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David A
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Originally posted by Klumsy Kitty: For one thing it is cheaper then anime for certain. Not necessarily. They don't show any manga on Cartoon Network, and you can't rent manga for free at Blockbuster. So Coilette,would it be worth while to see those Tenchi movies before the series, or would that be a bad idea? I'd avoid the first and third movies until after seeing the series, but you could probably watch the second movie without having seen anything else. The first movie delves heavily into Tenchi's backstory, so it's really better to have seen the series first. The third movie, well, let's just say that it would lose a lot of it's impact if you didn't watch the series first. In fact, you really shouldn't watch the third movie until you've seen all of the TV series and the first movie, because the third movie was written to be the end of the Tenchi saga. The second movie should be okay, though. You might be a little confused, because you won't really know who the characters are, but all you really need to know is that Tenchi lives in a house with a bunch of girls from other planets. How they got there isn't really important to the plot of this movie. In fact, watching the second movie probably isn't a bad introduction to the series. It's not as good an introduction as watching the first six OAV episodes or watching the first five or six episodes of the TV series, but if you want to start with one of the movies, that would probably be the way to go.
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nerdlingus
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I just finished reading this chaps archive and found the series/strip/comic pretty cool, especially the relationships and 'comic' moments between the characters, so does anyone know how this comic compares to, say, Love Hina, Fruits Basket or Ah! My goddess as I want to start one of the series with the same(ish) kind of content as the comic which is sort of a comedy/romance/drama serial. I've read the general blurbs on the shows (bar Love Hina) and didn't really find out much. Also, opinions please, Excel Saga or Serial Experiment Lain? I'm cut between which one to start first as my money doesn't permit more than 2 series at a time unless I by movies (which I have been this month - Read or Die, pre-order on Grave of the Fireflys and Spriggan being recent purchases) with all this meaning I have less money, which is even shitter as I want to buy some Manga as well..... Maybe I should just get a higher paying job....
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Coilette
Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #324 on: 08-18-2004 11:07 »
« Last Edit on: 08-18-2004 11:07 »
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Originally posted by Klumsy Kitty: So Coilette,would it be worth while to see those Tenchi movies before the series, It looks like wu and David gave some good explinations to the storylines of the movies. The 1st one you do need to have watched Universe to really appreciate it. The 2nd, OVA knowledge is handy, to understand 'the lighthawk sword'. But the 3rd one is just a nice romantic movie, I don't really think any prior Tenchi knowledge is essential, but that's where we all have our differences. Overall it would be wise to watch some Tenchi episodes before tackling the movies. Of course, the descision is yours.
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David A
Space Pope
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Originally posted by Coilette: But the 3rd one is just a nice romantic movie, I don't really think any prior Tenchi knowledge is essential, but that's where we all have our differences. No, I agree; prior Tenchi knowledge isn't really essential to watching the third movie. It's just that, well, starting with the movie that was written to be the ending of the story seems wrong to me. That's like reading the last chapter of a novel first. Anyway, the best way to start watching Tenchi is to watch the first six OAV episodes. There's really no substitute. Some people will tell you that you can start with the TV series instead, and I suppose that you could; but if you watch the TV series before you watch the OAV episodes you might end up with some warped perceptions of the characters. (For example, you'll probably think that Ayeka is a bitch.)
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Nurdbot
DOOP Secretary
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Bump!
Got another file sharing service, started to Watch Love Hina and Trigun.
