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« Reply #560 on: 08-15-2020 09:41 »

Sound of the Sky is a great little series; I've rewatched it many times :)
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« Reply #561 on: 08-15-2020 12:08 »


I don't know what Symphogear is even about, so I can't really compare and contrast them for you.


In Symphogear, creatures known as The Noise, which are partially out of phase with our material world, have returned from legend to threaten humanity. Conventional weapons are ineffective against them: only ancient relics, shards of legendary weapons encased in crystal pendants, are of any use. The crystals are activated by singing, which allows the wearer to manifest modern Valkyrie armour and transformable weaponry, known as Symphogear. Only a small number of individuals are compatible with the gear, and they all appear to be teenage schoolgirls (although it seems users will be able to continue using their gear into their early twenties at the very least). The show swings between goofy and violent, occasionally becoming slightly brutal. Most of the users have suffered physical or mental trauma in their past, which colours their personalities. They also live - in some cases borderline - "normal" lives between appearances of The Noise and other threats.
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« Reply #562 on: 08-15-2020 14:46 »

Sounds kind of like Fafner without the big stompy robots.
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« Reply #563 on: 08-15-2020 15:24 »

If you would like a taste, this clip gives a flavour of the action without any real spoilers. It's from the final season, which is considered to be the most polished. (Potentially NSFW depending on employer prude factor).
David A

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« Reply #564 on: 08-15-2020 15:56 »

Oh, uh, thanks, but no thanks?

Symphogear didn't look interesting to me before, and your description of it doesn't make it sound any more appealing to me.  I didn't mean to give an impression otherwise.

Like I said, I'll just stick to the classics.
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« Reply #565 on: 08-23-2020 00:55 »

I just rewatched the 90s anime of Berserk, ahh what a masterpiece. If there was a manga thread here I'd be talking about Berserk nonstop, so I'm a pretty big fan. Then I decided to give the 2016/2017 continuation a shot since I had the time, and man was that a huge mistake. They completely ruined the animation by having the character models be 3d, something Funimation is kind of known for by now. It retold the story of the manga just fine minus one or two plot inconcistencies, but the animation is just so hard to watch. Has anyone else here been repelled from a certain anime because of it's design or animation? 3D Animation shouldn't be so prominant in anime today imo.
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« Reply #566 on: 08-23-2020 07:10 »

I only dabble, but am starting Bebop from scratch and saw S1Ep06 last night. I've been listening to the soundtrack quite a lot, over the past several weeks, and it's an incredible sense of deja vu I get when watching some new scene, but the music is immediately familiar, and it takes me a moment to place it :)

Watching this in a nest of sorts, with very good immersion (better than being in the cinema, imo), and the soundtrack, and foley, and the grand scale of the classic animation is just mindblowingly good. And who can skip the credits when that impossibly catchy riff is playing? Not me. :)

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« Reply #567 on: 08-23-2020 20:11 »

I never skip the credits, no matter what I'm watching.

Has anyone else here been repelled from a certain anime because of it's design or animation?

Oh, absolutely.  If it isn't visually appealing, why am I even watching?  That's kind of the whole point of animation, isn't it?

I'm generally not a fan of 3D animation.  Of course, there are exceptions, like Kemono Friends, where the bad CGI is part of the show's charm, but I prefer traditional animation.
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« Reply #568 on: 08-27-2020 22:40 »

I'm really liking Sound of the Sky so far, so I took a look on Amazon for the DVDs. Only one result: £153 for the three disc set. Okay, I don't like it that much: sheesh.

Anyways,
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« Reply #569 on: 08-28-2020 00:41 »

rightstufanime.com has it on Blu-Ray for $37.49.  I'm not sure how much they charge for overseas shipping though.
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« Reply #570 on: 08-28-2020 03:01 »

i dont know if it qualifies as anime (as it was partly done in Japan aparently)

but i just finished the series Valerian and Laureline: Time Jam

Never did read the comics, tought im very familiar with the series and their importance/influence in space fantasy  .. after the 2017 movie fiasco i have to say that despite its flaws i quite enjoyed the animated series..

Its a history from start to end.. no cliffhangers.. its obviously targeted at young audiences and that shows (and time travel is treated quite messy and carelessly).. but its quintesential classic pulp space opera.. enjoyed the settings and had a quite good deal of characters , and the chemistry between the 2 mains is quite good and amusing ..
its like a guilty pleasure.. i know it has deep flaws and cheesiness but i really enjoyed and could .. unlike the movie wich was quite a mess and border insult..

