Beamer
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I think direct to video should count as long as it's not an actual episode of the show just rereleased like imaginationland
Doing my research, as the original intention of the Futurama movies were actually Direct-To-Video movies that were later split into four TV episodes, I'll allow them in lists.
I dunno, each movie's credits lists the production codes of 4 episodes, and the collective of the four movies is regarded both by fans and the show's staff as the fifth season. They may have been released as dvd movies before being broadcast that way, but as far as things go behind the scenes, they definitely weren't produced like movies. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Futurama_%28season_5%29(I understand if you allow them, but on a Futurama forum, there's undoubtedly going to be a bit of bias towards them in the overall rankings - just felt it was worth considering.)
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AdrenalinDragon
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« Reply #41 on: 03-10-2015 02:13 »
« Last Edit on: 03-10-2015 02:36 »
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I think direct to video should count as long as it's not an actual episode of the show just rereleased like imaginationland
Doing my research, as the original intention of the Futurama movies were actually Direct-To-Video movies that were later split into four TV episodes, I'll allow them in lists.
I dunno, each movie's credits lists the production codes of 4 episodes, and the collective of the four movies is regarded both by fans and the show's staff as the fifth season. They may have been released as dvd movies before being broadcast that way, but as far as things go behind the scenes, they definitely weren't produced like movies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Futurama_%28season_5%29
(I understand if you allow them, but on a Futurama forum, there's undoubtedly going to be a bit of bias towards them in the overall rankings - just felt it was worth considering.)
That was my main concern with having them being listed. I am aware PEEL is a Futurama forum, and I don't know how much weight they will bring to the overall rankings. If it were me personally, I wouldn't allow them. Technically they are animated movies, but as you say, Season 5 is 16 TV episodes split into four movies. Tough call, again rather indecisive of me, but Beamer has made my stance on not including them in the final lists for sure now. Don't get mad at me guys. I should have set the rules in the first post clearly, but I am going to say not to include Futurama movies in your lists. I think the results will be much better.
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cyber_turnip
Urban Legend
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« Reply #42 on: 03-10-2015 11:36 »
« Last Edit on: 03-10-2015 13:11 »
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Personally, I'd go purely on the distinction of whether straight-to-video releases are allowed or not.
The Futurama movies aren't repackaged episodes in the same way that Imaginationland was. They were originally released as movies, so if anything, the episodes were the repackaging.
They were produced to work as both in tandem, but I always got the sense that the crew were more focused on making them work as films that making them work as episodes - that being said, they still had to fit the ad-break and timing structure of four individual episodes, so it had a large impact on how they turned out.
I don't think bias should be a problem here. If anything, we should embrace bias as this is PEEL's list. I mean, similarly, we're likely to be biased towards The Simpsons Movie and you could argue that we're going to be biased in favour of films based on animated sitcoms in general given that we're all established fans of those kinds of shows.
Anyway, none of the Futurama films make my top 10 anyway, so it doesn't affect me.
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Beamer
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You can order movies via a number of services these days - Netflix, Amazon, or even just your local Redbox.
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Beamer
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Quite a few of mine got in the top 10, so I'm pretty happy! I'm rather surprised to see how high Bigger, Longer and Uncut ranked on the overall list, but it's a pleasant surprise. I'd still consider Toy Story 3 to be Pixar's best work, but Up and Wall-E would be very close behind it for me. I also wanted to say that this was a great idea for a thread, AdrenalinDragon. The work you've put into this is truly admirable.
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Tachyon
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Yes, great job, Dragon!
I was also surprised by how high WALL-E made it. It's a fun and enjoyable film, but it didn't connect that strongly with me on an emotional level.
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Beamer
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I'm actually surprised Ratatouille didn't get a single nomination, though.
It almost made it in mine, but the last few on my list are all very closely-ranked for me. I'd probably put it at #11.
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cyber_turnip
Urban Legend
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Ratatouille is my 17th favourite animated film (16th if you exclude straight-to-video movies), so it would have made the list if we did a top 20. If anybody cares, here's my incredibly self-indulgent, personal top 50: 50. The Brave Little Toaster 49. Beauty and the Beast 48. Kung Fu Panda 47. Who Framed Roger Rabbit 46. Winnie the Pooh 45. Peter Pan 44. The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie 43. Futurama: Into the Wild Green Yonder 42. Summer Wars 41. The Great Mouse Detective 40. When the Wind Blows 39. Cars 38. Monsters University 37. Frozen 36. Futurama: Bender's Game 35. Futurama: The Beast with a Billion Backs 34. Wreck-It Ralph 33. The Illusionist 32. The Princess and the Frog 31. Puss in Boots 30. Dumbo 29. Rango 28. Alice in Wonderland 27. Toy Story 2 26. Shaun the Sheep Movie 25. Shrek 24. The Simpsons Movie 23. Big Hero 6 22. 9 21. A Goofy Movie 20. Beavis and Butt-Head Do America 19. Toy Story 3 18. Persepolis 17. Ratatouille 16. Frankenweenie 15. Futurama: Bender's Big Score 14. The Plague Dogs 13. Monsters, Inc. 12. Wall-E 11. Aladdin 10. The Incredibles 9. Wallace & Gromit in 'The Curse of the Were-Rabbit' 8. Grave of the Fireflies 7. Barefoot Gen 6. Up 5. The Lion King 4. Toy Story 3. The Nightmare Before Christmas 2. South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut 1. The Iron Giant My top 10 is really similar to that of the group, so I'm happy with the outcome.
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