The Walking Dead

[Reply #240 on:]

Yeah, I don't think being dead is necessarily a pre-requisite of being a zombie. Most people would call the creatures in Resident Evil zombies as well, though I don't recall that they had to die to complete the transformation (though some did).

It's much like vampires in that regard, in that there are varied details between tales. Some think that someone bitten by a vampire dies, and then rises from the grave three days later. Some think they turn rather quickly, and some others think they just die unless they also drink the vampire's blood. Yet creatures that meet any of those definitions would still be called "vampires" by most people.

[Reply #241 on:]

Infected humans incapable of rational thought with a need for devouring, even if not rotten (look up the history of zombies, sillies), are still zombies.  The rotten part was never originally part of the zombie mythology.

The term 'infected' is a modern term used in zombie films as a way to indicate that the military, government or other faceless entities do not desire to use the term 'zombies' as it is too 'ordinary'.

Every zombie film/game I've seen, all 'official documents', etc. appearing in the film/game always refer to the zombies as 'the infected'.  Don't let that confuse you, though, they really are zombies.

[Reply #242 on:]

Well in the series they get bitten, power down, and power up again with a dead time of a few minutes to a few more hours.

[Reply #243 on:]

And they never once call them zombies, do they? But they still are!

[Reply #244 on:]

That reminds me, if they call them "Walkers", will there be other types of zombies? Like crawlers, chargers, swingers, etc...

[Reply #245 on:]

That reminds me, if they call them "Walkers", will there be other types of zombies? Like crawlers, chargers, swingers, etc...

I own a t-shirt that says yes.

http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/unisex/popculture/e714/?srp=1

[Reply #246 on:]

There are:
Roamers - randomly walking around, searching for prey. Most common in TWD.
Lurkers - sitting still somewhere, appearing dead, until someone comes too close.
The Herd - mostly happens when 1 zombie does something (like touching a door nob) and a 2nd sees that as a try from #1 to get in, then helps and #1 sees that and does more until a whole group does something for no real reason.

Some people call the Walkers Biters instead, since all of them whether walking around or not, bite.

[Reply #247 on:]

I know there are lots of different types of zombies overall, but I meant just in the Walking Dead.

[Reply #248 on:]

That IS from the walking dead.

[Reply #249 on:]

Ah, cheers.

[Reply #250 on:]

That reminds me, if they call them "Walkers", will there be other types of zombies? Like crawlers, chargers, swingers, etc...

I own a t-shirt that says yes.

http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/unisex/popculture/e714/?srp=1

You totally beat me to that, I was just about to link that hehe.

[Reply #251 on:]

Part of me keeps wanting to see the zombies eat everyone left in the group.  They are so whiny the lot of 'em!  It would really put a dent in future character development if they were all dead, but I just don't find much to like about them.  I'm enjoying the show, but more for the zombie action and the sets & cinematography than for the characters.

[Reply #252 on:]

If it stays kinds true to the mentality of the comics, lots of the will die eventually, either by zombies or other survivors.

[Reply #253 on:]

Part of me keeps wanting to see the zombies eat everyone left in the group.  They are so whiny the lot of 'em!  It would really put a dent in future character development if they were all dead, but I just don't find much to like about them.  I'm enjoying the show, but more for the zombie action and the sets & cinematography than for the characters.

I think whineyness is unavoidable in some survival stories. Like Lost. I got sick of Claire in about five minutes. I wanted to beat her unconscious just so I wouldn't have to hear her anymore.

[Reply #254 on:]

They need to work on character development more and more.  These people are interesting; they've survived the zombie outbreak; we just don't know that they're interesting enough yet.  That was part of the problem with season 1; before I got to know any of the characters and feel attached to them, they get whacked.  The show just needs to focus on flashbacks more.

[Reply #255 on:]

Interesting ending on the last episode. When I first saw Shane's head scar, I thought it meant he got bit.

[Reply #256 on:]

I thought it meant he sacrificed the other guy.

Damn it Walking Dead, why did you have to go and do flash forwards?  Georgia might as well be purgatory now.

[Reply #257 on:]

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I actually thought that was the best episode yet. The character drama was engaging, the zombie stuff was inventive (loved the hanged zombie) and the "shocking" ending actually did shock me! Great television.

[Reply #258 on:]

Georgia might as well be purgatory now.

