Stuart
Bending Unit
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« on: 05-14-2003 07:51 »
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Yes, they're both really lame now, but which was better? 'Sports-entertainment' - the phrase used by the WWF in the 1980s as some people finally realised "hey, this isn't real" - can also be used to describe Gladiators I suppose, and the rip-offs which followed it (mostly on ITV UK).
Here's my special, inaccurate ratings system (marks out of 10. Although it's impossible to actually get 10):
REALISM Wrasslin' 2, Gladiators 7 MEMORABLE CHARACTERS Wrasslin' 9, Gladiators 5 APPEAL TO THE WHOLE FAMILY (except grandma and grandad) Wrasslin' 4, Gladiators 9 POPULARITY (as a fad at least) Wrasslin' 8, Gladiators 8 STEROIDS Wrasslin' [off the chart], Gladiators [not sure]
Okay, that's a stoopid system, but what does everyone think?
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Nixorbo
UberMod
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^ There's no part of that post I didn't like.
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Juliet
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I go for WWE. I like watching it butnow it's not as good as it was use to be.
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Stuart
Bending Unit
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Originally posted by FishyJoe: Correction: wrestling has been really lame always.
True, but it was really popular for a time in 1999-2000 (trouble is, there are only so many storylines they can make up before they start repeating themselves, so now it's a shadow of its former self...). Remember Stone Cold? The Rock? And so on. Lame and popular!
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Tweek
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They both suck more than words can describe
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iliketowankalot
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I used to watch wrassling alot in the early 90's and still watch it now and again, yes its really lame and it gotten even lamer in the last few years but sometimes extreme lameness can be funny. Like the frenchies been the new bad guys is funny, I never get tired of foreigners slagging off america or the anti-war, college boys get booed off and beating up. Also wrasslin fans are really homophobic how cum theres never been a gay good guy the gay guys are always the heels. Its only a matter of time before they cum up with the ultimate heel, a french college educated, anti goveremnent, anti war, gay homosexual gender bender
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Shadowcat
Crustacean
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those girls are horribe excuses for women they are just dumb trailer trash!
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Juliet
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true that is why we don't need all of this.
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Melllvar
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« Reply #24 on: 05-31-2003 05:26 »
« Last Edit on: 05-31-2003 05:26 »
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Originally posted by Juliet: Bring back the great wrestlers like Owen Hart and DX.
Yeah, and Kurt Hennig, Rick Rude, Texas Tornado and British Bulldog! Bring them all back! Then we can have the corpse-match. I'm with Evan, as he knows, I'm a long time Wrestling Fan, but have not been watching for quite a while. I flatly refuse to refer to the WWF as anything but the WW F - and I miss the days of the Monday Night Wars. For non-wrestling fans who debate the quality of entertainment on show, go rent/hire/see "Beyond The Mat".
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Melllvar
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"Wrestling With Shadows". It was a great documentary, leading up to the great Montreal Screwjob finish to Survivor Series 1997, which changed the face and fortunes of the WWF.
Not as good as "Beyond The Mat" though.
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Wonderbee31
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I have to agree with some of the more negative sentiments here. Having lived in the Mid-Atlantic region during my formative years, I grew up watching the NWA and AWA wrestling shows on TV. I still remember going to my local "Y" and seeing the shows there, with what were big name stars then and now, including Ric Flair.
These days, it seems like its all !@#$$%^ and T&A, with very little wrestling. That's why I had a great time working some wrestling shows in Japan, as the people there were professionals, and they worked hard to put on a good show. Mind you, it's not easy doing it, and I have enough injuries that I'm not going to ever try and do it again, though I do miss it.
That said, if anyone here wants to get an idea of what all wrestling involves, then you should rent or buy "Beyond the Mat", as it shows what happens to wrestlers, especially after they find that they really won't or sometimes can't quit. It made me sad to see what happend to one of my favorite heroes of old Jake Roberts.
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Melllvar
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Last time I heard, Jake Roberts had finally kicked his crack habit and was setting up a Wrestling Federation in the UK.
Wait, you Wrestled in Japan?
I agree, I hate the T&A, get back to the Wrestling. When the WWF do good matches, they do GREAT matches, and they still have the ability to make a decent PPV.
WM-X7 was pretty damn good.
I hate the way that the WWF have had some of the greatest angles fall into their hands after the death of WCW/ECW, namely the "Invasion" and the "nWo", and they fucked them both up. When there's no competition, one gets complacent.
The monopoly has made the product crap.
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The Names Nick
Professor
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Ok Ive been silent for too long, but now Im going to speak my mind about this. I think the best kind of sports entertainment where probably the gladiatorial games they had in ancient Rome. I mean what could be more fun than watching people fighting FOR REAL?
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Walshyboy
Crustacean
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How can anyone like Gladiators!!! It was the worst programme ever, dull and predictable. While Wrestling at the moment isn't at its greatest it is still better than alot of other things on TV. Everyone always seems to go on about how it is fake aswell, guess what, all TV and Movies are fake! People who insult wrestling are often those who can't understand it, and by the way, all wrestlers have drug tests now in every state before they can perform, so how can a wrestler take steriods exactly, that was stopped in the mid 90's for gods sake after everyone suddenly began to drop dead!! In short wrestling is far better than Gladiators could ever hope of being.
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