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i_c_weiner
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I have reservations for Up. It doesn't exactly seem like a compelling film as is, but it especially doesn't seem so having to follow up WALL-E. That's like expecting Godfather Part III to be good.
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Xanfor
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I agree regarding Cars. The rest of the Pixar films were all ingrained into reality, usually with one small difference, such as toys actually being alive; monsters living in another world (reality, universe, perhaps just a faraway planet, whatever have you); rats, fish, or insects being able exhibit humanlike behaviour or being able to communicate with humans; a theoretical far future; and of course, the classic parallel seventies with superheros. Cars, however, had no basis in any sort of realistic elements. The entire film, in fact, passed with the presence of no more biological organisms than a few representative cacti. I can accept for the sake of Toy Story that toys are sentient... But at least they exist for a purpose, for children to play with and enjoy. Why do the automobiles of Cars exist?
(Perhaps the film portrays the society that managed to evolve on Earth following Stephen King's short story "Trucks"...)
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i_c_weiner
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And, while watching Up, you'll think, "Wow, I want to tie balloons to my house and float it away!" Up is by far the most realistic movie Pixar's done story-wise, although WALL-E is definitely the most realistic animation-wise. Cars, however, bears neither of those features. Sure, Up doesn't have any massively fantastical elements like the company's previous outings, but at least those fantastical elements were rooted in some realism. Cars is a pure alternate reality with no logic to its existence. However, on a redeeming note, it did have George Carlin...
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i_c_weiner
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It was the best film I saw i theaters this year, and I saw Slumdog this year. It's not exactly Best Picture worthy like WALL-E was (although I can't recall any good movies this year otherwise), but it'll definitely get Best Animated easily.
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hobbitboy
Sir Rank-a-Lot
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« Reply #92 on: 10-19-2009 13:36 »
« Last Edit on: 10-19-2009 13:42 »
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[Quoted from the movie review thread] Up 3D
First time I've seen a movie in the cinema for a good couple months, the 3d worked well which seems to mimick the eye squint 3d effect. Good movie, although it seems to fail as a kids movie.
B+ due to the fact that it is supposed to be a kids movie but it doesn't fell like a kids movie.
[Emphasis mine.]Is it supposed to be a movie for children? Has Pixar said that. Has Pixar ever said that about any of their movies? Personally, I don't believe that animated movies are automatically kids movies (Was Wizards a 'kids' movie?), nor are movies with a G or PG rating. (What rating would Casablanca or Its a Wonderful Life get these days?) Was Futurama supposed to be a kids show? It was a cartoon aired at 7:00pm after all. Or am I wrong?
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Ben
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« Reply #94 on: 10-20-2009 01:34 »
« Last Edit on: 10-20-2009 01:39 »
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Is it supposed to be a movie for children? Has Pixar said that. Has Pixar ever said that about any of their movies?
Exactly. I don't see Pixar's offerings as being aimed at primarily at children. They're just wonderful, well-made, superbly-told stories. I know I definitely got more of a kick out of the likes of Wall-E than a 7 year-old wold have. It's the same with games, really. Ironically, the ones that get described as 'mature' are the ones that seem to only appeal to 15 year-old pubescent boys (or adults who haven't progressed beyond that mindset), where all you do is walk around shooting at things in dull, pseudo-realistic environments. I stopped playing those sorts of games years ago, because they're just boring to me. I still enjoy the likes of LittleBigPlanet and the Mario franchise, though. There's a sense of art and whimsicality to them that I enjoy, which strikes me as a hell of lot more 'mature' than gunning down Nazis ad infinitum. The same goes for Pixar films. Just because a child can enjoy it, doesn't necessarily mean it's only for them.
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rach_the_tall
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I still haven't seen Up. My date has had to cancel on me twice - the last time we ended up eating Thai on her couch and watching TV, so it wasn't all bad, but still. I need to see Up and I'm a weak woman who can't go to the movies by herself.
Other than that, it's got to be:
1. Wall-E 2. Toy Story 2 3. Monsters Inc 4. Toy Story 5. A Bug's Life / Finding Nemo 6. The Incredibles
Haven't seen Ratatouille or Cars, and I'm pretty sure I am the only person alive who didn't really care for The Incredibles.
And as for them being for children/ marketed at children? I guess it's just the language of film. You don't have to come out and say "this is for children", it's all learnt over time. People (especially Westerners) see animation, easily digestible moralistic stories devoid of violence and sex, bright colours, talking animals/ inanimate objects and they think "children". Pixar are obviously rewriting it, but come on. Since Snow White, feature length animations have very much been the domain of kids.
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Morgan_G19
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The Incredibles is a great movie simply because The moment they started with movie with the Supers being sued and banished I knew The Incredibles would be great!
But my fav has got to be Monsters Inc. The whole concept is just simply adorable
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hobbitboy
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What? No one has liked Finding Nemo best? I am surprised. (I voted for Cars, btw. So to Ben et al.)
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hobbitboy
Sir Rank-a-Lot
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Even though it isn't Pixar, Kung Fu Panda was a really good movie
Agreed. In fact, in my opinion, 2008 was a good year CG movie-wise with Horton Hears a Who!, Kung Fu Panda, WALL•E, and Bolt all being much better than I had hoped they might be. Up was just the icing on the cake, so to speak.
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i_c_weiner
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1. WALL•E 2. Toy Story 3. Up 4. Monsters, Inc. 5. Finding Nemo 6. Toy Story 2 7. Ratatouille 8. The Incredibles 9. A Bug's Life 10. Cars
Although I liked Cars the least, I have to say that I'm looking forward to Cars 2 and think it'll be far better than the first. And it pains me to put Toy Story 2, Ratatouille, and The Incredibles so low, but I loved the rest. Also, Up's a sure-fire lock for a Best Picture nomination, partially thanks to WALL•E's snub.
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Pikka Bird
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Cars? Cars was too...impersonal.
Cars was a fairly straight rip of Doc Hollywood, and very disappointing. I liked how it was executed, but the writing was way too generic. My list looks like this, I guess: Monsters, Inc. Up Toy Story The Incredibles Toy Story 2 Wall•E Finding Nemo Ratatouille A Bug's Life Cars My attitude towards my own list reflects Ben's pretty much, including my opinion on Cars.
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Nasty Pasty
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Mah list:
1. Wall-E 2. Up 3. Finding Nemo 4. Toy Story 5. Monsters, Inc 6. The Incredibles 7. Ratatouille 8. Toy Story 2 9. Cars 10. A Bug's Life
Really, I don't understand the massive heaps of Toy Story 2 love amongst Pixar fans, I really didn't care too much for the sequel, although I'm very excited for Toy Story 3.
I'll tell ya though, we should have a whole different thread dedicated to the Pixar Silent Shorts that air before every movie. The short film "Presto" which was paired up with Wall-E, was pants pissing hilarious.
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