Gone but not forgotten, RIP celebrity thread

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She was certainly the best Prime Minister in my life time.

People who rejoice at another person's death have something wrong with them

What she did in taking on the unions was fantastic; they thought they could bring down a democratically elected government (and in the past had done).

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This brings up something interesting for me. Tweek, does that sentiment also hold true for Osama Bin Laden? Because plenty of people were definitely cheering at that. (I found all the rejoicing disgusting.)

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When I saw a video clip of Obama stating that Osama Bin Laden was dead, it seemed odd to me that it was stated as he was killed by USA (army).

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This brings up something interesting for me. Tweek, does that sentiment also hold true for Osama Bin Laden? Because plenty of people were definitely cheering at that. (I found all the rejoicing disgusting.)

In my opinion, technically, yes, though only to a degree. I honestly find it barbaric to go outside and rejoice in the death of another person, though the emotions behind it are quite understandable. I think many of us will probably experience some feeling of satisfaction over the demise of certain people, in certain circumstances, and I won't pretend I haven't. Instances when sometimes you feel some people get what they deserve, like, for instance, prolific criminals who attempt to shoot their way to freedom, or at least go out in a blaze of glory, but just end up sprawled in a stupid pose on the sidewalk. Maybe they wanted to kill others, but were literally stopped dead before they could.
I can't claim that I don't often feel a sense of "Ha!" when I see news stories like that. Then I move on.

Then you have people like Osama Bin Laden - he callously plotted and organised the murders of thousands of people across the world. Then he hid. Then he got stopped. You can understand people feeling that justice was served.

Shamil Basayev - notorious Chechen warlord, whose only remorse about Beslan was that he couldn't have done it in a larger Russian city and involved more people. Bastard. Died when the bombs he was transporting in a truck blew up prematurely (or the FSB tinkered with them).
LOL!

Then you have people like Gaddafi and Saddam Hussein - you could claim that the celebrations were at least partially tied to the fact that with their deaths, their oppressive regimes had also been brought crashing down, and that a terrible chapter in the lives of their people was at an end (though the next chapter may not have been much better, hohohosatire!)

But Margaret Thatcher hasn't been in power for over 22 years. She was effectively overthrown at that point too, so its not like she's been a huge personal influence on  the day-to-day running of the country since then either, which of course has seen 4 different Prime Ministers, from two different parties since then. She largely retired from private life a decade ago and has been suffering from dementia that's basically robbed her and her family of any real semblance of who she once was. She was essentially just an 87-year-old woman, who died from a stroke.

So what part of her death are we celebrating, exactly? And injuring police officers in the process?

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Yes; I found the rejoicing distasteful... had he been captured then rejoicing would be logical. I guess in his case some might claim that they were really rejoicing because he had been stopped from doing more bad things.

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"It's a hell of a thing killin' a man. You take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have."

From Unforgiven.

That scene is probably the heart of the entire movie.

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Perhaps not well known by name, but everyone here remembers Richard LeParmentier for this scene...

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No, not really...

Edit: Oh ya, guy getting force choked. The image was familiar, but I couldn't place it exactly.

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Pat Summerall also died.  We all remember him too, right?

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http://www.jambase.com/Articles/118431/Richie-Havens-Dies-at-Age-72

RIP Richie Havens

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RIP country singer George Jones

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Jeff Hanneman, guitarist for Slayer, died on Thursday.

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Has no one here jumped?? RIP Chris Kelly of Kriss Kross.

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Has no one here jumped?? RIP Chris Kelly of Kriss Kross.

Indeed. Nothing reminds you more of your mortality when someone younger than you dies...

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Bill Orr, former First Gentleman of Nebraska, died.

He was the husband of Kay Orr, who ran against Helen Boosalis; that's right, the first gubenatorial race against two women.

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I'm assuming there was a lot of mud-wrestlingslinging involved in that particular race?

Also: I like the term "first gentleman"; it sounds a lot nicer than "first lady," which has always struck me as a little informal (like, "Hey, lady, you got some spare change for bus fare?").

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I'm assuming there was a lot of mud-wrestlingslinging involved in that particular race?

Yes, there were a few sexist comments ... For instance, Nebraska Senator John DeCamp joined the race so that "it wouldn't just be a beauty contest."

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I'm assuming there was a lot of mud-wrestlingslinging involved in that particular race?

