The Walking Dead

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I just thought it was an impractical place to cut carrots..

[Reply #321 on:]

Is there any place that's not impractical to cut carrots during a zombie apocalypse?

[Reply #322 on:]

Lori really doesn't know how to chop carrots... I mean, were those for eating? The chunks were too big.. unless she was cutting them up into smaller chunks to store later, but even that that doesn't make sense because carrots go all icky if you start chopping them up long before they get eaten, or at the very least you would end up with more wastage of the carrot. I kinda just glazed over the whole conversation while thinking about carrots.

Thank you.  I thought I was the only one who watches a show about a zombie apocalypse and gets distracted by carrot cutting.  The way Lori was using that knife, she might have well just broken up the carrots by hand!  I do wonder if the person who plays Lori was "acting" there or if she just has no idea how to use a knife to cut vegetables in real life.  I'm sure that will be discussed on the DVD commentary!

I am a little disappointed that it seems than animals are immune from becoming zombies.  I was hoping for some shombie action in the second half of the season.

I could NOT pay attention in that scene at all, the carrot cutting was way too distracting. But for me it was because I immediately saw the carrots as a phallic symbol, and Lori chopping those up like that symbolic to some personal issues in her life.

[Reply #323 on:]

Sometimes a carrot is just a carrot.

[Reply #324 on:]

This coming from the guy who said:

"Remember kids, be careful where you place your penis!"

I think that quote is relevant here as well. Maybe more relevant...only relevant.

[Reply #325 on:]

Lori really doesn't know how to chop carrots... I mean, were those for eating? The chunks were too big.. unless she was cutting them up into smaller chunks to store later, but even that that doesn't make sense because carrots go all icky if you start chopping them up long before they get eaten, or at the very least you would end up with more wastage of the carrot. I kinda just glazed over the whole conversation while thinking about carrots.

Thank you.  I thought I was the only one who watches a show about a zombie apocalypse and gets distracted by carrot cutting.  The way Lori was using that knife, she might have well just broken up the carrots by hand!  I do wonder if the person who plays Lori was "acting" there or if she just has no idea how to use a knife to cut vegetables in real life.  I'm sure that will be discussed on the DVD commentary!

I am a little disappointed that it seems than animals are immune from becoming zombies.  I was hoping for some shombie action in the second half of the season.

I could NOT pay attention in that scene at all, the carrot cutting was way too distracting. But for me it was because I immediately saw the carrots as a phallic symbol, and Lori chopping those up like that symbolic to some personal issues in her life.

Funny...I couldn't concentrate on the scene too because of the carrots...just as well, i strongly dislike the lady..

[Reply #326 on:]

I didn't even notice the carrots. Who the fuck notices carrots?

Oh, apparently everybody.

[Reply #327 on:]

There were actually a couple of scenes centered around chopping vegetables that episode.  Lots of chopping!  Chop chop chop!

[Reply #328 on:]

Watch out for carrots stuck in lapels in future episodes!

[Reply #329 on:]

Maybe carrots contain the vaccine

[Reply #330 on:]

For once I agree with Shane, they're zombies, not fucking people with emotions.

[Reply #331 on:]

Yeah but you have to remember that this is set in a world without zombies in the media - so the whole concept of them is new to these characters. It's understandable that someone might want to hold out for a cure initially.

[Reply #332 on:]

And it's understandable for him to have believed that for a while. But in the end, no matter what Hershel may believe, it was incredibly dangerous to keep a barn full of them, and certainly not safe to wrangle new ones and try to bring them to the barn. And it was unreasonable of him to expect the group to put up with it or leave, when he had been told even by Maggie that she didn't feel safe. When it comes to the situation that these people live in, where taking caution is the difference between life and death at all times, ensuring safety for yourself and others comes before anything, and if Hershel wasn't going to change his mind, the answer can only be safety first, talk about it later. Shane was right about that.

