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Okay, Pitt, I'll give you that. Once the AT Field is back up, and they're in that position.. ...Okay. Fair enough.
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[Still for Shinji x Kaworu though.]
Oh, I 'grew up with' a crappy quality fansub of EoE wherein the last line is "I Feel Sick." I've heard a few translations since then but to me that'll always be the right line.
TOTPSmoke.

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Tiffany Grant has an explanation on her website. Check out question 6.

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Originally posted by Lurrr:
Tiffany Grant has an explanation on her website. Check out question 6.

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Oh, please, not the morning sickness explanation again.  That's a stupid explanation.  You're stupid.

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Good, I'm not the only one who thought that that was a bit of a funny rather than a decent 'theory'.
Can't wait to hear some real news about this live action film though.
Hopefully they'll get it right and make quite a good movie/series of movies.

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Originally posted by David A:
 

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Oh, please, not the morning sickness explanation again.  That's a stupid explanation.  You're stupid.

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I wasn't exactly referring to the morning sickness bit, more the bit about translation problems. I'm not sure about the 'morning sickness' theory, but the problem with translating something like this is you can lose the original meaning, which makes Asuka's last line quite bizarre to me.

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Originally posted by Lurrr:

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I wasn't exactly referring to the morning sickness bit, more the bit about translation problems. I'm not sure about the 'morning sickness' theory, but the problem with translating something like this is you can lose the original meaning, which makes Asuka's last line quite bizarre to me.

Yeah, okay.  I agree with that.

Whichever translation you're watching, Asuka's last line is going to be open to interpretation.

Still, that's no reason to jump to bizarre conclusions like the 'explanation' in the link you posted.

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In all honesty, the movie is so bizarre ANYWAY I wouldn't be surprised if that theory is correct. Anything's possible after those frickin' scary schoolyard kids.

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Sure, anything's possible, but really...

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"I read on some website that someone's husband worked on the show, and he said that he heard that Anno once said that Asuka's comment about feeling 'sick' was a reference to morning sickness."

Someone's leg is being pulled here.

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Well it's all speculation anyway. I mean the great theing about Eva is that is can enterprited so many ways.

Speaking of weird and mentally disturbing anime, I really must watch Serial Experiments Lain again. Maybe I'll understand it more this time 

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Is Serial Experiments that good?  I've been thinking about buying the series but am not sure whether I'd like it or not.
I do like Eva, Bebop and Noir, them being the only ones I've seen (bar Najica - but I didn't really get that for its story).
But I read somewhere that Lain is similar to Boogiepop Phantom, of which I've only seen the first episode and I found it a bit strange, but aslong as there ain't many angsty cry baby moments in it in which the lead character frequently bursts into tears, I would definately give it a shot.

So whaddya think, should I or shan't I?

On another note, what with all that talk about cry baby lead characters, I watched the anime edition/version/prequel to Ichi the Killer last night.
Its more fucked than the film is.
If its a series though, then I will be collecting them.

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Lain is extremely weird in places. Imagine the last few episodes of eva for a whole 13 episodes. Still it is very cool.

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You won't have a lot of problems with crybabies in Lain, Nerdlingus, Lain is almost autistic at times. I only cried once the whole series, and I am a sucker for anything shippy;you just won't find it here.

Not a ton of action here,this puppy will make you THINK...and it's going to hurt your head after a while. Very surreal, and jarringly so. Trying to follow the storyline could put you into a mental institute,don't bother;just let it sort of wash over you. Actually, it can be quite brutal on occasion violence-wise, but you may be in too much of a fog to notice.
The beginning and ending theme songs were really good to me, but the soundtrack itself is just...well judge for yourself on that.
I liked this a lot,seen it two or three times now, but more then most this is a "love it or hate it" anime. There are some pretty neat, and pretty weird ideas expressed in this one, I would be curious what you make of it, be sure to let us know, eh? One good thing is it is actually a very short series,only 13 episodes. It will seem longer.

