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Bend-err

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You don't like Asians?
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DannyJC13

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Well yeah, but....
YOU DON'T LIKE CYCLOPS?
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Bend-err

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Not quite, I prefer two eyes.
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DannyJC13

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Me or Danny?
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DannyJC13

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Not really a cartoon, but Lucy Kuo after she gets her powers in inFAMOUS 2...  Her personality is annoying though. ALL the time.
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coldangel

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No. Although she sometimes occupies more than one body/chassis. So... yes.
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coldangel

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Funny thing, though she frequently wears nothing, or next to nothing, I find her most appealing when in full combat gear.
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winna

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coldangel

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Vash, eh? Always kinda figured him for a queer.
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David A

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Vash, eh? Always kinda figured him for a queer. Not sure what series you were watching then. Vash seemed to show a healthy interest in women in the early episodes, though how much of that was just an act is debatable. In anycase, he did eventually seem to develop feelings for Meryl, although how much of that was due to her resemblance to his foster mother Rem is also debatable. Hrmm... I'm fairly sure that's not the case.... although he did often exude a certain level of asexuality. I guess he was just more concerned with the wonderment of life on a grand scale to be caught up by a few base urges. There's also the fact that the only lifeform biologically relateable to him was his brother, whom he possessed a specific rivalry with. Another thing to consider is the fact that Vash is effectively immortal, while he's very much aware that humans are not. Forming such an intimate bond with a human would be ultimately painful for Vash as she would eventually grow old and die and he wouldn't. He may have wanted to avoid such attachments. I don't know that I agreed with all of Vash's perspective. As children, despite the sociopathic implications, Knives arguments for not saving the fly were themselves a caring of existence in sorts. Existence is violent and chaotic... that violence and chaos is a necessary catalyst for the beauty of life and order that we are privileged to see today. Knives' arguments are reasonable enough when he's talking about spiders and butterflies. The problem is that he extends the argument to humans. Knives can do this because he sees himself as a lifeform superior to humans. Vash refuses to view humans as inferior, so he can't agree with Knives. Knives killing the spider is similar to the sort of cruelty to animals exibited by children who grow up to be serial killers; in his case it didn't take very long.
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Vash, eh? Always kinda figured him for a queer. Not sure what series you were watching then. Vash seemed to show a healthy interest in women in the early episodes, though how much of that was just an act is debatable. In anycase, he did eventually seem to develop feelings for Meryl, although how much of that was due to her resemblance to his foster mother Rem is also debatable.
Hrmm... I'm fairly sure that's not the case.... although he did often exude a certain level of asexuality. I guess he was just more concerned with the wonderment of life on a grand scale to be caught up by a few base urges. There's also the fact that the only lifeform biologically relateable to him was his brother, whom he possessed a specific rivalry with. Another thing to consider is the fact that Vash is effectively immortal, while he's very much aware that humans are not. Forming such an intimate bond with a human would be ultimately painful for Vash as she would eventually grow old and die and he wouldn't. He may have wanted to avoid such attachments.
I don't know that I agreed with all of Vash's perspective. As children, despite the sociopathic implications, Knives arguments for not saving the fly were themselves a caring of existence in sorts. Existence is violent and chaotic... that violence and chaos is a necessary catalyst for the beauty of life and order that we are privileged to see today. Knives' arguments are reasonable enough when he's talking about spiders and butterflies. The problem is that he extends the argument to humans. Knives can do this because he sees himself as a lifeform superior to humans. Vash refuses to view humans as inferior, so he can't agree with Knives.
Knives killing the spider is similar to the sort of cruelty to animals exibited by children who grow up to be serial killers; in his case it didn't take very long.
In response to everything..the reason I love Vash is because he's so complex. I definitely don't see him as gay, but I also think a lot of his skirt chasing in the early episodes is part of his goofy mask that he wears to cover his inner turmoil. Wolfwood was the first person to see through the mask. Vash sees "taking care of Knives" as his responsibility and it weighs heavily on him. Both are on either side of a spectrum taken respectivly too far. Vash does let go of his ideals at the end of the anime, after he defeats Knives. It doesn't appear that he killed Knives, as he has his brother slung over his shoulder and his wounds bandaged as he returns to Meryl and Millie. But he does "talk" to Rem saying that he is going to follow his own path now. This leads me to believe that he isn't going to be as strict about his no killing policy as he used to be. In the manga at least, Knives has much more of a reason to hate humans than he does in the anime (he sees old videos of a sister of theirs, a female plant named Tessla who was born before them, who was experimented on by the crew -- this is why Rem took it upon herself to protect the twins), but he does take it too far. If he can ever change this point of view is questionable. He is also a tortured man, traumatized by his abuse as a child at the hands of Steve and the other crew, that it was taken to a level of insanity. As I have stated in other Futurama posts, I am a die-hard shipper...so I love the idea that Vash loves Meryl at some level. She definitely is in love with him. But if he would ever act on it...who knows. He would definitly be aware of the fact that she would grow old and die before him, and he has such an inferiority complex, that he seems to think that he doesnt deserve to be happy.
