the 90's (warning contains anime)
1.Babylon 5-Space Opera: Not sure why but I like the way the show felt, it was like reading a novel. Plus it had amazing characters
2.Crest of the Stars- Anime Space Opera:, even more novel like then Babylon 5, but not as large of a cast, the Abh (the alien race in the series) were very well developed.
3. Neon Genesis Evangelion- Psychological study / action / anime: well done characters and complex plot with some creative designs for the Angels and the Mechs.
4. Farscape- Space Opera?: Very fun show, sometimes a little over the top but has great characters and isn’t afraid to take risks.
5. Serial Experiments Lain- Cyberpunk Anime: The best adaptation of anything cyberpunk I have seen, although it can get a little tedious at times
6. DS9- Space Opera: Great character developments, dark, when another show came out that could of out did them they changed their format to become more story oriented instead of just ripping plot lines like another Star-Trek series that will remain nameless, this made 2 great Scifi TV series.
7. X-Files conspiracy/paranormal: Season 1-4 very good, well written TV some amazing episodes and well thought out characters and stories, after season 6 show went into crapper haven’t seen it in years
8. Trigun: Wild West/Space anime: Like the characters (see a theme) plot has a very interesting progression through the series.
9. TNG: I am not sure why but I do not find this series that interesting, never really got into it that much
I didn’t list series I didn’t like, like Dark Angel, Voyager, Enterprise (saw one episode, was nothing but the same old Voyager esq Trek with baseball caps), Andromeda etc
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ZombieJesus
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Best baddies: -Borg -Breen -Jem'Hadar -Romulans
These really annoy me, because of the awful make-up and characteristics: -the Ferengi -the Vorta -the Founders (what do they think they are? life size barbie dolls? Shop window dummies?) -almost all the Delta Quadrant races
First Contact was the best Trek movie.
I hate it when the story is about some fantasy/religious/spiritual subject. That means: Generations and all the Bajoran religion eps from DS9.
Also, I think you can't compare Star Trek and Star Wars. Star Trek is more like sci-fi, and Star Wars is more like fantasy or a fairy tale.
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I enjoy all the Star Trek series that I've seen, DS9 most, but I prefer Babylon 5 and Farscape.
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ZombieJesus
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« Reply #68 on: 04-27-2002 11:14 »
« Last Edit on: 04-27-2002 11:14 »
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I liked DS9 more. I remember watching reruns of "Space 1999", but my sister thought it sucked and she wanted to see Star Trek: TNG. By coincidence, it was aired the same time on another station. So I started watching that instead. WOO! YAY! exactly halfway to captain
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« Reply #69 on: 04-28-2002 01:51 »
« Last Edit on: 04-28-2002 01:51 »
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I like Voyager. Despite Janeway's less-testicularly-oriented, let's-negotiate-rather-than-blast-the-crap-out-of-it-and-run-for-home style of captaining, I thought she was a capable leader. The only other failings of the show were the sheer number of times Janeway died and the addition of Naomi Wildman to the cast (Wesley Crusher-esque, don't you think?). A lot of the character interactions were also entertaining in their essence, particularly Neelix and Tuvok. Maybe it's just me, but I prefer the Intrepid-class look of Voyager to the classic Galaxy-class. The Delta Quadrant had its share of not-to-be-messed-with baddies: the Borg-thrashing Species 8472, the Hirogan hunters, the organ-harvesting Vidiians, and the history-erasing Krenim. The Kazon (Ogla, Nistrom, or whatever) were a really pathetic enemy (they didn't even have replicators).
