Sequels and Prequels and Remakes, Oh My! (Upcoming Films)

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So I should watch it with the sound off, jamming '80s New Wave in the background?

Is that a bad idea for anything?

[Reply #721 on:]

Thor 2

I really enjoyed this. Did exactly what it said on the tin. It doesn't try to be high art and succeeds as entertainment all the way. It's nice to switch off for 2 hours and that's just what this film helped me to do.

Also I peaked at the teaser at the end. I suspected we'd be getting this particular story after seeing

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Thanos

at the end of Avengers Assemble but I think it can now be guaranteed.

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Also I peaked at the teaser at the end.

Do you mean that you peeked, or did you actually experience sexual climax in the middle of a crowded movie theater?

I can agree somewhat with this review of Thor 2, but there were a couple of lines that bugged me. The one that set the lifespan of the Asgardians at 5,000 years, for example. That was un-necessary. The repeated line regarding the consequences of betrayal felt milked by the time that Loki actually delivered a respectable comeback. Small niggles like this were what detracted from the overall experience, and I feel duty-bound to complain about these tiniest of details despite having enjoyed the film - otherwise, what sort of total nerd would I be?

What I really enjoyed was seeing Thor and Loki dupe Christopher Eccleston (I forget the name of his character. Sounds like Malachi, but it's just not coming to me) together. That was for me, the highlight of the film (and of course, the scene at the end where Thor is talking to the King of Asgard). The film was very well done overall, and it's hopefully a sign of awesomeness to come in The Avengers 2, and Thor 3.

Edit: Malkieth. That's the name of Eccleston's character. I was unable to think of anything but "Malachi" for a few moments, and then I thought of "Malkier" (Tai'shar!), which was closer... and finally, I remembered the name "Malkieth".

[Reply #723 on:]

Pretty much Shark.  The scene was done to set up the next Marvel movie The Guardians of the Galaxy.

You are probably mistaken tnuk.  Avengers 2 will deal with Ultron.  Thor 3 will deal the "King" of Asgard situation and Avengers 3 with tie up all of the movies into a huge cosmic story.

I have been a huge Marvel fan for the past 30 years.  You can count on my predictions to be correct.

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They still have to establish at least 3 infinity gems.  The Guardians of the Galaxy might give us 1 or 2 but not all.  The tesseract is the Space gem.  It has been confirmed by Kevin Feige.  The Aether is the Power gem and we saw the Mind gem in the Avengers.  It was given to Loki by Thanos and it was in Loki's staff.  Hence the mind control that Loki had.

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As someone who has grown up with stories about Valhalla (the actual ones), Marvel's Thor will always seem incredibly lame to me.

And I cannot stop thinking about that when I watch the film.  So that automatically ruins the film for me.

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As someone who has grown up with stories about Valhalla (the actual ones), Marvel's Thor will always seem incredibly lame to me.

Marvel's Thor is actually a pretty decent stab at bringing the comic books to life, but I have to admit that the comic books are a pretty poor substitute for the actual Norse legends. Still, it does make much more sense to play it the way that Marvel are doing for today's particular target audiences.

But a film about the "real" Thor would be awesome. Right up until the part where Thor is killed by Jormungandr, collapsing at the moment of his victory. That wouldn't go over very well with today's viewers. They tend to expect protagonists to survive, etc.

[Reply #726 on:]

Are you sure?  Game of Thrones is doing well with modern audience.

With Marvel's Thor I am actually thinking of the comic books (which I believe was published by Marvel).

But instead of focusing on Thor, I think they should just focus on Valhalla in general.  Or some other specific aspect.  There is a Danish comic series called Valhalla which is a lot more true to the original myths, although modified.  I can recommend this comic series, if they exist in English translations.

Edit: Hmm... turns out there isn't a English translation available.  But they exist in all other Germanic languages.

[Reply #727 on:]

As someone who has grown up with stories about Valhalla (the actual ones), Marvel's Thor will always seem incredibly lame to me.

And I cannot stop thinking about that when I watch the film.  So that automatically ruins the film for me.

If you want to read some good stories about Marvel's Thor I would recommend getting Walt Simonson's Omnibus run on Thor.  His ragnarok story is close to the myths but pretty good and near the end of run Thor fights the Midgard Serpent and the issue is nothing but full panel fight scenes.  It is EPIC.

Here is a link for it.

http://www.amazon.com/Thor-Walter-Simonson-Omnibus/dp/0785146334/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1384982394&sr=8-4&keywords=the+mighty+thor+walt+simonson

It is something I would love to have but I have all the issues individually.  I bought them as they hit the stands.

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Are you sure?  Game of Thrones is doing well with modern audience.