I should add that Lain really was an experiment in another way; they also made a manga(comic book series),a playstation game and a soundtrack CD,and supposedly they are all different but all mesh together in terms of ideas and the general themes. This really was a multi-media, multi-channel experience. You will see why that relates to the storyline in the anime as well. Just be aware that the anime is not "the whole story". It's bad enough as it is and you really are missing parts of the puzzle altogether so to speak. Also, they never sold those other parts here in the U.S., so you are pretty much out of luck should you want to try and get it all. Even so, it's still not bad as an anime.

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Well I have just finished wathcing Final Fantasy Unlimited. Now a while back I stated to watch it through fansubs amd I really thought the 3d graphics jarred alot with the 2d cells. Strangely this is not true for the DVD's, the 3d works so much better an looks quite good. This may be the same method that was used for Tenchi GXP where the tv broadcast used a lower quality and higher quality for the DVD realeases (not to mention that things like towels where added to the girls when bathing for the TV version).

All in all I thought it was an interesting series, certainly a stronger story than "the spirts within". However it seems that square need more than a 25 episode series to tell a story as it seems that some of the characters backgrounds are barely scratched apon.

Never the less I did like the series.

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I'm not sure if this counts, but the only anime I actually like is the short anime bit they did in Kill Bill Volume 1. It's the part where O-Ren Ishii (sp?) witnesses the death of her parent from under the bed. As for anime series, I can't recall any I like.

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If you liked that Nibbles, you would probably like Blood: The Last Vampire,it was done by the same people. I also like one shots myself, series can be a pain to follow sometimes,that is why half my anime collection is movies or OVAs(mini-series). You might also want to take a look at Kite or Hellsing as well.

Just trying to corrupt another innocent soul, don't mind me...

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Yes production I.G are a very good animation studio.

Well time for a little grivence that became happiness. I speak of course of Wolf's Rain. Now I watched the 26 episodes that my friend lent me and thought it was an ok series but it did not seem to have a proper ending and to add to the insuult it have 4 yes four clip episodes (basically recappeing what happeed to each of the four main characters). Later I found out that these four episodes where produced because of SARS (the animation studio was forced to be closed or something like that while the virus was about) and they produced four more episodes released on DVD.

So after alot of hassle I finnaly got the final four episodes and I will say it completes the series quite well. The very end leaves some interesting questions.

Let's just say if your lookign for the next Bebop (same studio) you'll be disappointed but if you take the series on it's own it is quite good.


Now I have a question. What to people prefer, fan subs or the offcial englis releases? The reason I ask this is for two reason, first I head that in the Viz release of Naruto manga's they have renamed some of the techniques (Kage no bushin is now the doppleganger technique) which is really dumb. Also I was rewatching my Tenchi OVA DVD's andfrom my primative understaning of Japanese I could here inconsistancies between the words and the subtitles (just small things)

I have come to prefer fan works when they are done well. They have a tendency to be more faithful to the original work with alot less American bastardisation.

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Originally posted by wu_konguk:
Now I have a question. What to people prefer, fan subs or the offcial englis releases?

I prefer the official releases, because the people who actually make the anime don't make any money from fansubs.

 

Also I was rewatching my Tenchi OVA DVD's andfrom my primative understaning of Japanese I could here inconsistancies between the words and the subtitles (just small things)

Yes, there are small differences between the Japanese and English versions of Tenchi.  The English version is better.

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I've only ever seen the English version (Toonami one at that... sorry    ). There dont seem to be any Tenchi Series on offer on E-bay at the moment either, so I'll have to wait a bit longer.

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When I say the English version is better, I mean the uncut English version, not the Toonami version, obviously.

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Not exactly what I meant about inconsistancies. I meant little things like Aeka calling Washu "Ms Washu" rather that "Lady Washu" which it should be.

Aahwell. I also disagree. I prefer the subs over the dubs. Firstly I like the voice actors much more and the characters make moresense in the orginal context.

Also I was reading something on one of the Tenchi forums which I thought was weird. They di not have a pic so I captured my onw. This is from GXP set 2 years after the third OVA.



Now I do wonder why Ryoko is wearing Tenchi's jacket?

