Star Wars: Return of the Thread

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I was thinking that I might skip the trailer but then I thought, what's the point? It's gonna be unavoidable on social media and YouTube thumbnails, and play in front of other movies at the cinema.

It didn't feel like it spoiled much. Gives more of idea on what the story's about compared to the other one, and the only real potential spoilery material looks deliberately misleading.

Thanks for the analysis, UrL! It makes me a lot less concerned about the few seconds of video I'll unavoidably see here and there or the odd semi-spoiler comment I'll come across in the runup to the madness. I managed to avoid all but a few glimpses of the Rogue One trailers.

Just how insane do you expect opening week to be in Adelaide? Do you enjoy being part of the insanity or do you plan to let things cool down a couple of weeks before seeing it?

[Reply #41 on:]

Avoiding the trailer? Talk about hating happiness and joy.

[Reply #42 on:]

hahaha

I prefer to rein in my desires and pass on immediate gratification, the better to experience and savor a much more intense joy and happiness later

[Reply #43 on:]

Just join past you with future you or something.  Whatever you're trying to do, just alter time I guess, or alter time in you, or alter you in time.  Something.

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Just how insane do you expect opening week to be in Adelaide? Do you enjoy being part of the insanity or do you plan to let things cool down a couple of weeks before seeing it?

Well, I almost always watch a new movie on its opening weekend, but normally I'll go around noon where its less popular. I believe I did that for Rogue One, however I don't think I did for TFA.

My local cinema isn't particularly massive so there's not much of a worry for seats running out.

And I do love being part of the insanity. I didn't think TFA was fantastic (though I certainly enjoyed it quite a lot) but the hype and atmosphere building up to it was magical. I doubt TLJ will match that

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A book was published earlier this month titled Star Wars: From A Certain Point of View. It's a collection of 40 short stories, all written by different authors & all set during/around the time of A New Hope (40 years since the film was released, hence 40 stories)

Have to say, I'm really enjoying it. Not sure if it's canon or not, but there's some real interesting tales in it. I have 10 stories left to read, but so far the best one has to be "The Kloo Horn Cantina Caper" by Kelly Sue DeConnick & Matt Fraction, which basically tells the tale leading up to how all of these characters:



end up in that spot in the film. Entertaining as hell! Highly recommend.

[Reply #46 on:]

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Rian Johnson, Writer-Director of Star Wars: The Last Jedi, to Create All-New Star Wars Trilogy

As writer-director of The Last Jedi, Johnson conceived and realized a powerful film of which Lucasfilm and Disney are immensely proud. In shepherding this new trilogy, which is separate from the episodic Skywalker saga, Johnson will introduce new characters from a corner of the galaxy that Star Wars lore has never before explored.

[Reply #47 on:]

The angle I read in Danish media was that Disney has had some bad years - financially - and apparently Star Wars is now their only major source of income.  So expect Star Wars movies from hereon until we're all dead.

Live long and prosper, my ass.

[Reply #48 on:]

May the Sequel be with you.

[Reply #49 on:]

The angle I read in Danish media was that Disney has had some bad years - financially - and apparently Star Wars is now their only major source of income.  So expect Star Wars movies from hereon until we're all dead.

Live long and prosper, my ass.

Seriously?  The mouse stopped printing nazi bucks?

[Reply #50 on:]

Johnson will introduce new characters from a corner of the galaxy that Star Wars lore has never before explored

 really dont like how this sounds... it could be literally be a new Ewoks movie ..or gungans..or Gunwoks..

[Reply #51 on:]

Can't wait for the ewoks sequel.

[Reply #52 on:]

Johnson will introduce new characters from a corner of the galaxy that Star Wars lore has never before explored

 really dont like how this sounds... it could be literally be a new Ewoks movie ..or gungans..or Gunwoks..

To me, it doesn't "sound" like anything. There's not exactly a lot to go on here, though I seriously doubt that whatever it is would be too divorced from the rest of Star Wars.

