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CyberKnight
Urban Legend
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« Reply #81 on: 04-13-2003 02:04 »
« Last Edit on: 05-12-2004 00:00 »
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Originally posted by kip: - Enterprise - Voy - DS9 - TOS - TNG
No, no, no - you've got it upside down . Anyway, to each his own - and I liked "Future's End", too (Season Three episode, before it became the Seven of Nine show). What I'll be interested to see is what this "big change" coming up in Enterprise is. DS9, Voyager and TNG were all changed at some point in their run (and Voyager and TNG was definitely somewhere around their third seasons) - Voyager's the only one it didn't work for.
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kip
Professor
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Bring on Farscape bebe. TNG can go where no series has gone before... to hell! mwhahahahah *oh crap... here comes the flames... *
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TheLesbianLeela
Liquid Emperor
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A hurray for DS9 That's science-fiction, how I love it: politics, strange cultures, sociological ideas, a real storry which takes more than just one episode to be done ... Cardassia, Bajor, Section 32, Garak, Gul Dukat, the Dominion, the Breel, the Romulans, etc ... Damar & Ziyal Kira "Leela from DS9" Nerys :love
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Grim
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Well those of you that knew me as a DS9 hater will now be glad that I have been converted. Since I had all the TNG DVD sets, I thought hey it cant hurt, I'll buy DS9 season 1 and see how I go. DS9 was the series I had seen the least of and from what I had seen on 12am time slot they have it here, it kept sending me to sleep, but after watching them in the right frame of mind and when I'm not half asleep they are quite good. Kudos to it!
Of course I'll be buying the Voyager sets first, but when I have the spare cash I will hopefully fill out the rest of my DS9 collection
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nerdlingus
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I'm one of the minority in that I prefer the original series in all its 60's cheesiness. I'm not sure why, I guess I got bored of the 1001 things the crew in the other series always seem to have an explanation - "If we re-route the positron matrix..." etc... Also my dad has every episode on VHS and has for about 10-12 years. Also the original crew are tops when it comes to the films as well, I can't stand TNG's film, there like elongated episodes (except for Patrick Stewart as he is a good actor).
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nerdlingus
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Yeah, I agree, VOY was shit, strange how it ended up like that as it started with a good premise being stuck in the delta quadrant, but for me, it didn't quite stand up after the 2nd season.
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Bushmeister
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It's tricky to choose between DS9 and TNG, but I'll probably go for the latter. It was my first series and the one I could talk about the most (when I was about 9 my class teacher was a big TNG fan, it was quite interesting to talk about it with him).
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Gocad
Space Pope
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Originally posted by TheLesbianLeela: A hurray for DS9 That's science-fiction, how I love it: politics, strange cultures, sociological ideas, a real storry which takes more than just one episode to be done ... Cardassia, Bajor, Section 31, Garak, Gul Dukat, the Dominion, the Breen, the Romulans, etc ... Damar & Ziyal Kira "Leela from DS9" Nerys :love wow, a sociologist who likes DS9? which is why I will forgive you the mistakes which you made in your post...
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SlackJawedMoron
Urban Legend
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Heck, I've only seen a few Epsiodes of TNG, including the finale, and even I love Q. Picard's also completly awesome. I love it when he goes off Shakespeare<sp?> style. Also, First Contact was groovy. (And that's all I'll say about the TNG movies ). Alas, my exposure to Star Trek of late has been a bit lacking, due to access only to free-to-air TV, very late night showings, and uni timetables that require me to get up annoyingly early in the morning. I caught the last of DS9, which seemed pretty good (what can I say, I'm a sucker for long and well connected story arcs). It seemed to be getting a little fantastical by the end... though, being Star Trek, I'm sure there was a good scientific explantion behind it all. Seen only the first series of Voyager. Going by popular opinion, I guess that was fortunate. Seen a tiny bit of Enterprise, and got right royally pissed off when The Borg turned up for no good reason. Got further pissed off when the ship's docter 'cured' himself of Borg-ishness with the technology of the day. Never seen TOS, cept for "The Menagerie." Which it turns out was just enough for me to appreciate "Where No Fan Has Gone Before" even more. Did see one episode of TAS. "Captain, the walls are made of anti-matter. If the ship touches them... it will explode." So yeah. Go TNG!
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Lurrr
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TNG still rules in my book. I got the third season on DVD a few months ago and after watching the whole thing I was just struck dumb. I had forgotten how well-written it was, and realised there was nothing today that could match it. B5 and Farscape have comes close, but they were very different shows. No Star Trek series has ever matched TNG for me.
TOS and DS9 tend to occupy the same space for me- sometime I like them, sometimes I don't. DS9's problem is that it veered dramatically from what Star Trek was about (not that it was a bad thing per se) and I couldn't help comparing it to B5. But after about the fifth season I couldn't stand to watch it anymore, except for the final episode which had me cringing.
Voyager and Enterprise will not be mentioned. They are the reason Star Trek should have been put out of it's misery.
Now, where's my flame-retardant anorak...
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Nasty Pasty
DOOP Secretary
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DS9 is by far the best series. I loved the characters and the more stationary environment of the show. And the Dominion War was one hell of a bonus too.
By overall i prefer the 10 Star Trek movies to the series' anyday.