Also: I like the term "first gentleman"; it sounds a lot nicer than "first lady," which has always struck me as a little informal (like, "Hey, lady, you got some spare change for bus fare?").

How American must one be to think that 'Lady' is an informal title.

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Maybe it's the infusion of American culture into Britain but even I sometimes feel "Lady" sounds too informal - well, except when it's blatantly a title (and I've never had a problem with First Lady - I actually wondered what the most common male equivalent was) - but even then when there was an argument about what title the first female Law Lord in the UK should be given, "Law Lady" sounded to me like a slur against a female Police Officer, or something. But I digress...

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Ray Harryhausen special effects maestro.

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How American must one be to think that 'Lady' is an informal title.

I mean, my Ford pick-up's not painted red, white, and blue or anything--but I guess I'm pretty American.

Seriously, though, I think I have this prejudice against the word "lady" because I often hear my coworkers referring to female customers as "that lady," and I find it kind of dismissive. It seems like the feminine equivalent of "that guy"--a term that, though lacking in overt disrespect, is by no means formal.

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Ray Harryhausen special effects maestro.

just saw this, always sad to lose such a great talent

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Gorky, I understand what you mean. I notice there's usually a tone of criticism when people use "mother" instead of "mom" in a sentence. Things like, "Knowing my mother, she'll have spent every dime of my father's life insurance money before he's even in the ground." Even though mother is a perfectly useful word for demonstrating the female side of the parent-child equation, it just is used with a certain ring to it that comes off as somewhat negative in casual conversation.

When it comes to "lady" and "ladies," though, I use the terms frequently for groups of women I know, like "Oh, the ladies in my office held a baby shower for someone in accounting." In that case, it's just a collective term instead of a loaded one. But when "lady" is used about a woman with whom one is not familiar, it usually is used in a negative way. "Some lady cut me off in traffic," or "Some lady in the doctor's office was complaining about how much her bunions hurt as she ground her 4 inch heels into the waiting room carpet." I'm not one for cursing, so maybe other people come right out and say "some bitch," but I reserve "lady" for that kind of use.

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RIP Dr Joyce Brothers

http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/13/us/joyce-brother-obit/index.html

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RIP racing Legend Dick Trickle

http://www.wcti12.com/news/officials-retired-race-car-driver-dick-trickle-dies-from-apparent-suicide/-/13530444/20179232/-/15f5ft8/-/index.html

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RIP Anthony "Romanthony" Moore

House Producer and singer - sang Daft Punk's "One More Time" and was a major component in the Discovery album. Died several weeks ago of unclear causes. Was only 45.

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Richard LeParmentier; best known for his portrayal of Admiral Motti; a relatively small part in the original Star Wars has died.

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Look up.  Higher.  A bit higher.  There!

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http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/ray-manzarek-doors-keyboardist-dead-at-74-20130520

RIP Doors keyboardist Ray Manzarek

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^^^-- This was confirmed to be an internet hoax - sry I don't have a confirming link at the moment.

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Then a lot of websites are getting trolled.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-207_162-57585387/ray-manzarek-founding-member-of-the-doors-dies-at-74/

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/music-arts/doors-ray-manzarek-dead-74-article-1.1349466

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/20/ray-manzarek-dead-the-doors_n_3308853.html


http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20702122,00.html?xid=rss-topheadlines

And there are many more.

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Arrrgh - I saw a retraction on FB, linking to this, then it's been bouncing back and forth.  Sad if it's true.

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Yes, its sad.

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Arrrgh - I saw a retraction on FB, linking to this, then it's been bouncing back and forth.  Sad if it's true.

I was going to send that link to a local DJ, who was going to do a tribute to Manzarek, but the link is gone. Could this thus be a rare "X is alive" internet hoax?

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Author Tom Sharpe has died

His books were so funny that I laughed until I cried reading some of them.

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Apparently RIP James gandolfini

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I just heard about him dying on the radio; very sad

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RIP glee star Cory Montieth at only 31

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I never really liked Glee,but when I saw his photo in the news(I'm bad remembereing how actors are named) and recognized him, I literally yelled "WHY", Cory was talented.

Anyway I'm losing my faith for humanity,a lot of people saying "Oh yes! Glee is over" or "What is gonna happen with my ship?" makes me want to punch something,I mean oh my god dude! someone died.

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It's a sad yet familiar tale of a young talented person whose talent is only matched by an addiction, and the addiction usually wins