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Melllvar
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I'm not sure I wanna see Red Dragon, because Manhunter is one of my favourite movies, and they should've left the damn thing as it was.
Julianne Moore = agreed, overrated.
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Atticus
Bending Unit
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VelourFog, that's what I meant about Red Dragon. In the book, you get a complete understanding on how Francis Dolarhyde is who he is, and his mentality behind what he does is touched upon a whole lot more. It's like the book puts you in his point of view, its wierd. I felt a little dissapointed after watching the movie. Instead of trying to put more Hannibal Lecter in the movie than there ever was in the book, the screenwriters could have focused on explaining the mind of Francis Dolarhyde. He was the main character in the book, after all. Let's put it this way. The movie spent around 3 minutes tops explaining Dolarhyde's background/mentality, with a few vague flashbacks. Yet Thomas Harris used nearly half of the book to touch up on Dolarhyde's background/mentality. Also, Reba(the blind girl) isn't nearly as stupid as the movie portrayed her. She is a lot smarter in the book. So is Dolarhyde. Basically, I think the screenwriters were just writing to get as much Hannibal Lecter in the movie as possible. They even put in a few lengthy Hannibal scenes that were never in the book(!?). And they did this at the expense of the significantly important character development of other characters. Read "Red Dragon" if you ever get the chance. You'll see what I mean by all this ranting.
Oh, and I agree with what you said on Julianne Moore. I think Jodie Foster played a much better Clarice Starling.
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DrThunder88
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Originally posted by FishyJoe: Everyone on the internet says it sucked. ...and in the end, isn't that what really matters?
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Action Jacktion
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« Reply #49 on: 07-29-2003 13:40 »
« Last Edit on: 07-29-2003 13:40 »
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Originally posted by FishyJoe: I think every movie is both overrated and underrated. Look at Titanic. You can say it's overrated, because it made so much money and won all those oscars and stuff. But who actually likes it? Everyone I know says it sucks. Everyone on the internet says it sucked. How could it have been so successful, if everyone hates it? It's an interesting thing.
Same with a lot of the "cult" movies. Evil Dead anyone? People say it's underrated, because it hasn't achieved mainstream success. But nerds act like it's the best movie ever. It is not. Titanic was so popular while it was out that it burned itself out pretty quickly, and was immediately replaced by Star Wars: Episode I hype. The backlash took longer to get started. And maybe the kinds of people who use internet forums are the same kind who hated the movie, just as they seem to be the kind of people who are obsessed with Donnie Darko and Equilibrium and so forth. Still, it is interesting that even talks about Titanic any more. Hopefully there won't be a tenth anniversary revival in a few years. And no, Evil Dead is not the best movie ever. Army of Darkness is.
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The Names Nick
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"Screamers" Underrated Note: I would like to see a sequel to Screamers.
"People Under The Stairs" Underrated.
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M Jackson
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Hitchcocks The Birds is highly overrated, nothing compared to Jaws. AI is underatted, I truely believe it's one of the greatest films of all time. Red Dragon is underatted, although most people think it's quite good, I personally enjoyed just as much, if not MORE than the silence of the lambs! Oh and I think that Dog Soldiers is a bit overrated, sure it was fun, but it really ain't that great.
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The Names Nick
Professor
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"Project Shadow Chaser" = Underrated Note: same goes for the sequels.
Another movie that I think is underrated is the one where the teachers in this Miami high school are replaced by three killer cyborgs. This movie also had a sequel, but the sequel was a disgrace to all Sci-Fi films it sucked so bad. Anyway I just can't remember the name of this movie damnit!!!
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Nixorbo
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Originally posted by Nixorbo: Overrated - Battlefield: Earth (It actually got a couple of good reviews, really)
And here they are!4, actually.
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ZombieJesus
Lost Belgian
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Independence Day was overrated patriotic dribble.
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homerjaysimpson
Space Pope
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Originally posted by ZombieJesus: Independence Day was overrated patriotic dribble. Your are right about that one. The ending was so gay too. Eraserhead-largely underrated Harrison Bergeron-also largely underrated Matrix 1,2-overrated Home Alone 1,2,3-overrated
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Nixorbo
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Originally posted by ZombieJesus: Independence Day was overrated patriotic dribble. Aren't you at least going to mention the blatant Saint Crispin's Day speech ripoff?
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Allen
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Personally, I think they should have stopped with Home Alone 2. Home Alone 3 is more stand alone than the previous two.
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OC_James
Liquid Emperor
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Home Alone 4: Alone in the Hood- Alex Johnson (Rory Culkin) is tired of being treated like a kid by his parents. He gets a nerdy friend of his to send his parents a letter saying they have won a trip to Hawaii and the letter even includes two expired tickets to Honolulu. Alex figures his parents will leave him with a babysitter, go to the airport, find out the tickets are useless, and angrily return home a mere two hours later. Alex hires two bumbling gangster-wannabes (Tracy Morgan and David Alan Grier) to scare his babysitter (Betty White) and let Alex pretend to scare them off, proving to his parents once and for all that he can take care of himself. Unfortunately, due to a security mistake Alex's mom and dad's tickets are counted valid and they really leave for Hawaii. Once the gangsters show up at Alex's house he realizes that he made a mistake and cannot afford the money for them to scare off his babysitter. They scare off the babysitter and come after Alex. While this is going on a horrible storm kicks in knocking out the power and phone lines. This doesn't stop Alex from attacking them with his pet monkey (Bubbles), getting them caught in mousetraps, and filling all the canned foods in the house with roach poison. When the two can't stand it anymore they use their cellphones to contact their gangs, promising a big reward will be in store for them if they help knock off the kid (turns out Alex is a part of a very wealthy family). A gang incredibly similar to the real life Bloods shows up at Alex's house (led by Luis Guzman) and shoot up the place in search of Alex. Betty White who has been hiding under her bed contacts the police when the power finally comes back on. The 5-0 show up at Alex's house and one of the most awesome battles in the history of movies ensue. In the end Alex's monkey causes an explosion with a lighter, a can of gasoline, and a well placed garbage can. The Semi-Bloods are blown to hell and all is well. Alex's parents return home showering their son with attention (like at the end of every Home Alone) and Betty White officially quits her job as babysitter with a funny little speech about kids in the ghetto. At the very end we see Tracy and David still alive crawling away from the scene badly burned. A husky dog comes up to them, smells them, and pisses on their faces as they scream in agony. THE END.
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