Red Dwarf

[Reply #280 on:]

Part 2 was really intresting. Love the story plot to it.

[Reply #281 on:]

I did enjoy the first part and I have nothing bad to say about it. That been said, I was disapointed about there being no explanation on how they got out of the events of Only the Good, and you can't really dismiss it, even if it is a stand-alone piece.
Also, I was disappointed with the fact of waiting another 23 hours and 30 minutes for the next episode because I really got into it. You know how it goes.

I actually had a long and convoluted dream about that. The drive plate malfunction was no accident, stranding the crew in deep space had been the intention of the JMC all along. The Company Spy was Todhunter, who planned the malfunction and programmed Holly's response. The only variable he didn't coutn on was Lister being in stasis, so he was unable to survive the accident. Upon the crew's revival, he surmised from the deep space position of the ship that his sabotage had been successful. He devised another plan to kill off the rest of the crew (the melty thing) but didn't have a way to stop it. When Rimmer jumped into the alternative universe, he saw his chance. He rigged the projector to malfunction upon Rimmer's return, and overpowered the others. He had been repairing the damaged starbug and put them in there, as by this point he was going to need hostages. They fled the crippled ship, but the dwarfers managed to get the drop on Todhunter, and had the nanites which had undertaken the repairs halt the destructive melting. Rimmer died, and Lister resurrected him out of guilt.

Holly was beyond repair for some reason.

It was a dream. It doesn't have to make sense.

[Reply #282 on:]

They keep talking about Series 9. What Doug said in an interview makes a bit more sense but still a little disappointed that they chose to do what they did.

[Reply #283 on:]

What now I am confused

[Reply #284 on:]

In the second episode they mentioned the 9th series. In an interview he was asked if there was any news and hope on the 9th series and Doug said, you'll find out why in the episodes that they're hoping for a 10th series.

Anyway, the Corrie stuff was the best of the whole lot of BTE

[Reply #285 on:]

I thought the conclusion was pretty good, and I enjoyed all the Blade Runner references.

[Reply #286 on:]

You know what I miss? The canned laughter.

[Reply #287 on:]

Do we really need it?

[Reply #288 on:]

I honestly don't know why so many complain about there being no audience, fake or real, when without it, it felt more like a movie. And shows like Blackadder have done that kind of thing (See Blackadder Back and Forth)

[Reply #289 on:]

When Rimmer wishes he was in a sitcom in Part 3, I wished he was too. Doug Naylor needs a proper comedy writer to co-write the scripts with (or just ask Robert Llewellyn to help). When he wrote with Rob Grant, it seemed like Grant came up with the sitcom part of the episode and Naylor put the sci-fi spin on it. Part 3 showed what Naylor can do when he isn't bogged down with psi-scans and whatnot- the Coronation Street scenes were very funny (though wildly inaccurate. Come on, whoever heard of Corrie actors rehearsing their lines?). The Back to Reality rehash wasn't so bad since pretty much everyone still watching saw it coming.

My main gripe was probably the scheduling of the three parts over three nights. The story worked much better on Monday when the whole thing was shown in one go. Since I liked the sets and most of the CGI, I give the whole thing a C rating, but bump it up to a B just because of the thrill of seeing the whole cast back together. Bring on "series ten"!

[Reply #290 on:]

I , how could i just missed this thread...

The specials were quite good.. i loved the first 15 minutes ,i really didnt liked part 2 at first because all i could think was "Oh crap... they are so broken that they have to film in real life locations with some lame excuse".. but part 3 mended it with the "return" of the despaire squid wich at least kind of made it fit within Red Dwarf..

Chlóe was a surprise... i tought she was not there at all and then she pops at the end.. nice touch..

Also nice is the return of the might old Red Dwarf in all her old glory ... the thrash can version and not the "pencil" they made for series 8/remastered.

Now that series 10 is on works.. i really want they explain what happened to Rimmer (is he the original hologram returned ? is he the hologram of the "new" Rimmer , is a different one?  ), why the ship is again the original version, where is the original crew, how did they survived the end of series 8?

[Reply #291 on:]

I didn't know this thread existed, I'm happy now that I've discovered it, with Red Dwarf being one of my favourite shows of all time.

That said, it's been a long time since I saw most of the episodes, so what I remember from it is very limited, at least from the first few and last series. I only own 4,6 and 7. I'll buy them, I'll watch them, then I'll remember and be happy.

On the notes of what I've just read, I liked the new episodes they released last year (or was it the year before? Time evades me) - as much as they were different, it was nice to see the cast back together, and it was still funny, though not as funny as the original - as if it could be.

Series 10 can hurry up and get onto my TV, if I have one when it comes out.

[Reply #292 on:]

I watched Series 9 recently, and I didn't find it very funny or much like Red Dwarf, but it had its own sort of closure I guess.  It was kind of like when I watched the finale to X-Files. 

I also started watching Series 8, which has been pretty good Red Dwarf so far.  However, its premise seems a little quarky and spin-offish.  It seems to me that by that point, Lister, Rimmer, Kryten, Cat, Kochanski, and their version of Holly are essentially Masters of the Universe.  I don't think laws by people they resurrected upheld by a civilization that disappeared millenia ago actually apply to them, and yet they don't argue with that fact and assume their new roles in THE BRIG.

I think I still have to see the end of Series 7 too... I really enjoyed 1-6 while I was growing up, and the film has that late 80s feel to it which I rather enjoy; obviously that wasn't different with Series 9 and the new CGI stuff they were doing.  Lolz!