That doesn't make the way Shane went about handling the situation in the best way. They barely even tried to convince Hershel to change his mind. The only two people who even attempted talking to him about it were Dale and Rick. All of the others should have told Hershel about their experiences, and someone should have told him about the video that they were shown in the CDC which proved that no part of the person's personality remained when they reawoke as a zombie. Also, just releasing the zombies from the barn instead of killing them in a safer way was completely contradictory to Shane's insistence that they be as safe as possible. And killing them right in front of Hershel was just cruel.

Shane is right about staying there whether Hershel allows it or not, though. Hershel doesn't understand what the world is like outside his farm, and doesn't know what will happen to them if he makes them leave. As far as I'm concerned, in an apocalyptic situation such as that, property ownership does not exist anymore. Everybody's two options in this world are find shelter or be killed, and if your group finds a safe place to stay, you're allowed to stay there no matter what the people already there say. There are no more official rules or laws, there's only survival and common decency. In this case, it's common decency for Hershel to allow them to stay.

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Well if resources start to dwindle you can't expect Herschel to sit idly by and allow them to stay...that's part of survival too. If Rick's group weakens their ability to survive I can see why Herschel would tell them to get lost. If they were the only two groups of people left alive anywhere, than the second group's presence would be good for procreation, but we haven't gotten that far yet.

[Reply #334 on:]

Good point, I thought about that actually. Maybe Rick's group would agree to hunt their own food and not leech off Hershel's family's food?

Still, Hershel is also safer if he lets them stay because of the amount of guns they have and how good many of them are at shooting. If a huge horde of zombies ever descended upon the farm, having an "army" would come in extreme handy for Hershel.

[Reply #335 on:]

Yes I agree with that. It could be a symbiotic relationship - Rick's group becomes lookout and the first line of defense, in return getting shelter from Herschel, so long as his group is able to keep the level of resources like food and water steady.

[Reply #336 on:]

I rather hope the farm gets overrun by zombies killing half the people there and the survivors take back to the road asap.

[Reply #337 on:]

Yeah I'm actually surprised with all the gun toting and what not that some traveling hordes haven't heard the noise...

[Reply #338 on:]

Not too likely, since the hordes are there were humans are/were... outside in the country you rather have single walkers, or tiny groups, but hordes are normally unlikely.

[Reply #339 on:]

I rather hope the farm gets overrun by zombies killing half the people there and the survivors take back to the road asap.

Well, with what just happened in the show and with Shane being the way he is, it's pretty obvious that shit's gonna go down soon that will most likely make them need to leave, zombies or not.

[Reply #340 on:]

If Shane dies he hopefully goes the same way he did in the comics.

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I expected there to be no way for that to happen, but based on the show doing some stuff in the last few episodes that caught up with the comics a bit (you'll know what I mean if you've read them), I think he may well go in that way - and I hope he does because it's a defining moment for one of the characters involved that lead to them becoming one of my favourite characters in the comic.

[Reply #342 on:]

The show doesn't follow everything in the comics though I am told, like with Sophia. I think it would not be in the best interest of the show right now to get rid of Shane, but again I haven't read the comics. On the show though Rick and Shane exhibit the perfect good cop, bad cop dynamic. It would be a shame to split that up.

[Reply #343 on:]

Shane was dead by this point in the comics, so it's already completely doing it's own thing with him - but it does feel like it's leading up to his demise reasonably soon if you ask me... possibly at the end of season 2.

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I think it would make perfect sense to kill Shane off now, actually. Now that Rick has seen Sophia dead and realized his mistakes unnecessarily compromising the group's safety, he's ready to adopt some of Shane's survival techniques and become the perfect middle ground between what his character was and what Shane is.

[Reply #345 on:]

Hm. I guess I can understand that. Is that what happens in the comics, after Shane goes Rick adopts a more authoritarian style?

[Reply #346 on:]

It was quite a bit different. And he went way earlier:

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When Rick returned and found his family at the camp, Shane tried to resume his role as Rick's friend.  As time went by, he became more and more jealous until he and Rick had a confrontation while hunting with Carl. At that time, Carl shot and killed Shane. Lori showed mostly anger and hatred for Shane during his burial, and spit on his grave when the others left her sight. She was later revealed to be pregnant with  Judith, though it's not sure if Shane was the father.


