ShinyMetal***
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I will, I'll give her a call later and ask her what it is.
I wonder if there's a site where you can watch Futurama episodes? There's probably one out there somewhere.
In reply to LMP.
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Quantum Neutrino Field
Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #721 on: 10-20-2013 20:16 »
« Last Edit on: 10-20-2013 20:17 »
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^ The Simpsons is definently more influential, but I think South Park is funnier- (with the exception of the last few seasons.)
I grew up with both, and experienced both show's "golden age" first hand. They're both very dear to me, though I also think they're beyond comparison. Different styles of humour, different objectives, different in so many ways... Apples and oranges, people. It's futile to even debate about.
The Simpsons and South Park are very different, but to me Simpsons is better. It feels like South Park never was so serious it could be as great and humor doesn't work in a same level as with Simpsons. However, I'm never been a fan of South Park and I started watching it quite recently, so my opinion is really not objective. They are different, Simpsons couldn't do anything South Park does, it would be too bizarre and stupid.
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cyber_turnip
Urban Legend
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I agree with you there, but only because South Park is a better show, IMO, than the Simpsons. I still like the Simpsons, though.
The Simpsons is a much better show than South Park. Honestly, I think even Trey Parker would admit that based on how highly he and Matt Stone talk about The Simpsons. The Simpsons may have gone piss-poor, but hell, South Park's hardly been stellar from season 12, onwards, either. And on a per-episode basis... well, South Park hit episode 200 in season 14. The Simpsons hit episode 200 in season 9. In its prime, The Simpsons was like a show made with about 20 people of Trey Parker's caliber on staff. It's no wonder that it was better. South Park is an amazing show, too, though, for the record.
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cartoonlover27
Professor
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^ I do agree that modern South Park can't even compare to classic Simpsons episodes.
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Lost My Phone
Professor
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I don't think that any episode of South Park compares to Classic Simpsons.
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cartoonlover27
Professor
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I don't think that any episode of South Park compares to Classic Simpsons.
I'd say a few do, but hey, I respect your opinion.
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Beamer
DOOP Secretary
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Season 9 Episode 6
What's it called?
Wow... Seriously guys? Seriously? Okay, the spammy chat-room-esque posts are getting waaaayyyy out of hand, now. Why even respond to a question about your favourite episode if your post's going to be as minimal as "Season 9 Episode 6." Why not even drop the title or provide some sort of comment as to why it's your favourite? And Shiny, come on now, you could've Googled that. You're better than that. I hate to keep stepping in and donning the serious hat; it doesn't fit and it looks horrible on me... But you guys DO realise how high the chances are of someone here being banned once the mods finally see this, right? Not to mention what happened with the original American Dad thread (and most of General Disscussion)... Yeah, in my opinion, Homer didn't really become the asshole that he is until Jean took over.
Most fans would argue that the Mike Scully years were the apex of "jerkass Homer." Jean practically said he was making a conscious effort to bring the heart back to the show when he first took over in season 13 (and, as bad as that season is, Homer does get a few redeeming moments in it; ie. Jaws Wired Shut). Actually, the only Scully episode where I can remember Homer NOT being a complete asshole would be Hungry, Hungry Homer, which I enjoyed almost entirely for that reason. Some examples of Homer being at his worst in the Scully seasons: * Homer inadvertently getting Maude killed and then continuing to be a complete cunt to Flanders afterwards. * Homer waving his children in front of bulls at rodeos to get their attention. * Refusing to give his father a kidney, leaving him on his deathbed and running away instead. And that's just off the top of my head.
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Lost My Phone
Professor
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Uh...yeah, I knew that. *Runs away* It's been a while since I last watched the Scully seasons, so I kind of forgot about all that. Not to mention I was tired as fuck when I made that post.
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AdrenalinDragon
Starship Captain
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« Reply #734 on: 10-21-2013 02:43 »
« Last Edit on: 10-21-2013 03:16 »
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Season 9 Episode 6
What's it called?
Wow... Seriously guys? Seriously? Okay, the spammy chat-room-esque posts are getting waaaayyyy out of hand, now. Why even respond to a question about your favourite episode if your post's going to be as minimal as "Season 9 Episode 6." Why not even drop the title or provide some sort of comment as to why it's your favourite? And Shiny, come on now, you could've Googled that. You're better than that.
I hate to keep stepping in and donning the serious hat; it doesn't fit and it looks horrible on me... But you guys DO realise how high the chances are of someone here being banned once the mods finally see this, right? Not to mention what happened with the original American Dad thread (and most of General Disscussion)...
Yeah, in my opinion, Homer didn't really become the asshole that he is until Jean took over.
Most fans would argue that the Mike Scully years were the apex of "jerkass Homer." Jean practically said he was making a conscious effort to bring the heart back to the show when he first took over in season 13 (and, as bad as that season is, Homer does get a few redeeming moments in it; ie. Jaws Wired Shut). Actually, the only Scully episode where I can remember Homer NOT being a complete asshole would be Hungry, Hungry Homer, which I enjoyed almost entirely for that reason.