[Reply #293 on:]

There is not, nor shall there ever be a Series 9 of Red Dwarf

[Reply #294 on:]

Umm... there is.  I kind of liked the Bladerunner references.  I assume this was what the movie was supposed to be.

[Reply #295 on:]

Series 7 is fantastic. As much as I hate Kochanski at times, she really does have her moments in some of the episodes.

I met two of the cast, that still makes me happier than seeing the Special Edition boxset of all 8 series (excluding Back to Earth, obviously).

[Reply #296 on:]

I can't recall my favourite series.... as I recall, Series 7 was just about to come out by the time I had started watching the show and probably seen most of the way through Series 6 one episode a week on saturday nights at 10 or 10:30pm on the public access channel.

P.S. Somebody tell this spellcheck to go suck a dick.

[Reply #297 on:]

There will be a next series of Red Dwarf next year ...

Tought they have not yet began filming acording to Robert Llewellyn ..

[Reply #298 on:]

Umm... there is. 

NO, there isn't - and Doug Naylor has publicly stated he will not make series 9

[Reply #299 on:]

Yeah there is, I saw it the other day.

[Reply #300 on:]

There will not be a series 9 per see at least for now as it was a joke (they say several times in BTE that series 9 was the best of all series and awesome) and new series would begin from series 10

[Reply #301 on:]

I grew up loving this show

[Reply #302 on:]

Series X confirmed!

http://uktv.co.uk/dave/article/aid/630663

[Reply #303 on:]

Tis will be a Happy Easter afterall.

[Reply #304 on:]

Wasn't Back to Earth technically a series?  Also... if we get more of that, I don't know that I'll be that thrilled about it.  I love Red Dwarf and all.... but....

[Reply #305 on:]

Series 8 wasn't that good. Back to Earth was pretty meh. If we get more, it better be an improvement over the last few offerings, or it may well be the death knell of the franchise.

[Reply #306 on:]

The link said it's being made by Dave so, prey not but it looks like it's death of knell to the franchise.

[Reply #307 on:]

The link said it's being made by Dave so, prey not but it looks like it's death of knell to the franchise.

So you're trying to say exactly the same thing I said, but you turned it around and fucked it up. Congratulations.

[Reply #308 on:]

You're welcome.

[Reply #309 on:]

Well I'm trying to tell you, go ahead and write off Red Dwarf to the Death of Knell as you put it, and I hope it's not the case, but, Back to Earth will probably set the bench mark for the Season X - Shoot, I didn't even think of Back to Earth was series 9 anyway.

[Reply #310 on:]

Series X confirmed!

http://uktv.co.uk/dave/article/aid/630663

I met a couple of the cast months ago and they confirmed it was being filmed then. Hooray for me!

[Reply #311 on:]

What is the plot of the series, nowadays? I know it started with Lister wanting to get back to Earth, then it drifted away from this, and then they lost the Red Dwarf and had to find it again, then they were prisoners for a series, and now they're drifting aimlessly again. At least Gilligan's Island had the cast slowly coming to accept the island as their home, the entire show essentially portraying the development of the characters as they grew to assimilate this as part of themselves. The erratic nature of Red Dwarf continuity, however, denies any cognitive application and eschews this sort of proper aesthetic development, the resulting subtext distracting a great deal from the comedy with its somber overtones.

[Reply #312 on:]

Well.. the main "obstacle" in the Red Dwarf series goal (the return to Earth) is that the Red Dwarf was 3 million years away from earth.. so unless some system is found its impossible without the crew going into stasis (wich was briefly mentioned in series 1/2) so the journey will continue until the writers want to (very similar to Voyager wich needed theorically 70 years to return unless some other way was found)

As for the Back to Earth confusion.. it was set 9 years after series VIII , something hapent between the events in series VIII and the events in BTE ... presumibly told in series IX , but series IX is a joke as its described as "awesome" and "the best ever" and the new series will be named series X..
Still its not known if series X will tell the events that lead to BTE or if it will pick where BTE ended (Lister resolving to find back Kochansky)

[Reply #313 on:]

The whole "get back to Earth" angle seems to have been lost, though. In the second episode, Lister was planning to go back into stasis until they got there, yes, but later this plot thread was completely dropped. By series VII, they have a teleporting time machine, and they use it get Indian food from Earth in 1963. What? Why not go home like you've been wanting to for nearly the past decade?

[Reply #314 on:]

Comedic effect... and it was difficult to get a good vindaloo.

[Reply #315 on:]

Yeah.. they went really far with that..

Still not as much as having Kryten's nanobots.. wich are suposed to be there since they found him and before... being able to resurrect 1168 persons and a 9km long ship and then forgeting totally about what to do with those in an unresolved cliffhanger...

i hope thats adressed in series X ... even if its only a small phrass like "Since that time the nanobots rebuilt the ship and the crew and then some time later their work undid and the ship got back to normal and crew dissapeared" .. because the BTE ship is the classic one.. not the "newer" longer version..
but thats the lest of its problems

[Reply #316 on:]

Did anyone (else) see that American Red Dwarf Pilot?

I've seen it in full on MySpace, and in segments on YouTube.

[Reply #317 on:]

which one?

[Reply #318 on:]

The Unaired US Pilot

[Reply #319 on:]

Seen it.  Didn't much care for it.