Best Star Wars Film

[Reply #40 on:]

Why are there six options in the poll? There are only three Star Wars movies.

Films, they are called films.

[Reply #41 on:]

I'll call them what the hell I like, sir.

There are only 3 Star Wars talkies.  

[Reply #42 on:]

Uncanny.  I was going to call them "talkies"!

[Reply #43 on:]

I would have to say my favorite Star Wars ever are the 2003 animated Clone Wars shorts that were on Cartoon Network and done by the guy who did Samurai Jack.

This one, not this one.

[Reply #44 on:]

Yeah, except the story of the Clone Wars is boring.  I preferred it when it was just something mentioned in passing ("you fought in the clone wars?").

[Reply #45 on:]

Bleh. Hated the Samurai Jack Clone War cartoons. I am always stunned when I hear that others actually liked them. Hated the character designs, hated the ridiculous over-the-top action sequences. The 20-second run time meant that there was no time for story, just mindless action...which might have been ok, if the action was even slightly cool. What is the appeal?

Yeah, except the story of the Clone Wars is boring.  I preferred it when it was just something mentioned in passing ("you fought in the clone wars?").

Yeah. Decades of speculation is always going to be more fun than the finished product. I loved how they mention the clone wars in one line in the original movie, and then kids like me spend their whole lives trying to imagine what it was like. So much potential and imagination in that one line! But then they finally show it, and it's like "oh, so it's just clones of one guy versus a bunch of droids. Sigh."

Same story with finally getting the "real" backstory on Boba Fett. One one hand, I thought it was cool to finally see this stuff, but on the other hand it was more fun when things were a mystery.

[Reply #46 on:]

...it...WAS...cool. At least I thought so. So that was the appeal for me.

[Reply #47 on:]

LOL
Oh God....I love Star Wars, but the Holiday Special is just horrible. It's the weirdest, creepiest thing ever. And Carrie Fisher is drugged up the entire time. Also, now no one admits to it even exsisting..not even George LOL!

[Reply #48 on:]

Just imagine being a kid seeing the Holiday Special. I would have been scarred for life.

[Reply #49 on:]

As a kid, the clone wars reference combined with obi wan's droid-like name (obi wan, OB1) made me assume that the clone wars involved cloning jedi. This, I thought, was surely responsible for the imbalance in the force they kept going on about.

Lucas' idea was much less awesome. Cloning boba fett's dad, uhm, sperm-donor? original?, cool as it is in concept, just doesn't compare to the idea of an army of jedi clones.

:edit: watching new hope. It's the new version, in which greedo is clearly the worst bounty hunter in the galaxy. He can't hit a stationary target 3 feet away? Perhaps he was the instructor at the storm trooper training camp's firing range...

[Reply #50 on:]

A New Hope is my favorite with Empire Strikes Back as a close second.

[Reply #51 on:]

Just imagine being a kid seeing the Holiday Special. I would have been scarred for life.

I saw it as a child, I recall sitting down excitedly awaiting new Star Wars on TV, all my childhood hopes were bitterly crushed that night ... I haven't been the same since

[Reply #52 on:]

LOL
Oh God....I love Star Wars, but the Holiday Special is just horrible. It's the weirdest, creepiest thing ever. And Carrie Fisher is drugged up the entire time. Also, now no one admits to it even exsisting..not even George LOL!

I saw it as a child, I recall sitting down excitedly awaiting new Star Wars on TV, all my childhood hopes were bitterly crushed that night ... I haven't been the same since

And you sent me a link to it.  Thanks, Tweek... 

[Reply #53 on:]

But you wouldn't have felt complete without seeing it.

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[Reply #54 on:]

I still need to watch that with the Rifftrax.

[Reply #55 on:]

As a kid, the clone wars reference combined with obi wan's droid-like name (obi wan, OB1) made me assume that the clone wars involved cloning jedi. This, I thought, was surely responsible for the imbalance in the force they kept going on about.