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wu_konguk
Urban Legend
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Ok this may be strange for me to put this review here as it is neither anime or manga. However it is based on a manga and has an anime version. I speak of course of Great Teacher OnizukaMuch like it's counter parts. The best way to way to describe this series is GREATNow for those who do not know what this is about. The series tells the story of a graduate of a third rate university who used to part of motorcycle gang, who wants to become a great a teacher. He finally gets his chance at the Serin Mushi academy. Due to his background he causes many headaches for the establishment. Now I admit with a synopsis like that I would not be endeared to this anime. However there is so much more to the series than this but I can not say without spoiling it. The series has the right balance of quirkiness, humour and emotion to make it stand out from other series. Now I have seen the anime and I am making my way through the manga. For those who have seen either I will tell you that the live action is different in many ways but keeps the general gist of the original. Many of the same situations appear but because this is a much shorter series (12 episodes of 45 mins) they have condensed some roles into other characters. The major difference is that the anime mainly focus' on Onizuka but in this Fuyutsuki (Matsushima Nanako) gets just as much screen time. This seems to be to build more of a relationship to the characters as well as giving a broader perspective of Onizuka. Sorimachi Takashi is brilliant as Onizuka. While he may not be able to pull the same stupid face as his manga counterpart he still has the charm and quirkiness to carry of the character. In many ways this series is superior to the anime as it conveys more emotion that did not come through as strong in the anime. Not to mention that the ending was allot better. All in all this is a fantastic series and gets a well deserved A+Now I need to find another place that has the movie and special. Oh and just for a little trivia. The finale of the series had the largest audience in Japanese history.
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EvilLunch
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I think it's funny when people say that the last episode of a series has such a huge number of people watching it. If it's a higher number than were watching the rest of the episodes, that would make many of the viewers people who'd never seen the rest of the show, wouldn't it? Oh well, I'm confused, but GTO -is- great. Also every one of you should read Azumanga Daioh. That is all.
"SEA CUCUMBER!"
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Nurdbot
DOOP Secretary
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Also, I've started watching Eva. It rocks.
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Nurdbot
DOOP Secretary
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Must...not..hightlight...gah! Make...it..up..to...Satan...l ater...
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Nurdbot
DOOP Secretary
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Woah, I saw End of Eva today too. I don't think I'll get all my head together, but after I saw most of the movie I read the thumbnail theater version on Toastyfrog for a laugh. The idiot I DLed the DVD from crapped up the first 30 minutes, Can I have a quick summary what happens during that lost time? It came into focus when SEELE released the Eva series.
As for Shinji, I felt sorry for him sometimes when his asshole of a father treated him badly or he suffered the traditional agressive beating from Asuka, But during the movie in several moments I just wanted somebody to give him a right boot up the arse and tell him to save the World.
Oh, and I loved Gendo's end. Served him right.
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Lurrr
Professor
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I saw End of Eva a few weeks ago with my brother and one of my sisters, both of whom had just watched Eva in its entirety only once. I'd seen it at least twice by then, and it made much more sense to me (a glance through some fansites helped). I found that a lot of it is personal interpretation.
The characters were rather strange too- I thought Shinji was much more annoying in EoE, Misato was quite cold and aggressive, and Rei was even more emotionless than usual.
Right now, I'm halfway through Martian Successor Nadesico, which is rather cool. I'll pick up the rest of the series when it goes cheap again. Love the theme tune though.
And Forbidden Planet were having a sale recently so I got some Manga, based on comments I'd read here:
GTO Volume 1 -Quite amusing, may need to read more though. FLCL Volume 1 -Halfway through right now, and I can't tell what the hell is going on! Love Hina Volume 1- Not started yet.
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Nurdbot
DOOP Secretary
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The scenes that creeped me out in the Eva movies: The Shinji-Asuka Hospital incident. Gendo groping Rei on the inside. Asuka's Eva being ripped apart. Giant Rotting Rei. Shinji strangling Asuka at the end.