Some examples of Homer being at his worst in the Scully seasons: * Refusing to give his father a kidney, leaving him on his deathbed and running away instead.
As much as I hate to admit this, Jerkass Homer could be quite funny in the early Scully seasons though (Seasons 9 and 10 especially). If I recall correctly in Kidney Trouble, Homer does admit he was a jerk in it near the end. I still like that episode, despite being one of the stupidest at that point, but hey, if Homer vs. Dignity can make me laugh quite a bit despite having a stupid premise, that's still better than a lot of episodes Jean's done from Season 13 onwards, because many of his episodes I've watched are either not that funny or are just plain boring. Half of the time at least, it's a mix of both, which is one of the worst combinations you could have for a Simpsons episode.
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Lost My Phone
Professor
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As much as I hate to admit this, Jerkass Homer could be quite funny in the early Scully seasons though (Seasons 9 and 10 especially). If I recall correctly in Kidney Trouble, Homer does admit he was a jerk in it near the end.
I agree. "Jerkass Homer" was kind of funny during the early Scully Era. On the other hand, Scully's Season 11 saw Homer being responsible for Maude's death, and later continuing to act like an asshole to Ned, as Beamer mentioned above
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Beamer
DOOP Secretary
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If I recall correctly in Kidney Trouble, Homer does admit he was a jerk in it near the end.
Ultimately, the kidney is only donated against his will, and even if that wasn't the case, it still wouldn't be enough to redeem his actions. On the other hand, Scully's Season 11 saw Homer being responsible for Maude's death, and later continuing to act like an asshole to Ned, as Beamer mentioned above
I normally ONLY like Jerkass Homer when it's unreasonably directed towards Flanders, but that one was way, way over the line for me. And just a terrible episode in general, too... It actually had the potential to be genuinely affecting and explore territory the show had never explored before, but instead was yet another platform for the unabashed pointless retardation of the Scully years. They might as well have thrown some more fucking jockey elves in while they were slapping that episode together.
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AdrenalinDragon
Starship Captain
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« Reply #737 on: 10-21-2013 03:40 »
« Last Edit on: 10-21-2013 04:31 »
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On the other hand, Scully's Season 11 saw Homer being responsible for Maude's death, and later continuing to act like an asshole to Ned, as Beamer mentioned above
I normally ONLY like Jerkass Homer when it's unreasonably directed towards Flanders, but that one was way, way over the line for me. And just a terrible episode in general, too... It actually had the potential to be genuinely affecting and explore territory the show had never explored before, but instead was yet another platform for the unabashed pointless retardation of the Scully years. They might as well have thrown some more fucking jockey elves in while they were slapping that episode together.
I'd say Alone Again, Natura-Diddily is probably one of my least favourite episodes of Season 11. Homer was quite dark in this one, and Maude's death was done badly as it pretty much came down to Homer being retarded but later making jokes about it. They also took the wrong approach in making alot of the jokes come from Homer targetting Ned after Maude died too. Even by the end, when Ned found closure in supposedly getting over Maude and having faith again, I still couldn't tell whether the episode was supposed to be funny or emotional. It just kind of ends up being awkwardly neither I think, if that makes any sense at all.
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Lost My Phone
Professor
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I think I read somewhere (I can't remember where) that someone on The Simpsons's writing staff (possibly Matt Selman) suggested bringing Maude back several years after "Alone Again, Natura-Diddily" aired. I believe this gentleman wanted to have her come back and reveal that she had been very much alive since the events of the episode. Well, thank God they didn't do that. That would have been worse than killing her off in the first place.
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Beamer
DOOP Secretary
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I remember it being jokingly suggested by Al Jean when he was talking about undoing some of the permanent changes to the show. He said something along the lines of "Apu's wife could take the octuplets back to India, Milhouse's parents could get back together (this was a while ago, obviously) but I still haven't figured out a way to bring Maude back yet." I don't remember any writer suggesting it was a legitimate idea that they were actually considering.
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Beamer
DOOP Secretary
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I think you're placing far too much emphasis on other people's opinions, stum. Half of the things you're citing here are quotes from other sources on the episodes... All that matters is whether or not you enjoyed it. I've disagreed with plenty of people in this thread on episodes that weren't particularly popular but I personally liked. At the end of the day, hey, their loss, because the time I spent watching it was a far better 20 minutes of my life than theirs.
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cyber_turnip
Urban Legend
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If I recall correctly in Kidney Trouble, Homer does admit he was a jerk in it near the end.
Ultimately, the kidney is only donated against his will, and even if that wasn't the case, it still wouldn't be enough to redeem his actions.
He wasn't too much of a jerk in that episode. He was scared. Call him a coward if you want, but that doesn't make him a jerk. Question: Why do people like Trash of the Titans but revile other similar episodes such as "A Tale of Two Springfields"?
I don't have a particular problem with either, personally. I don't think either are particularly great, but they're Simpsons episodes that I'd say are decent. Some of the last episodes I'd say aren't awful. As for "The Italian Bob", I think it's one of the very worst episodes ever made. I think I ranked it as my 2nd least favourite of all time on the other page. "Day of the Jackanapes" is much better (despite not being great).
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