Lucas' idea was much less awesome. Cloning boba fett's dad, uhm, sperm-donor? original?, cool as it is in concept, just doesn't compare to the idea of an army of jedi clones.

That is a much better idea for a movie.  I'd see it as Obi Wan being a Sith clone of Ben Kenobi.  Ben manages to turn Obi Wan to the Light Side in time for a climactic battle where the original Ben gets killed.  Obi Wan would then take up the mantle and serve in Ben's place as a Jedi Knight.  The cloning and killing of so many Jedi would, as you mentioned, create great disturbances in the Force, the confluence of which would result in the birth of Annakin Skywalker.  That might actually make it a better first episode.

Maybe one day Lucas will release a 20th Anniversary edition of the prequels when technology of the future can erase the memory of the original prequels and substitute it with something good.

[Reply #56 on:]

Oh, I'm sure lucas will find some reason to change the new trilogy eventually. Once technology permits, it would be nice to add more ships to those space battles; just to knock them up a notch, y'know. Also, the bit where anakin kills the kids is a bit too harsh; he'll have to add a scene showing that the kids attacked him first, making it self-defense. And there were no musical numbers, that's obviously got to be corrected eventually!

[Reply #57 on:]

Definitely; the movie needs a water ballet or something...

[Reply #58 on:]

! But then they finally show it, and it's like "oh, so it's just clones of one guy versus a bunch of droids. Sigh."

Yeah.. why they call it the Clone wars when there was far more droids than clones?

It was so hige lame and let down..
Ok, obviously it was not goint to be as awesome as we imagined for 20 years, but i allways imagined clone wars like a war of the republic/jedi vs an army of clones of some villain/organization that predated slighty the fall of the republic and the raise of the empire..

And now.. it results that it was a war of the republic against an agressive and beligerant separatist faction who used mikllions of droids and the republic just used clones as an army and the Jedis asumed their roles in just one hour in Geonosis without even asking the clones who droped from sky to rescue them calling them generals.

The bonus of this should be that its so lame and silly that the Civil war (Yavin to Endor and beyond) wich is an army of mostly clone troopers but with large numbers of "regular" humans vs an army of beings from all races (mostly humans)  should be several more magnitudes awesome to exploit and interesting..

but no.. Lucas is not going to use it and aparently for him anything newer than pre-Yavin is dead

[Reply #59 on:]

The way Zahn alluded to cloning in his books was a whole lot more interesting than what Lucas eventually did with it.

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*cough*

Ahem, or so a friend told me....

[Reply #60 on:]

Jefferson Starship.

Your opinion is the only one that matters to me Ben.

[Reply #61 on:]

Eh, the only thing I could see them doing to the Prequels is making the failed muppet Yoda from TPM a CGI Yoda.
But that would be extremely time consuming.

Also, my favourite books are the Novelization of ROTS and the sequel book to that, Dark Lord: Rise of Darth Vader. Both were really good.
Especially the ROTS book, so much more intense than the movie. I've read it like 5 times, it still kills me.

Also, is anyone going to the Celebration V Convention next month in Florida???
I'll be there

[Reply #62 on:]

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And Bea Arthur singing was completely necessary.

[Reply #63 on:]

I'm jealous! I've always wanted to go to a Star Wars convention but they are always so far away and I am too cheap/poor to travel. Let me know how it is.

I stopped reading Star Wars books right before the prequels came out. I liked some of the books a lot, but it just became too much for me to follow. It seems like there is a new book or comic every other week, and I just don't have the time to follow it anymore.

I think the movies work well enough on their own, I don't really need anything else...but I have heard good things about the ROTS novel.

[Reply #64 on:]

I think the movies work well enough on their own, I don't really need anything else...but I have heard good things about the ROTS novel.

Yeah, it keeps many of the better things intact. Including when Kit Fisto is killed, he is decapitated, and he still has a smile on his face, showing he is always well-minded and never angry.

[Reply #65 on:]

I'm jealous! I've always wanted to go to a Star Wars convention but they are always so far away and I am too cheap/poor to travel. Let me know how it is.

