Star Wars: The Thread Strikes Back

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BTW.. the wreckage the Falcon enters at the end of the teaser chased by a new TIE .. seems that its actually an upside down crashed Executor class SuperStar Destroyer:

Could be the actual Executor. If enough of the superstructure de-orbited relatively intact as the Death Star II went to pieces, then it might have landed on Endor in large chunks. Which we know from various internet nerds would have undergone a cataclysmic upheaval following the battle of Endor, and could very well have been transformed into a desert world.

Maybe the Ewoks have gone Mad Max, too. But they're probably all dead.

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Maybe the Ewoks have gone Mad Max, too. But they're probably all dead.

Mad Max Furry Road

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BTW.. the wreckage the Falcon enters at the end of the teaser chased by a new TIE .. seems that its actually an upside down crashed Executor class SuperStar Destroyer:

Could be the actual Executor. If enough of the superstructure de-orbited relatively intact as the Death Star II went to pieces, then it might have landed on Endor in large chunks. Which we know from various internet nerds would have undergone a cataclysmic upheaval following the battle of Endor, and could very well have been transformed into a desert world.

Maybe the Ewoks have gone Mad Max, too. But they're probably all dead.

hehehehe dead Ewoks.. i like that

well more seriously it cant be the actual executor.. it was disintigrated against the DeathStar wich later blew up..

but there was still many executor class dreadnoughts arround... this actually is a nice hint at how the war continued afterwards

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Han Solo now canonically has a wife

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Could be the actual Executor. If enough of the superstructure de-orbited relatively intact as the Death Star II went to pieces, then it might have landed on Endor in large chunks. Which we know from various internet nerds would have undergone a cataclysmic upheaval following the battle of Endor, and could very well have been transformed into a desert world.

Theoretically, the front could have desintegrated, blowing the back section off to crash on a planet.
Yet, I doubt so: The fireball was too big to suggest big remaining pieces of debris. Also, George Lucas has confirmed the Star Wars films being formulaic in regards to death and destruction, and compared them to old TV series. When you see a villain falling down an abyss to disappear (without seing an actual body), (s)he is likely to have survived for a later return. He mentioned that as reason why Darth Maul had to be cut in half, the Emperor did end in a blue explosion, etc... Stating: > Look, they ARE toast, no way they will make it back. While he hinted at Boba Fett being very probable to survive the Sarlac (was swallowed alive, he was not bitten to pieces, he had an armor and lots of tools to cut his way out, etc... ).
Well..the fireball covered ALL of the Executor, which heavily comes across as a statement that ALL of the ship got vaporised.

Now, Lucas is out, and Disney is creating the Star Wars movies. It's okay to pretend things like the Gungans never existed. But if Disney does have the slightest, tiniest buttload of respect for the old, glorious, revered classics, they will stay to the classic, formulaic death rules mentioned by George Lucas.

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The fireball was too big to suggest big remaining pieces of debris.

The fireball needn't have destroyed the ship. I mean, it'd have to have been pretty damn hot to melt the metal superstructure. Might just have oxidised the surface.

But you're probably right, it was meant to show that the SSD was toast, so I suppose there's little chance it'll be retconned as a survivor of the battle even by as much as crashing on Endor.

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I know some fans wished at least Piett somehow survived, in one way or another (even as a clone or something). He was always my favourite Imperial too.

But yeah I don't think that's the Executor, (just to state the obvious). I base this largely on the trailer for Battlefront that has, besides Boba Fett front, centre and fricking awesome,  the crashed Star Destroyer from the film trailer in the background actually crashing. I think it's all supposed to be taking part on the totally-not-Tatooine planet of Jakku, so it's totally not Endor and totally not the original Executor, so it's a nice nod, as Javier said, to the war continuing on afterwards.

On the subject of the Executor exploding, I've always prefered this cutscene from X-Wing Alliance over how the film actually depicted the ship's demise.

https://youtu.be/EgaZm4aAQcQ

Probably flawed in its own way, and would not fit in with the flow of the film, but for a relatively-cheap/simple CG-job it looks better. IMO.

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I know some fans wished at least Piett somehow survived, in one way or another (even as a clone or something). He was always my favourite Imperial too.

Met him once at a convention. Was a nice guy (also, not one of the "My career faltered after Star Wars, so I have to play the clown for some nerd kids and pretend I like it" fraction, which always gave one an uneasy feeling. He was a rather pleasant "down-to-Earth" fella).  

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Today I was reminded that A Phantom Edit exists. So, I watched it again.

It's not a bad illustration of the fact that you can cut out most of the first and two thirds each of the second and third prequel films and not lose a single important plot point. Plenty of minor shit gets dropped, and ultimately the whole thing comes in at under two hours - it's definitely as much a showcase of what the prequels got right as what they got wrong, too. Lots of the better CGI shots are shown for at least a second or two, and a couple of deleted scenes help to enhance some of the story that was actually cut from the films.

It's actually got me looking forward to the new movie. A little. I mean, it's got to be better than the prequels, and it'll hopefully be completely free of Jar-Jars.

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Practical effects & stuff!

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I remember seeing the Phantom Menace trailer for the first time as a 16-or-whatever year old and feeling something was worng about it.  I don't know if it was something about the trailer itself or something that eventually turned out to be wrong when I watched the movie 15-or-whatever years later, but it didn't move me to want to see it.  There was no reason for me not to want to see it, either.  My love of the original movies didn't really start until the Special Edition.  Despite being a round-trip passenger on the hype train engineered by Lucasfilm, I was left a bit cold by the Phantom Menace trailer.