Kinda made me wish they would had done more but overall its 40 episodes.. wich is esentually 2 typical anime seasons or 3 modern day seasons (tough it has quite a lot of fillers and the main story arc has barelly some eps in the middle and only kicks in a final arc in the final 6 or so eps)..
And again animation is i think the perfect format for an adaptation of those comics..
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« Reply #571 on: 08-28-2020 09:50 »

Oh, joy...another anime to add to the "have to check this out" queue. :-/

And this was the lowest-cost method to ship, but ended up coming from Japan, by FedEx, even, and showed up on Monday:



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« Reply #572 on: 08-29-2020 02:33 »

Oh, joy...another anime to add to the "have to check this out" queue. :-/

And this was the lowest-cost method to ship, but ended up coming from Japan, by FedEx, even, and showed up on Monday:





Last month i finally bought a model kit i been waiting for long time.. the dreadnought class space battleship from Space BattleShip Yamato 2202 (known as StarBlazers 2202 in the US).. its an updated version of the 1978 Yamato 2's "EDF Battleship"..



What does this have to do with the tshirt?

they shiped it to me from Japan.. 44€ the kit.. 26€ shiping and 30€ customs... i was billed by customs nearly as much as the kit itself costs
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« Reply #573 on: 08-30-2020 23:33 »

Those fees to import seem ludicrous!

I've only watched parts of a few episodes. There is a powerful, ineffable connotation to the name Yamato, once even representing the country as a whole, and which was imbued in one of three sister ships constructed around the beginning of WW2. The poignantly tragic, honorable and futile end to the Yamato is detailed in A Glorious Way to Die.

Also, Spike Lives! (covid hair and all) :)


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« Reply #574 on: 08-31-2020 10:12 »

Not surprisingly, the Yamato shows up in a lot of anime.  The second season finale of Strike Witches features the Yamato, and it appears again in the movie.  Kantai Collection even has an anthropomorphic personification of the Yamato, in case you're into that sort of thing.
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« Reply #575 on: 08-31-2020 10:58 »

High School Fleet used the Musashi instead, possibly because the Yamato is apparently so over-used.
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« Reply #576 on: 08-31-2020 11:44 »

Why does everyone always forget about the third sister ship, Shinano!?

* * Tachy feels better, now  * *

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« Reply #577 on: 08-31-2020 21:05 »
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Actually, at the very beginning of HSF there is another battleship with different ID stripes to the Musashi...

Okay, just checked and it has three forward turrets, designation K117, and blue ID stripes: the Musashi has red stripes and the designation Y118 when it appears later in the episode. So the Yamato does appear at the start of the show, albeit briefly and not named, to inspire the main character.
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« Reply #578 on: 09-01-2020 17:19 »
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Why does everyone always forget about the third sister ship, Shinano!?

* * Tachy feels better, now  * *


it had quite a sad fate.. she was converted to a carrier and aparently despite being a huge carrier for the time she wasnt even meant to serve in the main lines.. but as a kind of rear carrier to serve as plane storage and "mid point" to deliver planes to the front lines.. and then she was unceremoniusly sank by a submarine.. with huge loss of life but oddly very quietly as the navy didnt want the news to impact morale..

In the second "season" of the remake of SpaceBattleship Yamato (2202) a sister ship appears called Ginga (Galaxy) bearing hull number BBY-03 (Yamato being BBY-01) and refered to as a "Yamato class"... aparently this tracks to a previous SBY movie called "Resurrection" where in the directos cut the same Yamato variant appears at the end called Musashi ..  In 2202 Musashi doesnt show up but presimily she is BBY-02 .. as the model kit for the BBy-03 Ginga came with decals to mark it as BBY-02 Mushashi... Shinano is still nowhere to be seen.. tought a support ship called Shinano (esentially a torpedo boat) showed up in Resurrecion

Something fishi is going on here as there are rumors that the decision to use Ginga instead of Mushashi was "political" .. that would go for Shinano too

That doesnt help that in the show the name of famous WW2 jap navy ships regularly shows up.. including the ships that escorted Yamato in operation Ten Go (her last mission)



Also curious and related to the kit i bought.. in 2202 all the Dreadnought class ships are named after aparently D-letter british ships (Diana, Dunkan, Devastation, Dartmouth ,  Dublin ,Drake ,Doris ,Dominion ,Dido , Diamond ,Diadem , Devonshire  , Dartmouth  and Danae, Prometheus being the letter exception)

and just as the original series season 3 aparently the Arizona will appear in future seasons
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« Reply #579 on: 09-01-2020 19:20 »

It's been a long time since I read this (Amazon's image, not mine) and I recall that there were a lot of political and military winds blowing at cross-purposes when they decided to change her into a carrier at seemingly the last minute.

(click pic for the Amazon page)


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« Reply #580 on: 09-01-2020 22:27 »

Amazon couldn't find a picture that didn't have a glare obscuring part of the cover text?
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« Reply #581 on: 09-01-2020 23:11 »

Apparently not :)

* * Tachy wanders off to see whether his copy A) can be found, and B) whether it has the same cover * *

Yep!



