X-MEN Muntents

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Originally posted by Lee Roberts:
Rogue....      I like her in this movie. Sad about what happens near the end      If you've seen the movie then you'll know what I'm talking about.

I've seen X2, and nothing sad happens to Rogue at the end of the movie (unless I'm missing something)   

The sad thing at the end happens to...

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Jean Grey, the ending of the film paving the way for the Dark Pheonix storyline. [does a spoiler TOTPD]

[Reply #41 on:]

Daeathstryk ROCKED!!!!!!

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My favorite guy is Gambit, too bad he doesn't appear in this movie. Magento and Jean Grey are also great.

I can't say a lot of positive stuff on Cable. Maybe because most of my experiences with him comes from Marvel Vs. Capcom 2. Everyone that plays him makes him look very cheap.

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Chris I agree with you in MvC2 he is the cheasiest character in the game. Don't worry most people seem to hate him in the comics mainly because he is the start of the Gene-Scott family tree which seems to need multiple dimentions to plot out correctly and makes everyone in the Marvel universe related.

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I used to watch X-Men cartoons, when I was a youngerd. 

One question though, since I'm not hugely knowledgable on the X-Men, is does Magneto have the same background in the comics as he does in the film? (ie, in the film his parents were put in a the Warsaw Ghetto or something)

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I think it was the same, but in the comics it was his wife that was killed in Auschwitz. In the movie he was a kid, and he sees his parents dragged away to the gass chambers, this makes for a younger Magneto.

Just read the graphic novel that the movie was based on. God Loves Man Kills, it was interesting but I like the directions the movie goes on.

[Reply #46 on:]

Also magneto has a daughter, scarlet witch, and mabey quicksilver is his son tell me if im wrong

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yeah, that's correct lavalady.  I'm kinda upset they didn't make a reference in the movie to the relation between nightcrawler and mystique... 

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Prowla RX7. they did subtlely some nice camera work showing their simularities as they had the conversation.

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i haven't seen either of the films, as i don't care for halle berry and she plays Storm. i remember when i used to read X-Men religiously and Storm had her Mohawk and a love affair with Wolverine. i never liked Jean Grey, she's too much of a goody two shoes trouble maker for me. I do like Phoenix though. so my favorites are

Storm: because she hasn't quite yet mastered her abilities, and has a secret desire to be worshipped as a god like she was back in her homeland.
Phoenix: i always loved this creature, and i really like her fall from good into evil.
Wolverine: his story is very interesting, along with his rage.
and a bit on Rouge:
she may have the ability of flight, and super strength, but she does not have x-ray vision, her skin is not like armor, and she does not have the public's trust. she isn't all powerful because she can't control her powers.

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By Nix:
The original cartoon is the only cartoon in my opinion

You mean the FOX cartoon, right? Wasn't there one before that? I recall renting some X-men thing at the video store, when I was younger. The animation was extremely bad(I'm talking one step above waving an actual comic book in front of the camera) and the voice-overs were cheesy too.

 

By MuscaDomestica:
Actually the new cartoon actually started to get decent in the third season. The first two are still basicly crap but season 3 is much more interesting.

Well, if nothing else, I guess I can always admire you for your patience. I don't think I could sit through two whole seaons of crappy tv, just for another season that "starts to get decent".

 

Originally posted by Lee Roberts:
Rogue....    I like her in this movie. Sad about what happens near the end    If you've seen the movie then you'll know what I'm talking about.

I have nothing to say to this, but I thought I'd point it out and laugh at it.

 

By wu_konguk:
Yes it was Stryfe, Cabel's clone who created the virus.
Cabel's mother was Madelyne Pryor who was Jean Grey's clone created by Mr Sinister.

And that, people, is why I don't read comic books.

X-men(and a lot of other superheroes) is a good, fun concept, with some cool characters. But when you have so many different crappy writers working on it, for such a long time, it turns into this convoluted thing, with every character being related to each other, and having 50 clones of each character running around in 12 alternate universes. It's a mess.

