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ZombieJesus
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Can't be arsed to read through all of this.
It was the success of Star Wars that got the people behind Star Trek thinking, and they made the first movie. The rest is history. So, in a way, ST owes SW.
My personal choice = Star Trek.
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PCC Fred
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Originally posted by ZombieJesus: It was the success of Star Wars that got the people behind Star Trek thinking, and they made the first movie. The rest is history. So, in a way, ST owes SW.
*harsh buzzer sound* WRONG! The people behind Star Trek had already decided to make a new Star Trek series in 1977, they'd built the sets, written the scripts, hired all the original actors except Leanord Nimoy, hired Persis Khambatta as Ilea, hired Stephen Collins as Decker. Then Star Wars came along, so the makers of Star Trek decided to scrap the TV show and make a movie instead. However a lot of what you see in the movie - Decker, Ilea, the costumes and sets, are pretty much what the new series could've been like.
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Nixorbo
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Originally posted by PCC Fred: Which explains why Ardra put the moves on Picard. Because Patrick Stewart is a sexxy bitch
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kip
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You can't make a comparison. I look at Star Wars more as Sci-Fi + Fantasy. Where Star Trek in my mind is more like "this is all science, listen to these complex words and weep suckaz".
Still, if the next star wars film is anything like the Ep I and II... I might side with Star Trek. Really shoddy stuff. The only thing saving the star wars name is Natalie Portman (who happens to be oh so cute)... and the other films (Eps 4, 5, 6).
Farscape: Crap in season 1, but then it got really good, really quick. Aeryn is the kinda girl that tunes up cars, and wants angry sex when you get home from work. Erm, hang on anyway, I think I liked it for more original story lines. Perhaps there is so little Sci-Fi on UK terrestrial TV, you'll watch anything they give you... and if it's Farscape, so be it... you may grumble... but like any sci-fi show... you watch 1 ep, then another, and another... then you're hooked.
PS. Babylon 5 was only good during the Shadow war... Zahadoom(sp?) and all that crap
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Lurrr
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Damn my crappy computer! I've missed most of this disscussion! Anyway, I love both Star Wars and Star Trek but I can't choose between them. The orignal Star Wars trilogy was great but Episode 1 and some of Episode 2 just suck. Star Trek TNG is just classic TV sci-fi but everything after that was crap IMO. But they very different programmes- Star Trek dealt with some important issues during its run. Star Wars is just a big epic story. Not that makes worse mind you. I'll forget I read all that stuff about B5 and Farscape. I can't really be arsed to argue about it
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FishyJoe
Honorary German
Urban Legend
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« Reply #59 on: 07-28-2003 13:10 »
« Last Edit on: 07-28-2003 13:10 »
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By Kip: The only thing saving the star wars name is Natalie Portman Are you kidding me? She's cute, but she's the worst actress ever! The prequels would be so much better if they had an actress who knew what she was doing. They should have kept Kiera Knightly!!!!!!111 ...one. By Gocad: Don't worry, kip. George Lucas promised that Ep. 3 will be much darker...
Then again, I think he said the same before Ep 1 was released. And before Ep. 2 was released.... Actually, since he started working on the prequels, his "order of darkness" story has been kept pretty straight. Episode one is the lighthearted adventure, Episode two is darker, but still ends with Anakin getting married, and Episode three is the darkest, when everything goes to hell. But it doesn't matter how dark the movies are--I care about how well they are done. Temple of Doom was the "darkest" Indy movie, but it was also the worst/most childish. Attack of the Clones had a lot of dark stuff(limbs flying everywhere, parents dying, Anakin killing semi-innocent creatures, the empire forming at the end), but it also had some lame stuff. I have high hopes for episode III though. I'm even trying to stay spoiler-free this time.
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Lurrr
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^ Amen brother!
It's strange that the people I meet who say that sci-fi is boring are the same people that watch soap operas and reality TV shows 24/7. Strange in that I normally meet intelligent people. Even poor shows (IMO) like Voyager and Stargate are more inventive and imaginative than the majority of crap we see on the TV these days. How anyone can call Star Trek more boring then Eastenders, I don't know.
And that's not to mention the impact that sci-fi has had on TV. Sci-fi has been a pioneering force in every aspect, even race (Star Trek- first interracial kiss on TV) and should be appreciated as such. But no, we are doomed to wander our convention halls forever, alone but with our heads held high! *salutes before the flag of the UFP*
Ah screw it, I'm going out to buy my B5 season 2 set.
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kip
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« Reply #63 on: 07-30-2003 17:46 »
« Last Edit on: 07-30-2003 17:46 »
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Originally posted by FishyJoe: Are you kidding me? She's cute, but she's the worst actress ever! The prequels would be so much better if they had an actress who knew what she was doing. They should have kept Kiera Knightly!!!!!!111
I never said anything about her acting skills Actually, I think I'm so blinded by her cuteness I didnt notice she (according to you) can't act. That or I was cringing at the Jar Jar f**king binx (bincks? bincs? dickhead creature? sp?)... --- While we're on Sci-Fi, don't forget: Seven Days, Sliders, SeaQuest, Space Above and Beyond, and er... yeah that's all. Nobody and I mean NOBODY ever mention: EARTH FINAL CONFLICT. That show SUCKED SO MUCH ASS that if it SUCKED any more ASS, it would be an ASS sucking ASS, that sucked ASSES for kicks. Ok, no... that didn't make any sense, if only to convey my contempt for that horrid show.
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Nixorbo
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Originally posted by kip: Space Above and Beyond Sweet Satan on a pogo stick, I'm NOT the only one who remembers that show! Yet another Sci Fi show cruelly mistreated and cancelled by Fox.
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kip
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^^ Yes, it was a great show... with many hot women. And tank was cool. The end of the series was too sudden and tragic
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M Jackson
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Yes Arkad, when you think about it, all fantasy/adventure films share this common formula. It's called 'the heros journey', Akira Kerasowa used it too.
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Grim
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Originally posted by M0le: Star Trek isn't even fun to watch. I have to disagree, I have been buying the DVD sets and in the last 2 months I have watched close to 65hrs of Star Trek and have enjoyed every minute of it! Sit down and watch it all from the begining and its almost impossible not to enjoy, as long as you come at it with no bias, BUT each to their own
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Tweek
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It is hard to compare the two, apart from the word Star in the title and the fact that they are both sci-fi set in space they don't have much in common, a bit like comparing Pulp Fiction to Miss Marple on the grounds that they both feature crime.
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