But more seriously:

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« Reply #582 on: 09-01-2020 23:54 »

I was mostly just poking fun at Amazon's low standards, but thanks for the pictures.  It sounds like an interesting book.

I'm getting anime recommendations in the movie review thread, and book recommendations in the anime thread now.  PEEL is such an odd message board.
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« Reply #583 on: 09-02-2020 00:54 »
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Yeah, I was just having fun, too :)

I think it was Friday or Saturday when I began the second season of Cowboy Bebop, which opened with a Jet Black backstory, tied into a current bounty job, of course. I am repeatedly blown away by the the style, the animation (and on a relatively big screen with your face right up to it, it has even more impact), and of course, as discussed, the soundtrack. I feel like an obsessed teenage fan...and I'm loving it. 💓

Was just going to upload a snap of the bar scene, but imgur is suddenly not accepting uploads...even of images I uploaded earlier, and not even with chromium...tried the beta and classic uploaders.

* edit *

Guessing that it was some kind of issue with their cookie acceptance script...odd that it hit like it did. In any case, from an early part of the ep, where Jet goes looking for his ex, and finds her.



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« Reply #584 on: 09-02-2020 12:34 »


I think it was Friday or Saturday when I began the second season of Cowboy Bebop

This reminds me that Cowboy Beebop will probably be my next series to watch .. since everything i watch is still in limbo or in the future (Mandalorian for october presumibly but no trailer yet.. Expanse for december but no trailer yet and with the shitstorm of one actor alegedly uncovered as a sex predator we will se if they even dont reshot his scenes on season 5), Orville nowhere to be seen.. also Discovery tought i dont particulary long to see it..


It's been a long time since I read this (Amazon's image, not mine) and I recall that there were a lot of political and military winds blowing at cross-purposes when they decided to change her into a carrier at seemingly the last minute.

WWII redefined naval combat in that battleships lost their dominance spot to aircraft carriers.. the jap knew that as their priority when they began to attack USA was to sink their carriers... but at the same time they didnt aparently reacted in time to Midway when it was clear that what they needed was not super battleships but carriers.. the allies adapted much quiker and they produced lots of lighter carriers based on cruiser hulls wich were not as capable but allowed to carry a small air wing to escort or complement fleets
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« Reply #585 on: 09-09-2020 08:15 »

I'm stunned. Literally. I just watched the ending of Bebop Episode #13 Jupiter Jazz (part II). And as I got near the end I was surprised to find it pretty gripping...and then I saw it in the sky, and it all came full-circle, like a huge punch in the emotional gut. Just wow.

And the fucking soundtrack. I cannot believe that I've missed out on this for so many years. I'm watching with the Japanese soundtrack and English subtitles.

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« Reply #586 on: 09-09-2020 16:26 »

I don't wanna spoil anything, but if you liked that, you're gonna love the ending of the finale.

I've never watched Bebop in Japanese.  Who's even in that?  *Checks cast list.*  Megumi Hayashibara as Faye?  Trying to imagine that makes my head hurt a little bit, but in a good way.
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« Reply #587 on: 09-09-2020 18:47 »

Thanks for the encouragement, David :) The other day I was surprised to realize that even though there are four discs in the CB set, there are only 26 episodes. Plus the movie*. And yeah, the fact that I felt a lot of empathy for Gren really amplified the completion of that plot arc...the sudden, stark realization that the old man may not have been speaking to the child in a purely metaphoric sense, but from a much deeper, sadder perspective...I was pretty gutted, frankly, in a bittersweet, beautiful sort of way. It was really special, and the passion of everyone involved with this show is incredible.

Now, let's see...what other anime have I caught a few episodes of that might be something I'd enjoy watching from start to finish? Ghost in the Shell, perhaps?


*and I just realized that although I have the movie separately, it might also be on one of the discs in the set.

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« Reply #588 on: 09-09-2020 19:27 »
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Canonically, the movie takes place between episodes 22 and 23, but it's really its own self-contained story, so you can just watch it after you finish the series, or whenever you want to.  It doesn't really matter.

If you're looking for another series to watch after you finish Bebop,  you might enjoy Samurai Champloo (or maybe Space Dandy, but not everyone seems to like that one as much as I do).
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« Reply #589 on: 09-09-2020 22:06 »

I started watching Space Dandy, I liked it.  I also liked the Cowboy Bebop movie a lot.
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« Reply #590 on: 09-10-2020 00:52 »

Nick, have you seen Goblin Slayer yet?  I think that you'd probably like it.
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« Reply #591 on: 09-10-2020 02:16 »

Very good to hear from you, Nick.

I think I may have seen a trailer for Space Dandy.

Given that I'd seen a half-dozen CB episodes including he Ed origin story, I watched the movie before starting to watch the series sequentially. And I think it was the first movie I watched on my new setup, and the sound and animation was so good that I skipped back frequently to re-watch parts of it.