It's a lot more satisfying to just wait 30 years for a decent tv or movie adaption.

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I think Nightcrawler is cool.....he could easily be the most powerful mutant I like Pyro in the movie but he could be very easily defeated............

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Who here hates Wolverine?

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He could have had 4 women in one --  mystic-rogue-jean grey-lady deathstrike! and if he was feeling extra freeky professor Xavier. I mean, he's got a free ride, what with his STD-healing powers and adamantium wang. What a let down.

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Originally posted by MuscaDomestica:
Prowla RX7. they did subtlely some nice camera work showing their simularities as they had the conversation.

Yes, I do realize that... but you have to remember that there are some very ignorant people in the world (FOX) who just don't get it.  "Oh, Nightcrawler's a rip off of Mystique."  I've heard this and laughed.  Sometimes camera work is not enough.

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FishyJoe, I stopped watching after about half way through the first season. Then I heard some good things about the end of second season and started obtaining the third season and was plesently surprised. Mutants became known by the general public and it started to feal more like X-men (although it still was kind of cheesy at times)

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It's great when my girlfriend has the whole cartoon series on tape... Every single episode...  But I haven't really watched it in awhile.  No real time to.

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Originally posted by sheep555:
   I've seen X2, and nothing sad happens to Rogue at the end of the movie (unless I'm missing something)     

The sad thing at the end happens to...

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Jean Grey, the ending of the film paving the way for the Dark Pheonix storyline. [does a spoiler TOTPD]

Yes. Jean Grey and her disfortune.

ps Lavalady: you spelt Muntents wrong! It's M-U-T-A-N-T-S Nothing wrong with that though

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phoenixie, you do know in the comics Rouge has the ability to now regain the powers she has already absorbed, so she can pop claws, fire optic blasts, teleport etc.

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I have some of those comics. I'll see what I can find. I do like the Uncanny X-Men. They seem better than Xtreme X-men. Also I'm reading some tonight so I'lll tell you the story tomorrow. Like you wonna know!  No, acually I think that'll be true.

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Just saw X2. Much better than X-Men 1 IMO, although as an X-Men fan I was so interested in all the subplots and character developments that I didn't notice anything else. Its was more what X-Men is about: huge plot developments, a larger scale and a much darker feel. Yes, I was quite happy after that.

And the action scenes were much better than the first film. They really showed the characters powers to the full (most especially Nightcrawler- his 'bamfing' was the most effective special effect I've seen!)

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beast is awesome, with his big hands. He Kinda reminds me of sully from monsters inc.
I hope rogue asorbs miss marvels powers in X3 so she can do more than just be a nuisance. Shouldnt mystique and night crawler know each other a bit better.

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Nightcrawler was abandoned by mystique as a child in the comics so he won't know her. Besides, he even said in the film that he can't rememer anything before his attack in the white house.

And I agree, it would be nice to see rogue do something other than running away. The scenes with her and Iceman were good but they only really focused on him.

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Originally posted by Lurrr:
Nightcrawler was abandoned by mystique as a child in the comics so he won't know her.

One, depends how old. Two, this might be a bit different from The Comics.

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Does this mean that the world of comics is wrong? Or is it just the script writers who want to change things, making us even more confused?

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I saw it yesterday and it kicked ass.

Me: God that blue painted arse gives me a woody!!
PEEL: Yeah, she's nice!
Me: She?
 

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I spotted the Beast cameo, go me!!
I imagine there'll be some sort of showdown between Pyro and Iceman in the next one?
Was that in the comics?

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Um, could we at least use spoilers?  Some of us like seeing movies without reading spoilers.

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I noticed Hank McCoy on the news boradcast but it confuses me because he should be big blue and hairy. Bryan Singer has always said Beast is the one character he would love to put into the films but if he does I don't see how he'll explain his normal appearance, unless he remains like like that (which would suck big time). There was also a cameo from Gambit somewhere but I couldn't find it.