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Originally posted by wu_konguk:
I meant little things like Aeka calling Washu "Ms Washu" rather that "Lady Washu" which it should be.

You mean because in the Japanese version she calles her "Washu-sama" instead of "Washu-san"?  That's a pretty minor thing, considering that most dubs don't even bother attempting to translate those suffixes.  I think the only reason that they bother in the Tenchi dub is because of the whole "Call me Washu-chan!" bit, which wouldn't make sense otherwise.

Anyway, a slavishly faithful translation does not necessarily make for a better dub.  I say that the English version is better, because the dub changes or adds things that improve on the original.  I'll give you an example, spoilerized for Coilette's protection:

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In "Hello, Baby!" when Ayeka gets peed on she throws the baby into the air.  Tenchi and Mihoshi both run to catch the baby.  Tenchi catches the baby just as Mihoshi crashes into him, knocking him down.  At this point in the original version, Tenchi says to Mihoshi something unfunny like, "Thank God he's alright."  In the dub, he instead asks her, "Did you have a nice trip?"

Now, obviously that line couldn't have been used in the original, because the pun wouldn't translate into Japanese; but if you can't see how changing that line makes it better in English, then I don't know what's wrong with you.

Granted, that's just one example; but I've watched all thirteen and a half OAV episodes in both English and Japanese, and in my opinion, the English version is better.

 

Aahwell. I also disagree. I prefer the subs over the dubs. Firstly I like the voice actors much more and the characters make moresense in the orginal context.

Nothing against the voice actors in the Japanese version, but the voice acting in the English dub of Tenchi is like the best thing ever (except for maybe the Spanish dub of Tenchi).

Anyway, whether you like subs or dubs better is really just a matter of personal preference.  One of the great things about anime on DVD is that you usually get both choices on the same disc, and you can watch whichever version you like best.

If you do prefer subs, you really should watch the official subtitled releases, and not fansubs, though.  I guess fansubs are okay if an official translation isn't available, but if an official translation does exist, then fansubs are really no better than bootlegs.  If you like an anime, then don't steal from the people who made it.  Buy the official release.

 

Now I do wonder why Ryoko is wearing Tenchi's jacket?

[Master Shake]Why wouldn't she?[/Master Shake]

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As a whole I do try to the get the offcial releases, as you say to help thr industry.

However there are some series like "Peace maker Kurogane" that may never be released in
English. Also things like Anruto that may take forever to be released over here and may be a god damn repeat of DBZ dubbing.

yes the Tenchi dubs are good but Petra Buchard's Ryoko sounds much older than Ai Orikusa's (Ryoko's physical age of 18, at least according to the offical site, before they changed it for GXP).

Still my fave dub is Cowboy Bebop.

Also Ryoko is quite abit dirtyer in the sub

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For example in "Here comes Ayeka"       when Ayeka tortures Ryoko screams in the English version "oh it tickles" in the Japanese "Oh I'm coming". Just a small difference 

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Well, they curiosity killed the cat, after reading both the spoilers (Thanks for the thought David A  )I need to get my hands on a full copy of the Tenchi Series. Is there anywhere (apart from ebay) that I can get the uncut version?

On the discussion of Dubs, I can only decide on what I've watched, I've seen both versions of Tenchi in Love 2. While both languages have their strong points (I love the emotion in the Japanese version and the comedy of the english version), I'd have to choose the english dub. Petera Buchard has done a wonderful job as Ryoko, I do agree with Wu, when he say's she sounds older than she should, but surely after being around for 5000 years, your voicebox gets a bit worn 

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Originally posted by wu_konguk:
As a whole I do try to the get the offcial releases, as you say to help thr industry.

However there are some series like "Peace maker Kurogane" that may never be released in
English. Also things like Anruto that may take forever to be released over here and may be a god damn repeat of DBZ dubbing.

Well, like I said, fansubs are okay if there is no official English release (sub or dub), but if an official release exists, you should watch the official version.  Calling your pirated copy a 'fansub' does not excuse you from theft.