The fact that they're basically handing the keys to a new trilogy over to this guy is a hopeful sign, though. I doubt they'd be doing that if they weren't happy with TLJ.

[Reply #53 on:]

Yeap... but that "unseen corner" sugest it will be away from the jedi, the rebelion, empire, etc... and thats what i dont like.. it could be still good ..  but its like if you say you are making a Lord of the rings new trilogy "from an unseen corner of the world with totally new characters" .. you end up with something wich could be in any fiction world.. same with star wars.. and when you do that you end with stuff like the Ewoks movies

[Reply #54 on:]

There's a bunch of really cool stuff in the EU though, neh?

[Reply #55 on:]

Has anyone seen The Last Jedi? It's pretty cool. They finally made a decent Star Wars movie.

[Reply #56 on:]

Saw it this afternoon and really liked it. Hamil was phenomenal

[Reply #57 on:]

'Twas pretty cool indeed. The thing I liked the most was how often it subverted expectations; the good guys weren't constantly outsmarting the villains with cunning plans. In fact, pretty much all their plans were fucked up in some way. Also, Kylo Ren is shaping up to be a really good villain, I think.

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The scene with him and Rey teaming up was amazing. And the way Snoke was killed was just awesome.

If I had any criticisms it would be that the scenes on the rich casino planet dragged on a bit and could have been shorter. Also, BB-8 seems a little overpowered for such a tiny, non-combat orientated droid. And poor old R2-D2 did fuck all.

Now the real question is: what in Jar-Jar's name are they going to do regarding the death of Carrie Fisher? I've no idea of how they're gonna write their way out of this one.

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Yeah, I have similar concerns about the Carrie Fisher situation

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especially now that Luke's gone, too (though perhaps he'll quasi-return, Yoda- and Obi-Wan-style). It's just a bummer not to have any of the (human) characters from the original trilogy left (that said, I found Luke super boring in the original movies and really only came to love him here, now, in his final act as a grizzled old curmudgeon, so there's that). Like, I love Poe and Finn, and I thought Rey was far spunkier (to borrow Snoke's term) and more amusingly caustic here than in the first movie; Rose was also pretty cool...but fuck that line about dying to save the things you love, because I would have liked to see her built up to something more than a false romantic lead for Finn. And Kylo Ren's pretty good, too--I thought his conflict was really well-dramatized here, and he and Rey had this veeery uncomfortable (in a good way!), quasi-sexual tension that intrigued me to no end. The scenes between those two may well have been my favorite in the whole movie. But it certainly remains to be seen if all these newbies can actually carry a movie without any of the oldies-'n'-goodies left to play against.

But back to Carrie Fisher: It was particularly annoying that Leia spent half the movie in that weird suspended animation/healing state (and, you know, oddly chilling now that the actress is really dead), but she still had plenty of fantastic moments (I loved her line to Luke about having changed her hair--felt ad-libbed to me, made me smile big--and her back-and-forth with Poe) and I suppose this is as good a(n unintentional) send-off as any. I do wish we could have seen her and Kylo Ren directly interacting (especially after so much was made of her grief over having lost him to the dark side, both in this movie and The Force Awakens), though I imagine that was probably being saved for the last movie, so that's a bummer. In general I wonder how Leia's absence will (or won't) impact Kylo Ren's arc--he seems on the trajectory toward a Darth Vader-type, last-minute turn toward the light, but I think that will be harder to achieve now without giving him any closure with Leia. Alas...

Anyway, I really enjoyed this movie quite a lot. The battle scenes (especially the aforementioned stuff with Kylo Ren and Rey) were well-done, there were plenty of funny moments, and the acting was top-notch. For a movie that, like all movies these days, is far too long on paper (two and a half hours? Gimme a break!), my attention never really wavered, and I think that's probably a testament to the cast itself and how much chemistry exists between all these characters: I just want those plucky little rebel forces to succeed, damn it!