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In response to everything..the reason I love Vash is because he's so complex. I definitely don't see him as gay, but I also think a lot of his skirt chasing in the early episodes is part of his goofy mask that he wears to cover his inner turmoil. Wolfwood was the first person to see through the mask. Vash sees "taking care of Knives" as his responsibility and it weighs heavily on him. Both are on either side of a spectrum taken respectivly too far. Vash does let go of his ideals at the end of the anime, after he defeats Knives. It doesn't appear that he killed Knives, as he has his brother slung over his shoulder and his wounds bandaged as he returns to Meryl and Millie. But he does "talk" to Rem saying that he is going to follow his own path now. This leads me to believe that he isn't going to be as strict about his no killing policy as he used to be. I don't know that he's going to be any less strict about not killing, but at the same time, I don't think that he's going to let the guilt of his past failures weigh him down anymore. I don't think that he's abandoning his ideals, as that would run counter to the message of the entire series. The ending is somewhat ambiguous however, and the fact that he leaves behind his red coat does support your interpretation somewhat. In the manga at least, Knives has much more of a reason to hate humans than he does in the anime (he sees old videos of a sister of theirs, a female plant named Tessla who was born before them, who was experimented on by the crew -- this is why Rem took it upon herself to protect the twins), but he does take it too far. If he can ever change this point of view is questionable. He is also a tortured man, traumatized by his abuse as a child at the hands of Steve and the other crew, that it was taken to a level of insanity. And the actions of a few somehow justify his desire to exterminate the entire species, including those who weren't even born yet at the time. Sure. Kill the spiders (humans) to save the butterflies (plants). Funny how Knives never bothers to ask the other plants how they feel about it. As I have stated in other Futurama posts, I am a die-hard shipper...so I love the idea that Vash loves Meryl at some level. She definitely is in love with him. But if he would ever act on it...who knows. He would definitly be aware of the fact that she would grow old and die before him, and he has such an inferiority complex, that he seems to think that he doesnt deserve to be happy. I don't think that it's an inferiority complex. It's more like he has survivor's guilt, both over what happened to Rem and the crew, and over what happened in July. Also, on some level Vash blames himself for all the evil that Knives has ever commited, because he believes that he could have stopped Knives if he had tried harder. However, I do think that he's gotten over this by the end of the anime, and he can finally allow himself to be happy now, and maybe even allow himself to fall in love with Meryl, even though he knows that he would someday have to lose her.
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I don't actually remember too much of that anime. I recall a big tall woman who seemed a little slow. And Vash was a slapstick nutter with a cybernetic arm who wore John Lennon glasses for no apparent reason. Not enough explanation was given as to how exactly he and his brother came into existence. I can accept a humanoid plant on face value... but how? Why?
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Little Mermaid wasn't bad either, and I know how much you all love redheads. She is a mermaid, though.
The other day, I was watching The Little Mermaid with a friend who, in the middle of "Part of Your World," said of Ariel, "She's so hot." I found her proclamation amusing, but not inaccurate. I've always thought of Ariel as the prettiest Disney princess, with Belle as a close second. Speaking of Disney characters: I know it's common--if not a bit creepy--for people to say they found the Beast more attractive before he turned human. But yesterday, when I went to see Beauty and the Beast in 3D, I found myself strangely drawn to Lumiere--which is way, way creepier.  He's just so debonair, you know? And I only like him as a candelabra--a preference that I find so very, very disturbing. I'm convinced it's the accent and the flirty eyebrows, but still. I'm fucking weird.
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Little Mermaid wasn't bad either, and I know how much you all love redheads. She is a mermaid, though.
The other day, I was watching The Little Mermaid with a friend who, in the middle of "Part of Your World," said of Ariel, "She's so hot." I found her proclamation amusing, but not inaccurate. I've always thought of Ariel as the prettiest Disney princess, with Belle as a close second.
Speaking of Disney characters: I know it's common--if not a bit creepy--for people to say they found the Beast more attractive before he turned human. But yesterday, when I went to see Beauty and the Beast in 3D, I found myself strangely drawn to Lumiere--which is way, way creepier.

He's just so debonair, you know? And I only like him as a candelabra--a preference that I find so very, very disturbing. I'm convinced it's the accent and the flirty eyebrows, but still. I'm fucking weird.
You're cool. See, when they humanized Lumier they attempted to keep his candelabra appearance but gave him this weird-ass chin in the process... So he's more appealing as a candelabra than as a human. Same with Beast; it's not so much I find him hot as an animal but his design is appealing and intriguing more so than his fugly Tarzan/ Eric lovechild human self. HIS EYEBROWS, GAWD DAMN.... No wonder I hate him as a human... That and his lips are weird lookin'. Anyways, between his chin and ridiculous hairdo, Lumier is quite an awkward cartoon human if I ever saw one. 
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