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I'm not nerdy enough to know the whole story, but in the first issue of X-men, Beast was just a normal looking human, who was extremely agile. I guess he turned blue later, when he was caught in a nuclear blast or something.

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musica, no i did'nt know that, i just used to read the comics, i haven't read an x-men comic in a while. did'nt know that things had changed. i was thinking about reading x men : ronin. 

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Its new, I just found about it recently... from what I read the comic got real strange they had a member for a time whos power was his stomach was amblitory in the form of a couple maggots. Now any fly based superhero is great but I do not see Maggot as X-men material...

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shadowcat was in the movie but i didnt know if she was a teen or a little girl.
Gambits name was on the computer whene mysique was hacking into it.

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The whole Hank McCoy thing, which I did spot (Hooray! Hooray for Britz!) I think is simply homage, Beast as a charater was just too impractical me'thinks, to make a 'realistic' movie based on a brilliant, but bizzare, comic book series, you have to take a fair bit of dramatic license lets face it. So Beast and Gambit were cut but there memory lives on.

(I might mention to I was disappointed that Gambit was cut in the first, always hoped he and Rogue would work it out in the cartoon, thought the movie might help rectify it but alas, no Ragin' Cajan  to be seen.)

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They had a cameo from Gambit in the first film too but I have yet to spot it. Gambit and Beast were supposedly two characters Bryan Singer would love to put in but Gambit is a bit too much like Wolverine (cool, badass, big backstory, etc) and Beast would be quite expensive. It's typical though George Lucas has more than enough money to animate a small green gremlin for a film but we can't get 30 seconds of screetime for the Beast.

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What 's the name of that senator again?

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Didn't he turn out to be Apocalypse in one of the cartoon series?

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Originally posted by FishyJoe:
I'm not nerdy enough to know the whole story, but in the first issue of X-men, Beast was just a normal looking human, who was extremely agile. I guess he turned blue later, when he was caught in a nuclear blast or something.

I, on the other hand, am nerdy enough to know the whole story. 

Actually, X-Men is happily devoid of nuclear blasts as a source of powers for the most part -- the main thrust of the series is the emergence of powers from genetic mutation. It's fun to imagine the outcome of the Spider-Man origin if done realistically:

*FLASH* Local teen Peter Parker died of radiation poisoning today, stemming from an initial bite by an irradiated spider...

Lots of Spidey villains were the products of radiation, like the Sandman, and Hydroman. The same's true for the Hulk, too -- exposure to massive levels of radiation doesn't give you superpowers, Mr. Banner! It just kills you! You should know that, you're a nuclear scientist! So it doesn't matter how angry I make you!

As for Beast, I may be wrong, but I believe that in the cartoon (comics?) he was born human-like, as you said, but with abnormally large hands and feet. He grew to develop a keen intelligence, and became very hairy also as a further effect of his mutation. He turned blue after using a cure he had been working on to hopefully reverse the effects of his mutation (he is a actual doctor in the series, as you may know). I don't remember if it worked initially or not, but the end result turned his skin and hair permanently blue.

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I think the senetor your talking about is senitor kelly zomie jesus

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Doesn't Mystique work for Apocalypse though? She did at some point in the cartoon but I'm not sure about in the comics.

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If anyone is confused why people in the Marvel universerse radiation is not fatal read Earth X it explains alot. Including why Maganeto would call his group The Brotherhood of Evil mutants (it was changed to the Brotherhood only in the movie)

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I hope X3 has every mutant including Gambit and Beast.
Im confused can one of you nerds,i mean 'fans' clear some thing up for me? I was watching the odd cartoon and it said Magneto had a son and a daughter. If this is true in the comics and Tv show,tell me there names. Thank you.

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^ Worst. Spoiler. Ever.

Put the text between the [ spoiler ] parts.

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Originally posted by NibblerJr:
Magneto had a son and a daughter. If this is true in the comics and Tv show,tell me there names.

Quicksilver and the Scarlet Witch.