Oh, and DBZ would suck in any language, no matter the quality of the dub.  DBZ doesn't suck because it's badly translated; it sucks because it's DBZ.  You know it; I know it; even Yellow Dog knows it.

 

yes the Tenchi dubs are good but Petra Buchard's Ryoko sounds much older than Ai Orikusa's (Ryoko's physical age of 18, at least according to the offical site, before they changed it for GXP).

I'll grant you that one.  Petrea Buchard isn't really my favorite voice actress from the dub anyway.

On the other hand, as far as I'm concerned, Jennifer Darling is Princess Ayeka.

 

Still my fave dub is Cowboy Bebop.

Also good.  I haven't actually ever seen Bebop in Japanese, but if it doesn't have Steven Blum and Wendee Lee, then there's no way it's as good as the dub.

 

Also Ryoko is quite abit dirtyer in the sub

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For example in "Here comes Ayeka"       when Ayeka tortures Ryoko screams in the English version "oh it tickles" in the Japanese "Oh I'm coming". Just a small difference   

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Heh.

At least they left in the lines about Ryoko being a masochist and Ayeka being a Sadist, didn't they?  At least I think they did in the uncut dub.  I'm sure they changed it for the Toonami version.

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God damn you Toonami.

And changing "Well you were going to show him your body" to "Well you were going to show him your bathing suit" was just ludacris.

Also i have the same stance with fansubs as I do with mp3 music. I download it to see if I like it, if I do I buy it. I got the fansubs of the first few episodes of Excel Saga, loved it and went out and purchased the whole series.

Now does anyone know if they translate and release weastern versions of Japanses live action shows? I have watched the first few episodes of the Live action Great Teacher Onizuka and I want to see the rest.

I will say I do like K.T Voight's Washu. Although that wa another difference between the English and Japanese

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In the Nurse sceen (cut entirely from Toonami) in the English she just says things like "Time to shake the dew of this lilly" in the Japanese she asks him how he wants it done (Hands, mouth, clevage of the full works"

@Coilette

As she says in "we need Tenchi". "My body is exactly the same as it has been for 5000 years". Obviously omitting the 700 years she speant as a freezed dried mummy :P

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Originally posted by wu_konguk:
God damn you Toonami.

Let's not judge Toonami so harshly.  Yes, the uncut version is better than the Toonami version, but many fans of the show were first introduced to Tenchi by Toonami.  That's really not a bad thing.

 

And changing "Well you were going to show him your body" to "Well you were going to show him your bathing suit" was just ludacris.

As far as I'm concerned, the digital paint swimsuits were a necessary evil.  You just can't show nudity on Cartoon Network.  Even Adult Swim doesn't do that.  The digital paint swimsuits allowed them to show those scenes mostly intact.  Univision (a Spanish language cable channel) used to show episodes of Tenchi dubbed into Spanish.  They didn't have digital paint swimsuits on Univision, though.  They just cut out any shots containing nudity.  Given a choice between the two, I'll take the digital paint swimsuits anyday.

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Don't hurt me, but:

Pokemon

Digimon

Tenchi

Dragon Ball/Z/GT

Kirby

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*Hurts John Pannozzi... alot*

I'm not into anime, and even I know those shows suck (possible exception with the orginal Dragon Ball).

I have a question about Love Hina. Someone showed me a few subtitled episodes of it the other day, and god help me I actually liked it. My question is about the Manga. Is it just as good or better than the show? I liked the show, but it wasn't worth buying a DVD in my eyes, but the manga, which is fairly cheap at a local book store, would be if it is as funny as the show. I love senseless pummeling. 

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[Hip Joint Guy]Did that guy just say that Tenchi sucks?[/Hip Joint Guy]

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Not only did I say it sucks, I don't even know what it is. I just assumed it was another show imported for children like his other favorites. I'm sorry if I've offended any anime freaks (not ment in a derogatory fasion), and the shock is preventing them from answering my question.   

Wow, it's just like talking to an ethnic minority.

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Originally posted by newhook_1:
Not only did I say it sucks, I don't even know what it is.

Yeah, that's always a wise policy.   