Stop making references to things that you think happened in other shows that didn't actually happen. False references aren't funny.

As for this week's episode, good ending. But why didn't he just shoot the guy in the head instead of the leg? I can't imagine the zombies wouldn't have eaten him either way...dead or not, he was fresh meat. Just shooting him to get eaten alive? What a complete douchebag.

[Reply #259 on:]

Yeah FJ, I don't think people should be complaining that there's not enough zombie action in the last episode. Everywhere they turned, zombies! Lol still love the zombie cakewalk on the school playground.

[Reply #260 on:]

pretty weak, it was obvious he had "done wrong" when you saw him shit, shower and shave at the beginning of the episode - any chance of a twist was ruined
the whole thing in the school annoyed me too, they consistently outran the zombies even when they stopped to shoot (which made no sense as it was quicker to not shoot and they had no chance of killing them all so why bother shooting some when they all move at the same speed) - I thought the fat guy would be an interesting addition to the group, good tension as he shot the boy but oh well, make do with vet who knows far too much about medicine and more crying women instead
the should we even bother carrying on theme is as said making the majority of characters appear whiny and I dont care if they dont care

[Reply #261 on:]

I thought it was a great episode. I'm very glad as now season 2 doesn't just seem like the show has run into a brick wall.

It's easily the best of season 2 so far, and could fit in alongside the quality of season 1 reasonably easily in my opinion.

[Reply #262 on:]

Hopie: I bet you the vet and the others on the farm will NOT tag along when the group gets on the move again, unless they get overrun by zombies and many die.
Far more likely though is that once all are rested and whole they tell them to leave cause of little food or somesuch.

[Reply #263 on:]

All caught up with the new episodes, dang, poor fat Otis!
THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT STUPID LITTLE GIRL, WHEN YOU GET BACK YOU ARE IN FOR SUCH A SPANKING! 

[Reply #264 on:]

I thought it was funny that when Daryl was talking about how he thought she had more than a chance than he did when he got lost as a kid because she actually has people looking for her, he glaringly omitted the fact that THERE ARE FUCKING ZOMBIES ALL OVER THE PLACE NOW. Personally I think that makes quite a difference.

[Reply #265 on:]

I don't know, apart from that one zombie (the hanging one wasn't dangerous) the woods seemed pretty quiet, even that deer was fine... until fatty shot it. <:(

Stupid little girl.

[Reply #266 on:]

But we also know that the hanging zombie had its legs devoured by other zombies. And we've seen zombies in the woods in the first season.

In that situation, I wouldn't assume anywhere is safe.

[Reply #267 on:]

That's true about life now.  Daryl was absolutely right, there's no reason to whinge about the state of affairs, there is only getting back up and surviving; until you no longer have the ability to do that, but in reality, that point of no return is a lot farther than most people alive have ever given credit for.

[Reply #268 on:]

But we also know that the hanging zombie had its legs devoured by other zombies. And we've seen zombies in the woods in the first season.

In that situation, I wouldn't assume anywhere is safe.

The Zombies should stop chasing the humans and eat each other, much easier to catch you see

[Reply #269 on:]

For the most part, I very much enjoyed the new episode. The entire segment with them dealing with the well zombie was absolutely the best, with how hilariously pointless and unnecessarily dangerous the whole exercise ended up being. The part where he splits apart (which I saw coming as they dragged him up) was so fantastically gruesome, definitely some of the best gore effects this show has had so far.

I wish I hadn't watched the preview for the next episode, it would have been nice if I could be surprised by

Show spoiler

Merle's reappearance. I actually predicted that he'd be coming back into the picture soon once Daryl mentioned him to Sophia's mom in this episode, but it would have been more fun to have that confirmed while watching the actual episode. Why the hell would you spoil that, AMC? This is why I don't like to watch the previews.

[Reply #270 on:]

I wish I hadn't watched the preview for the next episode, it would have been nice if I could be surprised by[...]

I actually HATE "next time on" on any show. What's especially annoying is when they include it on the DVD's. Like Doctor Who. The episode ends, and then "Next time on [insert a bunch of spoilers]" BUT I'M LITERALLY ABOUT TO WATCH IT, SO WHY TELL ME?! I hate that crap.

[Reply #271 on:]

You know Eric, you can t*rr*nt the episodes, and not have to watch the previews on the episodes.

