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Ralph Snart

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« Reply #120 on: 05-29-2007 07:40 »

My comcast account hates non-Americans, so shoot the message to eleanor_999@hotmail.com

Urban Legend
« Reply #121 on: 05-29-2007 15:44 »

It's funny because comcast technical support is actualy located about a half hour from where I live. Sent one to the new address.

Urban Legend
« Reply #122 on: 05-29-2007 22:31 »

Triple Draft coming in two weeks.  That'll be good to see new pushes and new rivals.
Urban Legend
« Reply #123 on: 06-01-2007 19:52 »

Is the book by Dynamite Kid, "Pure Dynamite", any good? He sounds interesting enough..
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« Reply #124 on: 06-04-2007 11:12 »

Jimmy Cornette has a melt down at a Dairy Queen.  Real stuff and funny as hell.

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« Reply #125 on: 06-09-2007 21:40 »

Who can resist an Iron Shiek meltdown?

Not for virgin ears.  Enjoy.

HookerBot 5000

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« Reply #126 on: 06-10-2007 13:37 »

I know this is entirely random, but I actually watched an ep today on Sky Sports 3, and actually featured some of the people I recognise-Benoit and the Edge. I have no idea if this is old or anything, but it was for the title thing. Edge's hair is cool.

Urban Legend
« Reply #127 on: 06-11-2007 13:26 »

The draft is tonight.  It's rumored that Chris Benoit is being drafted to RAW and Visera is being drafted to ECW.  Can't wait to see who else gets drafted.

This news is from WWE.com

WWE Hall of Famer Bret Hart will be among the many offering words of appreciation for Mr. McMahon tonight.

While I don't expect Bret Hart to enter the ring and give a speech, I'm interested in any news about the Hitman.

to Ralph Snart-  I don't know if you've answered this, but did you have a stage name when you wrested, or did you just go by your real name?
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« Reply #128 on: 06-11-2007 13:37 »

Originally posted by fryfanSpyOrama:

to Ralph Snart-  I don't know if you've answered this, but did you have a stage name when you wrested, or did you just go by your real name?

I was just thinking that actually...

great minds think alike huh?
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« Reply #129 on: 06-11-2007 18:09 »
« Last Edit on: 06-11-2007 18:09 »

Fabulous Frank Monte.  That name was given to me by promoter Henry Marcus 10 minutes before my first match.  I wanted to go by Frank Lamont, but Henry said it sounded to French and fag-ish (he words, not mine).

I'm not to be confused with The Alaskin Frank Monte.

My first mentor on the road was Tim Woods (Mr. Wrestling I), then Swede Hansen.  I got the holy hell beaten out of me by an coked-up Jimmy Snuka, so Gene Anderson told me I had guts and called Ole Anderson (the booker in Georgia).  Gene got me a tryout in Georgia to be a jobber to Tommy Rich.  Only after my partners in crime Buzz Sawyer and Matt Borne arrived in Georgia did we start making the midcards and real money.

Do a youtube lookup for Buzz Sawyer - that SOB was my best friend and he was legit insane.  Even though he was only 6 feet tall and 230 pounds, the superheavyweights like Stan Hansen, Bill Watts and many others wouldn't screw with him - Buzz's coke-fueled interviews were things of pure gold.

Things are different today - back then we had 33 territories to work in, now there's the WWE, TNA and some small independents.  If you're not a butt-buddy of Vince McMahon or his son-in-law, Paul Levesque (aka HHH - if you want to piss him off, call him by his real name at a match), then you don't have a chance of getting a shot.

 Something is wrong when a complete fuckwad and displinary problem like Randy Orton is main eventing instead of mopping floors.  That's what you get if you have the body that Vince is a fag for.

As for TNA, it's basically the cast-off's from the WWE and everybody answers to Jeff Jarrett.  I feel sympathy for JJ for losing his wife to cancer last week, but he doesn't impress me and TNA could be much, much better without his input - bookers that place themselves in the main events are doing it for ego, not to put asses in the seats.  Hell, they managed to get Kurt Angle - the guy may be batshit insane but when packaged right, he could pop the ratings.