Of course, I do still have questions about Rey's parentage--I don't think the answer we got here was satisfactory, and it seems like sort of a red herring to me--and of course I'm nervous about how they'll handle Carrie Fisher's death, but I'd still say this movie was superior to the last one. I found myself barely missing Han Solo--which is saying a lot, because he is the fucking coolest.

Oh, and as for this:

And poor old R2-D2 did fuck all.

He did get to lay a big ol' guilt trip on Luke by showing him the footage of Leia begging Obi-Wan for help, and at least that was pretty amusing.

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Regarding Carrie:

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Her death-fake out scene could have been edited into an actual death scene,and in hindsight would have made a pretty satisfactory send-off. I don't mind too much that she managed to survive (even though that sequence was really tugging at my suspension of disbelief), but now whatever they decide to do will feel lame in comparison. What can they do? Kill her off-screen? Have her go "BRB, gonna get some cigarettes" and never return?

[Reply #60 on:]

Love is always sacrifice. 

Isn't it obvious that Star Wars is the Bible in space yet?


I probably won't see this movie for a year or so, so if anybody wants to spoiler everything in the movie for me, that would be great.

[Reply #61 on:]

I probably won't see this movie for a year or so, so if anybody wants to spoiler everything in the movie for me, that would be great.

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Luke Skywalker dies. I was so pissed off by that!

[Reply #62 on:]

Keep it coming. 

[Reply #63 on:]

I thought The Last Jedi was likable enough and I am intrigued to see what direction they will take the third film in. I don't understand the amount of hate it is getting online.

The acting, visuals, and character development were fine but there was too much contrivance ( i.e. things happening, or not happening, for no other reason than the story demanded it) in the plot for the movie to be really satisfying.

Rating: B+

[Reply #64 on:]

Saw the very first showing of TLJ at my local cinema.

3 days later, and I still can't decide how I feel about it. There were some really, really amazing & creative scenes. But there were also some really, really awful & cringey ones that felt like they were straight-out of the prequels.

The good:

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• Holdo's hyperspace-kamikaze plan. As soon as I realised what was going to happen, I leant over to my friend and just said "OOOOOOOOOH". The cinematography was incredible.
• The entire throne room sequence/Rey & Kylo vs. the Praetorian guards. Just awesome.
• Yoda! And the puppet version, not the dumb CGI.
• Crait was a cool planet, I also loved the Luke vs. Kylo fight, even if it was too short & kind of pointless (besides it being a distraction to let the others escape).
• Kylo Ren was even better than in TFA. Felt like he was more than just a whiny, emo kid in this film.

The bad:

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• Almost completely pointless Finn/Rose sideplot. The awful CGI of them riding on the fathiers. There was so little chemistry between them that her decision to save him for love & the subsequent kiss was a massive surprise to me (in a bad way).
• I thought Finn's decision to sacrifice himself was a great way to end the character's arc, but nope, Rose ruined it.
• Luke milking huge alien tits. What in the actual fuck.
• Almost every single serious scene interrupted by a joke.
• Leia floating back onto the ship. It looked cheesy as fuck & was pretty nonsensical.
• Snoke is still a complete mystery, and now he's dead.
• Rey's parents being nobodies (which may be BS, as Kylo told her this). Why did she have a vision of a shuttle abandoning her on Jakku in TFA if they were from Jakku and died there?

I probably have waaaaaaay more opinions on this movie, but I'm still trying to process it all right now. A lot happened!

[Reply #65 on:]

My brain still doesnt know what to make out of all this

motto certainly was "this is not going to go the way you think!"

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Yoda! And the puppet version, not the dumb CGI.

Okay, I'll bite: why is the puppet better than the CGI version? There's really no reason for Yoda to be a puppet besides nostalgic value. And although the prequels had a lot of terrible CGI, Yoda looked just fine.

Almost every single serious scene interrupted by a joke.