That said, this show is starting to grow on me.  I believe they're doing a lot better with character interactions and I'm starting to invest myself into getting to know the characters.  However, I'm not entirely certain that I'm starting this investment because the show is getting better or because I've semi-dedicated myself to watching it, but I believe it to be more of the former.

[Reply #272 on:]

You know Eric, you can t*rr*nt the episodes, and not have to watch the previews on the episodes.

That said, this show is starting to grow on me.  I believe they're doing a lot better with character interactions and I'm starting to invest myself into getting to know the characters.  However, I'm not entirely certain that I'm starting this investment because the show is getting better or because I've semi-dedicated myself to watching it, but I believe it to be more of the former.

I actually prefer watchseries, and then I use the Firefox extension Ant video downloader to save them.

(And I'm still not Eric Rogers)

[Reply #273 on:]

Just started watching this... all 10 eps so far, in the dark, at 2am-5am at night.

It's great, very unsettling, especially the suicidal theme they had going at the CDC and shortly after.

That said, I'm getting a little tired of all the angst, so I think Daryl is my favourite character at the moment, and the blonde who always looks like she's crying herself to death even when she isn't is the least.

Also, dammit, no farmer's daughter nipple. They went as side-boob as they could go without showing a thing!

[Reply #274 on:]

It's not HBO, it's AMC.

[Reply #275 on:]

So, are there any "happy medium" or softcore channels in America when it comes to sex?

It seems that they're all either:

a) Horrified at the thought of a glimpse of female buttcrack, despite showing extreme gore, violence and language at all points. (AMC)

b) Depict all of the above, but also go for nudity as long as it's depicting gratuitous sexual violence, incest, or some other kind of extreme perversion. (HBO)

There's got to be a mid-point somewhere, or are American audiences all either ultra-conservative christians or crazy perverts that bring spark plugs to the bedroom... Or.. both?

[Reply #276 on:]

So, are there any "happy medium" or softcore channels in America when it comes to sex?

It seems that they're all either:

a) Horrified at the thought of a glimpse of female buttcrack, despite showing extreme gore, violence and language at all points. (AMC)

b) Depict all of the above, but also go for nudity as long as it's depicting gratuitous sexual violence, incest, or some other kind of extreme perversion. (HBO)

There's got to be a mid-point somewhere, or are American audiences all either ultra-conservative christians or crazy perverts that bring spark plugs to the bedroom... Or.. both?

The most annoying part to me is that it's okay to show man-ass, because apparently that's funny, and not okay to show woman-ass, because that's sexy. The double standards we have in this country are ridiculous.

[Reply #277 on:]

the well zombie was a good effect but it was such a stupid thing to do that it felt like padding to me, sideboob girl is hot so I reckon she will be coming with the group when they leave the farm, worryingly I think they may spend all season stuck in one place as the overall story pace is very slow although to be fair that is fairly standard in US shows and there is nowhere obvious for the group to be going to

[Reply #278 on:]

So, are there any "happy medium" or softcore channels in America when it comes to sex?

It seems that they're all either:

a) Horrified at the thought of a glimpse of female buttcrack, despite showing extreme gore, violence and language at all points. (AMC)

b) Depict all of the above, but also go for nudity as long as it's depicting gratuitous sexual violence, incest, or some other kind of extreme perversion. (HBO)

There's got to be a mid-point somewhere, or are American audiences all either ultra-conservative christians or crazy perverts that bring spark plugs to the bedroom... Or.. both?

The difference between HBO and AMC is that HBO is a pay channel that isn't included in a basic cable package, you have to add it afterwards (or get a package that includes some/all of the pay channels). AMC is a basic cable channel, which means no nudity, and strong profanity only late at night. There are several other pay channels that run the range from softcore porn to hardcore porn to everything in between.

I agree though that it's ridiculous the way my country treats television violence as if it's totally fine (kids can watch people getting killed pretty much 24/7), but sex is a huge taboo and the human body can never be shown. The FCC is definitely up there on my list of least favorite government organizations.

[Reply #279 on:]

Actually, in the case of cable, it's more about sponsors than the FCC. The FCC doesn't regulate cable, they can technically broadcast whatever they want (like that episode of South Park where they had a "shit" counter), but sponsors don't want their names on things that drive viewers away. Money talks, sadly.