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David A
Space Pope
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Originally posted by wu_konguk: The FLCL manga is actually quite different from the tv series and I felt the ending in book two was a little unsatisfying. How many volumes of the FLCL manga are there? Just two, right? Maybe I should get those. Also on a good news bad news front. According to Wizard magazine the third Tenchi Muyo OVA has a US licence :yay: the bad news is that it is not Pioneer (the orginal dubbers of the Tenchi series) but Funimation (who, if their work on DBZ is anything to go by suck ass). I just hope they get the orginal voice actors. Well, even in the Pioneer dub there were cast changes to two of the main characters. I'm pretty sure that Tenchi's dad and grandfather both went through a few different voice actors as well. Obviously, I'd prefer if they kept as many of the original voice actors as possible, but I can probably tolerate a few cast changes. As for Funimation, they're really not that bad. I've seen quite a few episodes of Yu Yu Hakusho, and I watched Blue Gender on Adult Swim. Aside from the fact that a lot of the same voice actors were used on both shows, I really didn't have any complaints about the dubbing. Of course, they're not as good as Pioneer. Also in the wizard article they also mention that Tenchi will choose his future bride in the third OVA. Now I remember reading up on some of the original inforamation released on OVA 3 about 3 years ago where they did mention this but that information was later removed from all official sites. This led me the believe that Kajishima that he might be able to milk the Tenchi cow just a little more. Personally I hope he does choose as i might put and end to some of those good damn aweful fan fictions (not all of the are bad but they are the rare cases) If Tenchi does choose, he'll choose Ryoko. Duh. I don't know if we'll ever see a definitive answer to that question, though. Even in Tenchi Forever we didn't expicitly see who Tenchi ends up with (although it was strongly implied), and that was written to be the end of the Tenchi saga (the TV series version of it, anyway). On a similar note I have reassed my posstion on some of the Tenchi characters. As some here know I had no great love for Ayeka. However I now realise that I dislike her only in the TV series, her character is much better in the OVA. That's what I've been saying all along.
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Nurdbot
DOOP Secretary
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Wu: Eva is not the sort of thing you'd buy a relative or watch on a nice bright sunny day where all things are perfect.
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wu_konguk
Urban Legend
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@ David A Yes there are only two volumes of the manga 9at least that I know of) Also some of the voices in YuYu Hakusho really grated with me but in all it was not that bad I suppose. I also just found at that funimation did not get the orginal cast for the episode which they appeared in GXP, however since they only had a few lines each it's not that surprising. I also agree with the person you say he should choose but with the introduction of Noike it might be different. Really we have to wait for the the next 3 episodes to be released in Japan but I think there is deffinitly something suspicious about Noike. Pesonanally i just hope they don't cop out like they did with the end of GXP he married all of the women, granted there was some reasoning behind it but it seemd like a cop out to me Also I do conseed to your wisdom concerning Ayeka. @Nurdy Indeed. I think it would be a bad idea for me to show it to my parents at any rate as they think that all anime is weird and it would only reinforce that.
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Nurdbot
DOOP Secretary
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Ugh, Funimation. I'm glad I'm such a sub whore.
Wu: But, all anime is weird. It's supposed to be most of the time. Bar Akira, Fireflies and Ghost in a Shell. Oh, I saw that recently.
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David A
Space Pope
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Originally posted by wu_konguk: I also agree with the person you say he should choose but with the introduction of Noike it might be different. You misunderstood. That's not the person I think he should choose. That's the person I think he would choose. I think he should choose Sasami. He'd have to wait until she grows up, of course; but once she does, I think she'd be the best match for him. I don't think that that's what Tenchi wants, though. Also I do conseed to your wisdom concerning Ayeka. It took a couple of years, but you finally came around to my way of thinking. For my next trick, I shall turn Venus into an anime fan. I'll need a copy of the live-action Witch Hunter Robin movie. Does that exist yet?
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Nurdbot
DOOP Secretary
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I'm giving Full Metal Panic a try now. As for Mahromatic, the art seems rather odd with the slight darkness and agnst from time to time between the nudity and other service.
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EvilLunch
Professor
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Has anyone here seen Kino's Journey? It's wonderfully thoughtful and quiet and well-written.. Something that doesn't jump out at the viewer but makes them think and stays with them for a long time.
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