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« Reply #592 on: 09-10-2020 02:57 »

Yeah, if you've seen enough of the show to know who the four main characters are, that's really all you need to enjoy the movie.  Although, you might want to watch it again after you've seen episode 22.  During the parade scene, there's a blink-and-you'll-miss-it cameo appearance by one of the characters from that episode.
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« Reply #593 on: 09-10-2020 19:47 »

Just to go back to the subject of model kits for a moment, someone is releasing a series of 1:1 scale plastic kits of tank tracks - one link and pin per box - starting with the Panzer III/IV. I can see that one being popular with GuP fans, and four or five links would actually make an interesting photographic prop. It's to be followed by the M4 Sherman track, so another one from the show. But again they would probably have to be imported at prohibitive cost, so not much chance of actually getting any.
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« Reply #594 on: 09-29-2020 03:56 »

Binged the last few episodes of Bebop this weekend. I thought I'd read that only 24 eps were broadcast? But in any case my set has 26, ending with Real Folk Blues parts 1 & 2. Then I listened to some commentary from the English voice actors and voice director, and their love for the show is infectious.

At some point I'll certainly go back and watch the dubbed versions with Steve Blum, Beau, and the rest. And if I caught the dialog properly, the English voice acting director also voiced the principle character in Ghost in the Shell? ...another series I've only caught a half-dozen episodes of. Plus the film with ScarJo. Oh, and she of course voiced Julia in Bebop.

So many shows. I think I get the gist of GITS, and expect that I'll enjoy the series.

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« Reply #595 on: 09-30-2020 08:07 »

Binged the last few episodes of Bebop this weekend. I thought I'd read that only 24 eps were broadcast? But in any case my set has 26, ending with Real Folk Blues parts 1 & 2.

As far as I know, all 26 episodes were shown when the series was originally broadcast in Japan.  A few episodes (6, 8, and 22) were skipped due to content when the series was first shown on Cartoon Network.  (This was right after 9/11.)  All three episodes were eventually shown during later runs of the series.  Cartoon Network also stopped showing episode 19 after the Space Shuttle Columbia disaster, but I'm pretty sure that they eventually started showing that one again too.

And if I caught the dialog properly, the English voice acting director also voiced the principle character in Ghost in the Shell? ...another series I've only caught a half-dozen episodes of. Plus the film with ScarJo. Oh, and she of course voiced Julia in Bebop.

That would be Mary Elizabeth McGlynn.  She's been in quite a few things, as you can see here.

So many shows. I think I get the gist of GITS, and expect that I'll enjoy the series.

GITS is a good show.  Like Bebop, it has an overarching storyline, but many, if not most, episodes are stand alone stories, so to speak.

I would like to point out one thing, however.  Major Kusanagi (the principle character, as you call her) isn't actually the main character.  The real main characters are the Tachikomas.  You might not understand what I mean at first, but if you watch the entire series from beginning to end, you'll see that GITS is really their story, and the human characters are really just the supporting cast.
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« Reply #596 on: 09-30-2020 08:56 »


She's been in quite a few things, as you can see here.


Wow.


I would like to point out one thing, however.  Major Kusanagi (the principle character, as you call her) isn't actually the main character.  The real main characters are the Tachikomas.  You might not understand what I mean at first, but if you watch the entire series from beginning to end, you'll see that GITS is really their story, and the human characters are really just the supporting cast.


Thanks for the correction. I sorta think I know what you mean by the Tachikomas.  It's really hard for me to get into the right frame of mind to start something, but for sure I'll arrive at that point eventually.


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« Reply #597 on: 09-30-2020 10:28 »

To be fair, the Major is the most important human character, and she does get a number of episodes that focus on her.  (Other characters get their own focus episodes as well.)

Ultimately though, it's really all about these guys:
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« Reply #598 on: 10-24-2020 21:10 »

Just a quick observation on Sound of the Sky. Overall I liked it, but feel that the ending was a bit rushed. I appreciate that some events will have to happen off camera, but it seemed like there was only enough time left to do the minimum required to wrap everything up. The final OVA helped, but as far as filling-in was concerned it only really addressed Rio's arc. So yes it was good, but could have used another episode or a redistribution of time from earlier episodes (one in particular). I have to say I was a little disappointed that it didn't quite meet my expectations after the initial build-up, but perhaps it just did too good a job at the start.
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« Reply #599 on: 12-08-2020 01:41 »

If you like sport climbing, you might enjoy Iwakakeru -Sport Climbing Girls-.  I'm not even interested in climbing, and I'm enjoying it so far.

Then again, I'm not particularly interested in kendo, shogi, cheerleading, baseball, or tankery, and I've watched shows about all of those sports.
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