Later on in the series, when the survivors are settling into the prison, Rick discovers that it does not require a Zombie bite to transform the living into the undead.  The next day Rick, sets off back to Atlanta to finish off Shane. Once he arrives he digs up Shane's remains only to see him turned into a Zombie.  Rick then proceeds to say his goodbyes and shoots him in the head, finally letting Shane rest in peace.

[Reply #347 on:]

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In case it wasn't obvious, Carl only shot Shane because Shane was basically about to kill Rick.
It happened shortly after Rick had given Carl a gun on the specific instruction that it was only to be used in emergencies and if he saw him playing with it or anything like that, he'd take it away. The show skipped this part out until recently where they went back and added it in, albeit a bit late - so I was initially a bit miffed that they were going to ruin Carl as a character, but now it seems to be back on track.

You see, this, for me, is the defining moment where Carl began to become one of my favourite characters. It's quite unusual for me to like a child in fiction, they usually annoy me to no end, so Carl is something special and I'm glad that the show seems to be doing a better job with him than many others.

And believe me, him having a gun leads to some pretty incredible and intense storylines.

[Reply #348 on:]

Have you guys played the board game? It's pretty cool. In that Andrea is the character to be it seems if you want to win.

[Reply #349 on:]

new episode airs this Sunday.  I've been looking forward to the next episode for 2 months after where they left off.

[Reply #350 on:]

I hope the second part of this season is a step up from the first, I really do.

The comic is still going fantastically strong. It's remarkably well written and full of depth as well as being gritty and packing a lot of emotional punch. It'll be a tragedy if the show just sort of shrivels away into being awful like the last few episodes suggested it might.

Still the mid-season finale was good and so hopefully things will just continue to pick up from there.

[Reply #351 on:]

new episode airs this Sunday.  I've been looking forward to the next episode for 2 months after where they left off.

Yes! Also on Sunday, a replay of season 2 leading up to the new episode.

[Reply #352 on:]

As much as I'm looking forward the new series, it feels weird having MLP and TWD as the only 2 shows I'm interested in following at the moment.. the most crazily upbeat show on TV combined with the most depressing and gritty show on TV.

I also hope it improves, I can hardly remember much of the first half of the season at this point, and certainly don't want to re-watch it like I did with the excellent first season. The finale of the first half and the Daryl episode were the only really good parts.

It's quite interesting to read up on the actor who plays Daryl.. he used to be a model for Prada and his rough looks are the result of a car accident where half his face got smashed in. He's also an artist.

[Reply #353 on:]

I read an interview, yesterday, with the guy in charge now that Frank Darabont has left (sorry I don't have the link to hand).

Basically, he said that he agreed that the first half of season 2 was too slow and it wasn't due to budgetary problems, it was just a misjudgment on his and Darabont's part (seeing as they conceived it before Frank left the show).

So yeah, hopefully the second half will be a huge improvement.

[Reply #354 on:]

I loved season 1 and watched it all in one night last fall. I was dragging myself through class and work for the rest of the week, but it was worth it! Season 2-A was definitely too slow. During season 1, I thought it would be nice to see them settle down in one place for a bit. It turns out they did that in Season 2-A, but they also stretched things out way too far without ever really settling into place. The worst episode in my opinion was the penultimate episode entitled "Secrets." They showed the zombie barn at the end of the episode before that and decided not to do anything with it for another two weeks. While watching "Secrets," I felt like I was watching a soap opera - very disappointing!

I read an interview with the guy in charge now that Frank Darabont has left yesterday (sorry I don't have the link to hand).

I had to read this sentence three times and do a bit of research to understand what you were trying to say. Grammar is important people!

[Reply #355 on:]

It's more of a punctuation issue than a grammar issue.

[Reply #356 on:]

The correctee has become the corrector.

[Reply #357 on:]

It was a horribly garbled sentence though, I do apologise.

[Reply #358 on:]

I still don't understand what it means.

[Reply #359 on:]

On Feb 9, cyber_turnip read an interview with the current showrunner that Frank Darabont (former showrunner) was fired.

I'm sorry I brought it up. I'd rather read what you guys think about the show.