But that's not happening with this new movie.  Obviously circumstances have changed.  I'm a slightly different person than I was when I was in high school, and the people promoting the new movie are a bit wiser about the franchise's history.  They know enough about the complaints about the prequel movies to build their own hype train to capitalize on some of the differences from the prequels and similarities to the originals.  However, I am also a bit wiser—and if not wiser, jaded—about how the new movies will fit in to the grand scheme of things.  This movie is penetrating that cynicism or wisdom, and I kind of like it.

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i really hope you are right...

they are pushing the right buttons so far... some stuff i dont like but its more like personal opinion on some matters..not that the move itself is wrong...

but the rest... seems right

still i have had 3 massive dissapointments in 6 years run... granted is really hard to make worst that that ..but im cautious

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I wonder who the new character for comedic relief will be.  Jar jar was nice, but I don't feel enough time has passed for more ewoks.  That's just my personal opinion, so I'm okay.

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Today I was reminded that A Phantom Edit exists. So, I watched it again.

There's also "A Last Hope" and "Turn to The Dark Side" similar edits, each have their own bits and pieces left in/cut out.

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Do you possess descriptions of the edits?

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I know it's prequel stuff, but this is a fantastic song about the Emperor's corruption of Anakin Skywalker.

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Do you possess descriptions of the edits?

Not from a Jedi....
Nah, but they have the major story beats, and both started with the Qui Gonn + Obi Wan vs. Darth Maul duel, so kid-Anakin and Jar Jar were pleasantly absent

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I just watched A Phantom Edit as something to pass the time while ironing and I'd say it's a much better way to enjoy the prequels. I'm saddened by the lack of Christopher Lee, but you win some, you lose some. The choice of ending shot  (with credits extra) is just perfect.

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A teaser released in Korea with a small new rather interesting (for eye candy.. not many spoilers at all) scene added right at the start:

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17 Things We Just Learned About Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Updated)

Lots of info there about Kylo Ren.

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I've only been dipping into this thread for brief, fleeting sips of news.  Just enough to keep me excited for the release but not enough to "spoil" me.

It's true that I'm not nearly as excited for this instalment as I was for The Empire Strikes Back, but I'm still pretty stoked!

Tiny spoiler:

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Luke kills Vader, but when he removes Vader's mask he discovers to his horror that his father is not actually Anakin, but Jar-Jar Binks.

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Luke kills Vader, but when he removes Vader's mask he discovers to his horror that his father is not actually Anakin, but Jar-Jar Binks.

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YOU MONSTER!!!

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Luke kills Vader, but when he removes Vader's mask he discovers to his horror that his father is not actually Anakin, but Jar-Jar Binks.

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YOU MONSTER!!!

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"No, Luke: Meeza' your father!"

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Finn has a lightsaber.



(Sorry for the poor quality, the clip was uploaded on Instagram. )

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Can you image what would happen if in 1979/1980 someone would had leaked a photo of this:



i
It would be crazy with people saying Han Solo would became a Jedi

still anyway im avoiding spoilers as possible..,. Finn has a saber? ok he might be a force user,a Jedi student (i refuse to use padawan) beginner or just had picked the saber ... tought he is in the official promotional poster (for now) with a saber so....

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It would be crazy with people saying Han Solo would became a Jedi

Although he's wearing such thick clothing you can barely tell it's him from that photo.

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Rebels  season 2  teaser:

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My eyes went wide open at 0:28

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YES.. AT LAST!
Interdictors are now canon ladies and gentlemen

Also we are getting B-Wings ..or at least early prototypes

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aparently final The force awakens trailer will come out next monday

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New trailer will be out tomorrow night in the US, airs during some sport thing. Parts of it are leaking online already, though.

Here's the new poster (note the new superweapon/Death Star!):



Also, the complete lack of Luke.

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I love the way the girl's staff lines up with the lightsaber.

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Ya, that thing is weird. Like a lightsaber shield or something? Doesn't seem like it would be very effective as a weapon.

Edit: Oh. Ooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhh [/stupidity]

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Wait wait wait...another freaking Death Star?  I admire the devotion to the concept, but at some point aren't military planners going to try something that a ragtag group of fighter pilots aren't going to be able to destroy by exploiting some comparatively tiny but actually huge security problem?

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As long as they keep making the holes bigger. Maybe another Death Star will fit through a hole in this new Death Star.

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Yo, Dog.  I heard you got a death Star in your Death Star.

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This time maybe Ackbar can fly his calamary cruiser to the core and back.. i would totally aplause that

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I admire the devotion to the concept, but at some point aren't military planners going to try something that a ragtag group of fighter pilots aren't going to be able to destroy by exploiting some comparatively tiny but actually huge security problem?

Maybe this time the plan will be to file directly into the death cannon, clogging it with wreckage?

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Well if thats actually a death-star type superweapon i hope they are smart enought to leave its destruction to a later movie.. otherwise this would became a faxcimil of the OT pretty much like Lucas clond ANH with TPM..

but that wouldnt explain why is in the poster.. wich hints it playing a big role

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I didn't notice it in the trailer, though.  Maybe I was just too excited about the Canadian election results to notice.

But I did see a lot of holes in the trailer.

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As long as they keep making the holes bigger. Maybe another Death Star will fit through a hole in this new Death Star.

But if the series progresses in this way, the next Death Star will have a hole so impossibly big that an even larger Death Star could pass through it.  The very fabric of space and time would need to be warped into some sort of Death Black Hole.  One would think a regular black hole would be sufficiently deadly.

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There's a lot to take in from that new trailer!

I'm very intrigued by Kylo Ren, I want to know more about his character. A lot of people have been talking about the lack of Luke in the trailers/poster, however, there has also been a complete lack of General Hux & Supreme Leader Snoke (Domhnall Gleeson & Andy Serkis) shown in promotional material. I don't believe we have seen Lupita Nyong'o's character yet, either.

I suppose you've got to save some surprises for the film itself!