Maybe I have a terrible memory, but I honestly don't recall much of this. Have any specific examples? All I can think of is Luke throwing is lightsaber away immediately, which wasn't particularly intrusive.

Snoke is still a complete mystery, and now he's dead.

I don't mind somebody whose background is a total mystery. Since this is Star Wars though, I'm sure everything about Snoke will be unveiled via a colouring book or something. I'm glad he died; his death was one of the biggest "OH SHIT" moments in the movie. Besides, I don't exactly feel like his character ever had much promise to begin with. He just seemed like another generic Palpatine type.

Rey's parents being nobodies.

This was something I really liked. I hate the assumption that every new character has to be somehow connected to the others.

I wasn't a big fan of Rose either. Buuuut she didn't really annoy me in any way so I can put up with her as long as they don't overdo her screen time for the next one.

[Reply #67 on:]

Did you just unspoiled somebody else's spoilers? :3

Edit:. Nevermind, I'm wrong.  Kept original post to admit wrongness.

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Regarding Carrie:

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My money's on her dying in the opening crawl. It'll be crap, but remember that J.J. Abrams is directing the 9th one.

As for Danny's post:

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3 days later, and I still can't decide how I feel about it. There were some really, really amazing & creative scenes. But there were also some really, really awful & cringey ones that felt like they were straight-out of the prequels.

I admit that there were some horrendous moments and elements, but I can say that about every single Star Wars movie made since the first one. I didn't think this one had particularly more than any of the others.

The good:

• Yoda! And the puppet version, not the dumb CGI.

Whilst I'm generally all for practical effects, I thought Yoda looked pretty shit in this film. They just can't seem to make the guy look not stupid. It didn't help that I wasn't a fan of his scene in general. If being a force ghost means that you can just come back and interact with characters and the world when you feel like it, that completely undermines the stakes of death within this universe. Let's just have Luke swanning around as a ghost leader of the rebels in the next film.

• Kylo Ren was even better than in TFA. Felt like he was more than just a whiny, emo kid in this film.

He was completely shit in The Force Awakens whereas he was actually good here.

The bad:

• Luke milking huge alien tits. What in the actual fuck.

That might be my favourite part of the film.

• Almost every single serious scene interrupted by a joke.

I'd also put that in the positive category, personally.

• Leia floating back onto the ship. It looked cheesy as fuck & was pretty nonsensical.

Yeah, as much as I liked the film, this might be the worst part of any Star Wars movie to date.

• Snoke is still a complete mystery, and now he's dead.

Good. Snoke was shit in The Force Awakens. I don't care about him. He was well-performed and fun in The Last Jedi, but he's still just another Emperor. I don't care about his back story. It's boring. I'm glad they got rid of him swiftly.

[Reply #69 on:]

I think I'm beginning to like your opinions a lot cyber_turnip.  You actually do seem to have good (almost objective, if not objective) reasoning behind your tastes.  I think.

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Thanks!

[Reply #71 on:]

I finally saw this movie on Monday, and came into this thread expecting so much toxicity...so kudos on not fulfilling those expectations. I’ll have some thoughts soon I guess.

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We're not all asholes, Josh. 

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I am not a true Star Wars fan.

That's okay.

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• Snoke is still a complete mystery, and now he's dead.

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Remember the legend of the apprentice of Darth Plagueis, the Wise... perhaps the apprentice can save himself from death, though his master could not do the same

[Reply #76 on:]

‘Solo’ Locks In Key ‘Star Wars’ Veteran (EXCLUSIVE)

‘Solo’ will stay in the ‘Star Wars’ family with veteran franchise composer John Williams set to write the theme for the standalone film about Han Solo, slated for release on May 25. It will be Williams’ ninth assignment.

[Reply #77 on:]

I'm glad Harrison Ford still gets work.  Can't wait for American Graffitti 2.

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You mean American Graffiti 3.

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Well, that was quick.