Goddamned, they have Jim F'Ning Cornette - a real life friend of mine.  He can write angles and work the mic better than anybody else on the staff.  J.C. is legit old school and he gives his all to everything he's involved in - he doesn't phone it in each week like the Carlitos and Shelton Benjamins of the WWE.  He has a screw or two loose and that's what makes him entertaining as hell.  I have a few screws loose and that's why I'm meeting with management and HR every six months - but I'm entertaining when I'm not in 'super-serious' mode.

I guess that I strayed from the original question, but since Vince has inserted himself in every goddamned angle and main event on RAW, Smackdown and ECW, I refuse to watch any of the drek that he produces.  Even the tease of Flair winning another championship isn't enough to make me watch the program.  The best that Vince can give us today is Edge, Batista and Lashley?  That's fucking bullshit - all they are is 'rhoided up muscleheads with no training, no speed and no idea of how to work the crowd.  When Johnny Valentine put somebody in a headlock, you knew he was for real.  When Carlito puts somebody in a headlock, it's so weak and transparent it's almost laughable.  Of course when Undertaker and HHH return, you can be sure that they will be in the main events, and the sad thing is they are the best that the WWE has to offer.

I despise McMahon almost as much Tom Zenk does because he has screwed so many workers over the years and destroyed the 'sport' that I loved so much.

Aw fuck!  I just turned on RAW because Moolah sent me an e-mail saying she and Mae were going to be on tonight.  I love Moolah with all my heart because she trained me and got me my first gig, but I hope to hell she and Mae got some major money for that shitty segment they just did.

And after that, I turned it off.  Not even the thought of Bret Hart being on is enough to make me watch this shit.

But if they invite the Iron Sheik to come on uncensored and live, then that would be comedy!

Urban Legend
« Reply #130 on: 06-11-2007 21:32 »

thanks for that incite  Ralph.

Here are tonights draft picks.


Urban Legend
« Reply #131 on: 06-12-2007 07:05 »

Originally posted by Ralph Snart:

Aw fuck!  I just turned on RAW because Moolah sent me an e-mail saying she and Mae were going to be on tonight.  I love Moolah with all my heart because she trained me and got me my first gig, but I hope to hell she and Mae got some major money for that shitty segment they just did.

And after that, I turned it off.  Not even the thought of Bret Hart being on is enough to make me watch this shit.

But if they invite the Iron Sheik to come on uncensored and live, then that would be comedy!

They had the most surreal ending I have EVER seen last night. Like, I thought I was tripping on acid. Just Bizarre. Go to wwe.com to see what I'm talking about, though that doesn't show the near dream sequence-like bit where, on the way to his car, Vince was walking through a hallway that seemed to have every WWE employee except the main eventers, including Finkle, Brisco, and Patterson standing around, not saying a word. Too bad you didn't watch it. High potential for the next big Wrestlecrap angle.
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« Reply #132 on: 06-12-2007 07:52 »

I watched the final 3:30 on a youtube video (already taken down).  I guess that the WWE gave the ending to us that The Sopranos should have had.  Vince doing a Zombie walk from the ring to his limo, then the thing blowing up.  You're right - this will be a Wrestlecrap moment, especially if Vince comes back next week.

The newsgroup says that there were actually a few decent matches.  Also, Flair going to Smackdown and Benoit going to RAW?  I guess that kills the chance of a new version of the Four Horsemen but may pave the road for Flair to have one more Championship run.

I love Flair (not in the Bibical sense) and am probably his biggest fan and mark, but please - retire from the ring and manage.  It makes me almost cry when I see him in the ring and know how fucking great he was for over 20 years.  I remember when he won his first title - the Mid-Atlantic Tag Titles with Swede Hansen in 1975.  I remember his first World Title run.  I remember him standing toe to toe with Vader and surviving Vader shooting on him.  I don't want to remember the old, slow, broken-down 57 year old guy that he is now.

When I did my diatribe about Undertaker and HHH being the best the company has today, I should have added Benoit's name to that list. 