A TV series in which people die off as fast as they're introduced is a little different to a feature film in which almost everybody is dead at the end.

With Marvel's Thor I am actually thinking of the comic books (which I believe was published by Marvel).

Did... did you... did you just call comic books... lame?

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With Marvel's Thor I am actually thinking of the comic books (which I believe was published by Marvel).

Did... did you... did you just call comic books... lame?

No, just the Marvel's Thor comic books.  I did in fact recommend a comic book series for you!

If you want to read some good stories about Marvel's Thor I would recommend getting Walt Simonson's Omnibus run on Thor.  His ragnarok story is close to the myths but pretty good and near the end of run Thor fights the Midgard Serpent and the issue is nothing but full panel fight scenes.  It is EPIC.

Here is a link for it.

http://www.amazon.com/Thor-Walter-Simonson-Omnibus/dp/0785146334/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1384982394&sr=8-4&keywords=the+mighty+thor+walt+simonson

It is something I would love to have but I have all the issues individually.  I bought them as the hit the stands.

Ugh, that Thor characterisation on the cover.  That has already turned me off.

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Also I peaked at the teaser at the end.

Do you mean that you peeked, or did you actually experience sexual climax in the middle of a crowded movie theater?

Actually, I was using either a drug or mountaineering reference to describe my experience of watching the bit during the credits. I did not take a "sneaky peek" at the teaser from the corridor whilst exiting the cinema. I sat there waiting for it and made exasperated comments to Aimée about the oblivious people who were exiting and shuffling passed us.

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Did... did you... did you just call comic books... lame?

Just Marvel comic books.

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Did... did you... did you just call comic books... lame?

Just Marvel comic books.

Might as well be all of them then. It's most of the major ones (with a couple of huge exceptions).

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With Marvel's Thor I am actually thinking of the comic books (which I believe was published by Marvel).

Did... did you... did you just call comic books... lame?

No, just the Marvel's Thor comic books.  I did in fact recommend a comic book series for you!

If you want to read some good stories about Marvel's Thor I would recommend getting Walt Simonson's Omnibus run on Thor.  His ragnarok story is close to the myths but pretty good and near the end of run Thor fights the Midgard Serpent and the issue is nothing but full panel fight scenes.  It is EPIC.

Here is a link for it.

http://www.amazon.com/Thor-Walter-Simonson-Omnibus/dp/0785146334/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1384982394&sr=8-4&keywords=the+mighty+thor+walt+simonson

It is something I would love to have but I have all the issues individually.  I bought them as the hit the stands.

Ugh, that Thor characterisation on the cover.  That has already turned me off.

That's a shame.  His art does take a little bit to enjoy but the whole story is well worth getting.

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Perhaps.  But I already have the stories.  So I would really be buying it for the art.

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The stories are pretty much the same but different too.  When I saw this panel about 30 years ago I literally got goose bumps.

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I'd expect Odin to have a bigger face.

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And laughed when I saw this:

Thor the Frog of Thunder



Loki cast a spell that turned Thor into a frog.

One last on of Thor and The Midgard Serpent.

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Thor never wore a cape.

[Reply #739 on:]

Didn't he wear a cloak that was similar to a cape when his hammer was stolen and he pretended to be Freya in order to get it back?

[Reply #740 on:]

Does my **** turn blue when I hold it really tight for awhile?

Speed Racer has some of the coolest visuals I've seen in any movie...but ya, the story and acting is absolutely atrocious to the point that it detracts from the visuals.

I don't remember the story or the acting.  But I do recall it having Christina Ricci and Susan Sarandon in it, however you spell their names.  That and the colors were wonderful.  I could probably pull up posts from the only time I ever watched it... if I wanted to.

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Are you sure?  Game of Thrones is doing well with modern audience.

With Marvel's Thor I am actually thinking of the comic books (which I believe was published by Marvel).

But instead of focusing on Thor, I think they should just focus on Valhalla in general.  Or some other specific aspect.  There is a Danish comic series called Valhalla which is a lot more true to the original myths, although modified.  I can recommend this comic series, if they exist in English translations.

Edit: Hmm... turns out there isn't a English translation available.  But they exist in all other Germanic languages.

Can you please scan and translate to english all copies of this comics, then save as images, zipping them in a zip file and changing the extension from .zip to .cbz then also send them to me in whatever method is easiest for me so that you can read them to me when you come visit to read them to me before bed.  k thx bai!

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Went to see Thor 2 today.

Yup. That's pretty much all I have to say. Just, yup.

My villain complex was happy.

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^I know right, Bitchy-Comments-Loki is the best Loki.