KHANNNNNNNN!!!
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Grim
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I dont know what everyone's problem is with Voyager, there's nothing wrong with it really. When I heard about it I expected a B grade version of the TNG crew and thats what we got, accept it for what it is damn it!
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Nasty Pasty
DOOP Secretary
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I respect you liking Futurama, but Star Wars can suck my ass. Fucking George Lucas.
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~FazeShift~
Moderator
DOOP Ubersecretary
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« Reply #106 on: 05-15-2004 22:26 »
« Last Edit on: 05-15-2004 22:26 »
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I think I've liked different series at different stages, first TNG when I was a early-teen, then Voyager when it came out, then realising DS9 kicked its ass, I settled on that! It's more Space Opera-ish, with the big battles towards the end. I never got into TOS. Edit: I seemed to like Enterprise on the last page, but now I think it's "Meh".
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Teral
Helpy McHelphelp
DOOP Secretary
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« Reply #108 on: 05-16-2004 15:27 »
« Last Edit on: 05-16-2004 15:27 »
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Originally posted by Nasty Pasty: DS9 is by far the best series. I loved the characters and the more stationary environment of the show. And the Dominion War was one hell of a bonus too.
By overall i prefer the 10 Star Trek movies to the series' anyday.
KHANNNNNNNN!!! Sure some of the movies were awesome, but don't forget when you pick "The Wrath of Khan", "First Contact" and "The Voyage Home" you also get: "Genesis" ::Nasty Pasty screams:: "The Final Frontier" ::Nasty Pasty screams:: and "The Search For Spock" ::Nasty Pasty looks at Teral:: ::Teral nods:: ::Nasty Pasty screams:: by Grim: I dont know what everyone's problem is with Voyager, there's nothing wrong with it really. When I heard about it I expected a B grade version of the TNG crew and thats what we got, accept it for what it is damn it! [Farnsworth]NO![/Farnsworth] If I do that, I also have to accept "The Final Frontier" for what it is. When I think of V'Ger to phrases spring to mind "lost potential" and "Reset Button". That's not to say some of the individual episodes were downright awesome and very enjoyable, but overall the series was a disappointment. For a more extensive rant look back at page 1.
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Lurrr
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and "The Search For Spock" ::Nasty Pasty looks at Teral:: ::Teral nods:: ::Nasty Pasty screams:: I like 'The Search For Spock'. Okay, it isn't great but it's certainly better than the rest of the crap with the Star Trek name attached. When I think of V'Ger to phrases spring to mind "lost potential" and "Reset Button". I also think 'magical Borg technology', i.e. Kim: Captain! The Hirogen (or whatever) are attacking! What do we do? Janeway: Use the [GENERIC INDECIHERABLE TECHNOBABBLE] that Seven of Nine invented this morning while I get a cup of coffee. Every time a new bit of technology appeared in the show it just seemed like it was only there so the writers didn't have think of an intelligent alternative. And quite frankly, by the end of the series Voyager could take on just about anything (for god's sake, they already defeated Species 8472 and the Borg!). Which reminds me: Borg= crutch. Species 8472 + Caretaker/Suspiria= wasted oppurtunities.
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ZombieJesus
Lost Belgian
DOOP Secretary
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To me species 8472 looked too much of an Alien-ripoff.
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Teral
Helpy McHelphelp
DOOP Secretary
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Originally posted by Lurrr: I like 'The Search For Spock'. Okay, it isn't great but it's certainly better than the rest of the crap with the Star Trek name attached. True, it wasn't as terrible as "The Final Frontier", but Kirk's melodramatic fight with Kruge made me cringe. Robyn Curtis was pretty horrible as Saavik (Kirstie Alley is the real Saavik). However I did enjoy one of the last scenes when Spock ask Kirk why they risked their own lifes (and careers) just to save his. Kirk replies "Sometimes the needs of the one - outweigh the needs of the many." Spock lifts his eyebrow in his characteristic manner, recognise his friends irrationel, human logic and respond: "Jim! Your name is Jim." That was a really well done scene. I also think 'magical Borg technology', i.e. Kim: Captain! The Hirogen (or whatever) are attacking! What do we do? Janeway: Use the [GENERIC INDECIHERABLE TECHNOBABBLE] that Seven of Nine invented this morning while I get a cup of coffee.
Like the tech thBorg use to revivie dead drones. Honestly if you had the technology to revive dead crewmembers, would you use it on Neelix, or turn your attention to more important matters, like selecting the right flavour of donut? For me the biggest waste of potential was the disappearence of any trace of tension between the Starfleet and Maquis crew.
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Mercapto
Professor
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Voyager may not have been that great of a series, but I really liked the holo-doctor. Sadly, he was just about the only interesting character on that show.
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Nasty Pasty
DOOP Secretary
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Originally posted by Mercapto: Voyager may not have been that great of a series, but I really liked the holo-doctor. Sadly, he was just about the only interesting character on that show. BAM! 7 of 9. Gigity gigity gigity OH!!
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~FazeShift~
Moderator
DOOP Ubersecretary
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He was in Men in Black too, and he freaks the pudding out of me!! *imagines what'd happen if he met Jeri Ryan* Hell yeah, the "sex offender" title would so be worth it!!
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