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Originally posted by DrThunder88: I like Voyager. Despite Janeway's less-testicularly-oriented, let's-negotiate-rather-than-blast-the-crap-out-of-it-and-run-for-home style of captaining, I thought she was a capable leader. The only other failings of the show were the sheer number of times Janeway died and the addition of Naomi Wildman to the cast (Wesley Crusher-esque, don't you think?). A lot of the character interactions were also entertaining in their essence, particularly Neelix and Tuvok. Maybe it's just me, but I prefer the Intrepid-class look of Voyager to the classic Galaxy-class. The Delta Quadrant had its share of not-to-be-messed-with baddies: the Borg-thrashing Species 8472, the Hirogan hunters, the organ-harvesting Vidiians, and the history-erasing Krenim. The Kazon (Ogla, Nistrom, or whatever) were a really pathetic enemy (they didn't even have replicators). Most of the aliens in Voyager do look pathetic. Like the Kazon: really bad Klingon imitators with out of date technology The first seasons weren't worth seeing. _____________________________ _____________ I also think the design of Voyager could have been better, like the Akira or Steamrunner class, seen in ST: First Contact and various DS 9 eps. _____________________________ _____________
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I also have a question. WHY of prequels? Star Wars, ST: Enterprise, etc.
After hearing of S.W.: Episode 1, a prequel, I thought: Oh shit, if this is the latest development( in sci-fi and other genres, even in computergames, like Tomb Raider.) then they 'll do this to Star Trek too. I was right, even before even hearing of the latest series. Though, I thought this series would take place in the timeline after the original series, not before. I thought George Takei, Mr Sulu, would be the main character. _____________________________ _
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I enjoyed Voyager, although not on the level I enjoyed DS9 or TNG. It was fun, but not especially deep for me.
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ZombieJesus
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Originally posted by Kryten: If they really wanted to do something memorable, they'd do a Section 31 series. It's Trek, without the gooey moral center. Yeah Section 31 ruled. I bet they had superior and even illegal technology, like Phased Cloaking devices and stuff. Think of it. The Romulans have their Tal Shiar, the Cardassians had the Obsidian Order.
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Teral
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Originally posted by DrThunder88: I like Voyager. Despite Janeway's less-testicularly-oriented, let's-negotiate-rather-than-blast-the-crap-out-of-it-and-run-for-home style of captaining, I thought she was a capable leader. The only other failings of the show were the sheer number of times Janeway died and the addition of Naomi Wildman to the cast (Wesley Crusher-esque, don't you think?). A lot of the character interactions were also entertaining in their essence, particularly Neelix and Tuvok. Maybe it's just me, but I prefer the Intrepid-class look of Voyager to the classic Galaxy-class. The Delta Quadrant had its share of not-to-be-messed-with baddies: the Borg-thrashing Species 8472, the Hirogan hunters, the organ-harvesting Vidiians, and the history-erasing Krenim. The Kazon (Ogla, Nistrom, or whatever) were a really pathetic enemy (they didn't even have replicators). Yeah, the Krenim were cool. Because the writers actually took the effort to invest some personality into the two leaders of the timeship. That double episode was one of V'gers best (although they did press the "Mother Of All Reset Buttons" in the end ). The Viidians was nice, the Hirogen was acceptable. Species 8472, meh, not the best part of that two-parter. The main problem with V'ger was the lack of continuity. Very few actions had long-term or even short-term impact on the characters development or the ships fate. Heavy damages was repaired magically from episode to episode, none of Janeway's bad command decisions was ever touched upon, etc. The only characters who ever grew and changed was Seven and the Doctor. Well, that's my main beefs with the show: continuity out the window. Pity, V'ger started out with such potential. Damn, I showed my nerdiness again. Arh, too late it's already written.
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DrThunder88
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Originally posted by Teral: ...Heavy damages was repaired magically from episode to episode, none of Janeway's bad command decisions was ever touched upon, etc. The only characters who ever grew and changed was Seven and the Doctor.
Yeah, if the ship was too heavily damaged or a main character died, you could always count on a temporal "Hail Mary" to bail them out. Other than the initial decision to destroy the first Caretaker's array, I can't think of any other bad command decisions Janeway made. Seven and the Doctor did seem to be the only characters who changed, but they changed so much more than the other characters.
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I just know it's a good thing they have the resources to build not one, but TWO Delta Flyers.
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