If you'd bother to scroll up a bit, you might notice that Tenchi is the show that Wu, Coilette, and I have been talking about for most of the page.  It's not a children's show, and it most certainly does not suck.  It's pretty much the opposite of suck.

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Arrrgh were be my beating stick?

If your going to say something sucks at least justify it.

Not that really matters because I would still hit you with my stick. 

Also. Yes it is not as mature as say Legend of the overfiend (which in my opinion sucks). However saying it is a kids show is like putting the Teletubbies in the same catagory as Sex and the city (Tenchi has about the same amount of tit shots as well)

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Originally posted by newhook_1:
I have a question about Love Hina. Someone showed me a few subtitled episodes of it the other day, and god help me I actually liked it. My question is about the Manga. Is it just as good or better than the show? I liked the show, but it wasn't worth buying a DVD in my eyes, but the manga, which is fairly cheap at a local book store, would be if it is as funny as the show. I love senseless pummeling.   

I've read and watched both in their entirety. Even made an amv for it. And whilst it is not my favourite anime, I liked it a lot for what it is. The manga in my eyes is far better, but I warn you you may find after readign one that you have to buy the whole series. There are ways to get hold of them free...perhaps online somewhere. Now I've said too much *runs keiitaro style avoiding pummeling from the intermanet police*   

Haven't kept up with anime lately but I saw Nausicaa Valley of the Wind the other day, fantastico!

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Oh I missed that post.

I to have also seen both the series (including specials and the OVA) and the Manga's are just alot more coherent. The story flows better but as Alena says once you have one you may have to get the rest.

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Aw, I'm sure Tenchi is a fucking awesome show. I was just trying to stir up the thread so someone would answer my question (worked didn't it?).     

I just figured that logic would dictate that John only watched crappy, Americanized anime, as that's what most of his list is, and it seems a good show got caught in the cross fire. I didn't read the rest of the thread because I'm a lazy, lazy man.

Oh, and Thanks, guys! The overall flow of the story is actually why I was reluctant to buy any of the DVDs. I'll probably pick up the first volume next time I'm at the book store (every second day).     

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I just bought a Tenchi DVD Collection off ebay; it has OVA series 1 + 2 (+ some 3!!!!  ), Tenchi Universe, Tenchi in Tokyo and the 3 Tenchi Movies. The DVD has both English + Japanese versions and is uncut, I know what I'll be watching later on this week.

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Coilette: I've been watching the discussion of Tenchi here and it's got me interested. I noticed eBay had a few imported box sets, so when you've watched it could you tell me if it's worth me picking it up?

Since I can't get anime on TV here the only way I can watch it is by buying the DVDs you see.

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Originally posted by alenacat:
Haven't kept up with anime lately but I saw Nausicaa Valley of the Wind the other day, fantastico!

Do you mean the new dub, with Patrick Stewart?  Is that out already?  I really need to see that.

 

Originally posted by Coilette:
I just bought a Tenchi DVD Collection off ebay; it has OVA series 1 + 2 (+ some 3!!!!    ), Tenchi Universe, Tenchi in Tokyo and the 3 Tenchi Movies. The DVD has both English + Japanese versions and is uncut, I know what I'll be watching later on this week.

Can I come over to your house and watch that with you?  I'll bring snacks.

 

Originally posted by Lurrr:
Coilette: I've been watching the discussion of Tenchi here and it's got me interested. I noticed eBay had a few imported box sets, so when you've watched it could you tell me if it's worth me picking it up?

She can probably tell you now.  Yes, it's worth picking up.

Tenchi Muyo! is, quite simply, one of the best anime series of all time.  I'd put it in the top five, easily.

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I haven't received it in the post yet, but I am expecting it tomorrow. If the episodes are better uncut than they are cut then I'd recommend picking up the boxset. I'll let you know how it is anyway.

I've got the 3 movies on separate Videos, if anyone's interested in taking them off my hands (taking, not paying    ), the offer is open.

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She can probably tell you now. Yes, it's worth picking up.

It's more the quality of the DVDs I'm interested in, and whether the dub is any good. Although I doubt the region 2 versions will be much of an improvement.