So I just watched a snuck-in-the-camera Con-trailer for The Amazing Spider-Man 2. The quality wasn't too bad just small but from that, I liked it. There was something really simple about all of it (as far as Electro's storyarc is seeming to go). I also like and forgot that Gwen Stacey was never a huge fan of Spider-Man and they're applying that to her character here (seriously though why couldn't Emma Stone just be Spider-Man? She's the best part of the first movie). As to whether or not she dies in this one, I don't really care. I mean it seems like the reason she's such a famous character is because she died and that's because the writer's originally didn't know what to do with her so it was more of a convenience of circumstances. It doesn't make sense to have Mary Jane come in eventually if Gwen is still alive, but that's my two cents on it.

I will say that an actual problem I had with TAS was how blandly filmed it was. At least Sam Raimi knows how to make a shot look interesting. One of the things I love about those Spider-Man movies is how there is this grand scope of New York City, the shots of Spider-Man swinging across buildings are filmed so fluently and really believably. With TAS I felt like the entire movie took place on one block of NYC. And having since been to New York (after Spider-Man 3 but before Amazing Spider-Man) I do have a better idea of how New York looks and it's just lost here. It looks like generic metropolis that actually reminded me of Thor and it's awful camera direction.

I'll go see it, I think the first one was solid and I see this one continuing to be just as solid. This series of films isn't my Spider-Man. Whether those movies have held up or not it, it doesn't change the fact that that was my introduction to the character and there are a lot of positive things about those movies. Hypothetically if Marvel did own Spider-Man and had been able to use him for Avengers, would I have liked to have seen Tobey Maguire? No, I think his era is over and it's time for a new Spider-Man. At the same time I'm just not interested in re-meeting all of these characters over again, which I think is the problem some people have. I don't want early Spider-Man stories, I want like Kraven's Last Stand Spider-Man stories where he's been Spider-Man for a while and he isn't still trying to figure out his life. But while I mope about Marvel not owning those rights I love The Avengers and everything that's going on over there so much that I'm okay with exploring new characters I'm not familiar with than retreading the same ones.

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As to whether or not she dies in this one, I don't really care.

She can't. Not unless the Goblin is in it, and it doesn't look like he's going to be, so she cant. Nobody kills Gwen Stacy except the Green Goblin. If they have anybody else kill her, I'll take the whole cast and crew hostage and force them to film it again.

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 I believe the Green Goblin is in this one.

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Is he? *checks*
Oh, I see. News.

Well from what I can tell from the leaked trailer (which looks amazing), the film seems to be focusing on Electro, with Rhino as a sideline. I can't imagine Goblin would get much screen-time in that event, unless it's three hours long. For his killing Gwen to have sufficient impact, he'd need to be established as a more central villain for longer than that.
Disconcertingly, scuttlebutt tells me that the goblin pictured on that poster is Harry. Which makes no sense. Norman has to be the first Goblin.

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 Yeah, it looks really good though, I can't wait to see it.

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I noticed some recent complaining about the idea of Disney doing a superhero movie...

Presumably some people don't understand that Disney does more than just family movies? Pulp Fiction was done by Disney, for Baal's sake.

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As was Pirates of the Caribbean and I enjoyed that series.

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Wasn't Disney behind The Incredibles, as well as every single Marvel superhero film the past few years?

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As was Pirates of the Caribbean and I enjoyed that series.

What, all of it?
And yet you didn't care for The Wolverine?
You're all over the place, man!

Wasn't Disney behind The Incredibles, as well as every single Marvel superhero film the past few years?

Disney owns Marvel in its entirety: comics, movies & TV.
They've been buying up all my favourite things for a few years now. It's a bit worrying on one hand... but maybe a good thing? They have a way of getting shit done.

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 I thought The Wolverine was alright.

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Gal Gadot has been cast as Wonder Woman in the upcoming Batman vs Superman movie

http://movies.yahoo.com/blogs/movie-news/gal-gadot-cast-wonder-woman-batman-vs-superman-174612957.html

I'm thinking that this movie is going to bomb big time.  She is to skinny to play Wonder Woman.

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Woah... seems like an odd choice.  I cannot imagine Wonder Woman would ever require a high brow of acting, so the producers surely had more actresses to look through.  Maybe few of them were really interested?

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Good old Manwhich, always applying his own personal physical parameters to womenkind.

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Here is the trailer for the Amazing Spider-man 2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpF5M-xkI4w

[Reply #757 on:]

Argh why must EVERYTHING have a sequel/prequel/remake? There is absolutely no variety or creativity, it's pathetic.

[Reply #758 on:]

Oh, you're gonna hate Schildler's List 2.

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Oh, you're gonna hate Schildler's List 2.

Is that for real? I'd honestly not be surprised...

Also, does anyone know if the blade runner sequel is genuine or just a rumour?