I stopped reading Star Wars books right before the prequels came out. I liked some of the books a lot, but it just became too much for me to follow. It seems like there is a new book or comic every other week, and I just don't have the time to follow it anymore.

I think the movies work well enough on their own, I don't really need anything else...but I have heard good things about the ROTS novel.

Well, Celebration IV was here in Los Angeles where I live, so I went to that. My husband couldnt make it to that one, so we had to go to CV. Even though its across the country!

And I dont really read the books. It's too confusing. I'm a movie genius, I love them, and know everything about them.
But I did read the novels of AOTC and ROTS, and I decided to read Dark Lord but I probably wont read anymore cause they just go way to far off...

[Reply #66 on:]

I started collecting the books when I was about 10. For some reason I've never kicked the habit, which means I've got about 70 or 80 of the things now.  Which is odd, because a great deal of them aren't any good... but, I guess, I don't read them for the purposes of quality.

[Reply #67 on:]

The only Star Wars books I ever read were really easy to read short novels about young Boba Fett. Actually quite entertaining, kinda like a video game in novel form.

[Reply #68 on:]

The only extended universe crap I ever had was a soundtrack to the Shadows of the Empire book.  It was not by John Williams and it wasn't that great.  It was more cohesive as a standalone record, but it wasn't particularly memorable.

[Reply #69 on:]

It was not by John Williams and it wasn't that great.

You mean George Lucas?

[Reply #70 on:]

It was not by John Williams and it wasn't that great.

You mean George Lucas?

No.

[Reply #71 on:]

I readed plenty of post-Yavin books and the three prequels books.. those are much better than the movies..

But not all books are good.. in fact i pretty much hate everything Kevin J Anderson wrote , except for the first Young Jedi novels.. the rest of his books, specially the infamous Jedi Academy trilogy is crap and its clear he has some penis size problem sinze all his novels are about who makes the biggest superweapon.

Thawn trilogy is still the perfection of SW on books, Thrawn is the best, not villain , but antagonist and its even hardly any reason to hate him.. he even rode in a standard Imperial Star Destroyer when almost ALL other imperial baddies allways rode in Executors or something bigger

[Reply #72 on:]

Darth Caedus only used a Star Destroyer... but he actually ended up being pretty lame.

[Reply #73 on:]

DrT: I remember that! I also bought the soundtrack, and thought it was really boring and lame.

Although later I ended up playing the Shadows of the Empire game, which featured music from the soundtrack of the book, and it sounded pretty good. So maybe I just lack imagination and need Star Wars-ey visuals to accompany the music in order to appreciate it.

[Reply #74 on:]

I read two of the X-Wing Squadron books which were pretty good, the Death Star novel and then a book that was written to go before Episode 3. Those are the only ones I've liked in the EU. I also attempted to read Rise of Darth Vader twice and failed to finish it despite me liking it. Damn laziness.

Now, actually on topic Empire Strikes Back is best hands down. A New Hope might've started it all off, but I watched Empire most. It was my most frequently-rented movie too until I broke down and bought it on DVD.

[Reply #75 on:]

I read two of the X-Wing Squadron books which were pretty good, the Death Star novel and then a book that was written to go before Episode 3. Those are the only ones I've liked in the EU. I also attempted to read Rise of Darth Vader twice and failed to finish it despite me liking it. Damn laziness.

The ending is the best part!! Really though, some of that book is boring and I just skipped past it. You have to finish it!!

[Reply #76 on:]

X-Wing books are awesome.. i got the firtst and they didnt edited any more in spanish ..
im thinking in getting them in english anyway...

[Reply #77 on:]

The X-wing ones were good, but the Thrawn trilogy and later duology were the best.

[Reply #78 on:]

I'd suggest that anything writen by Matthew Stover is definately worth reading.

[Reply #79 on:]

Second!...
Matthew Stover is a genius. His writing style is just fantastic and he made Revenge of The Sith an amazing book, so much better than the movie.