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« Reply #133 on: 06-13-2007 00:38 »
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Ralph Snart--  Based on your last incite, that is the reason why I'd support you writing a book.  The reason why is that you tell it like it is and you won't be bias since you don't work for WWE or TNA.  I've noticed how Carlito does a headlock, and it looked a little fake to me as well.

I also googled your stage name and I came across this:

9/22/76 Sacramento, CA @ Memorial Auditorium
Pat Patterson & Al Madril & Tony Garea beat Great Fuji & Royal Kangaroos Lord Jonathan Boyd & Norman Frederick Charles III
Mr Saito beat Tony Rocco 2/3
Steve Strong beat Rock Riddle
Fabulous Frank Monte beat Guy Lambert

10/20/76 Sacramento, CA @ Memorial Auditorium
Royal Kangaroos Lord Jonathan Boyd & Norman Frederick Charles III (c) beat Al Madril & Pat Patterson in 11:00 of sudden
death overtime
Tony Garea beat Mr Saito
Jimmy & Johnny Valiant beat Tony Rocco & Sal Lothario
Fabulous Frank Monte drew Steve Strong

10/26/76 Stockton, CA @ Civic Auditorium
Al Madril beat Lord Jonathan Boyd
Jimmy & Johnny Valiant beat Tony Garea & Tony Rocco
Norman Frederick Charles III beat Fabulous Frank Monte
Great Fuji beat Steve Strong

11/13/76 SF TV
Jimmy & Johnny Valiant beat Hector Lamas & Raul Mata
Ray Stevens & Pepper Gomez beat Fabulous Frank Monte & Mr Saito

11/16/76 Stockton, CA @ Civic Auditorium
Chris Supersplash Taylor & Ray Stevens & Pepper Gomez beat Great Fuji & Jimmy Valiant & Johnny Valiant when Fuji was dq'ed
Tony Garea beat Fabulous Frank Monte
Lord Jonathan Boyd beat Raul Mata

12/8/76 Sacramento, CA @ Memorial Auditorium
US Champion Great Fuji beat Pepper Gomez
Jimmy & Johnny Valiant (c) beat Ray Stevens & Al Madril on a 3rd fall dq
George Wells beat Norman Charles III
Tony Garea drew Lord Jonathan Boyd
Tony Rocco beat Fabulous FranK Monte

How was Ray Stevens?

I'd like to see Benoit win the ECW just so he can say that he's held the world title in WCW, WWE and ECW.  Big Show turned down another contract in WWE.  I'm a little sad, because I still wanna see Khali vs. Big Show.

Khali to Smackdown is great.  I'd like to see Batista vs. Khali at some point.

Urban Legend
« Reply #134 on: 06-13-2007 07:41 »
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Speaking of Ralph's match history, I tried looking up your television title reign on Wikipedia once, but the title history on there seems to have some gaps in it. Blackjack Lanza, whom you said that you won it from, has The Georgia Television Title listed under his accomplishments on wikipedia, but he's not included on the title history page either. :/ Any chance that you have a title history of the belt laying around so we can flesh out the wikipedia article about the television title history, Ralph?

I'm a history student at university, and this is the kind of thing that will eat away at me if I don't fix it.
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« Reply #135 on: 06-13-2007 13:37 »
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Jack Lanza won the title from Bob Armstrong, dropped it to me for 3 weeks and Tommy Rich won it from me. 

Back then the TV tapings were on the old (and I mean old) 3/4 tape.  They were re-used until they were worn out.  That's why precious little footage from before the mid-80's survives.

Also nobody could foresee that those tapes would be worth something one day.  Even though Vince now owns the libraries of almost every promotion, the film quality of those matches is poor.  I wish that I had bought a VCR and recorded every promotion during the 70's and 80's - I'd be rich off the black market.  Imagine a tape full of Von Erich- Freebirds, Buzz Sawyer and Tommy Rich, Roddy Piper and Ric Flair feuds (which had to be the hottest things in wrestling when it happened), Jack Brisco and Harley race matches.

You won't see many because of the very few that were taped, the film is probably in bad shape (film has a shelf life of 20-30 years if kept in the right conditions).

As for the history of wrestling, remember that Vince now owns everything and he will rebuild the history as he wants.  Most sites have some good intel but they are by fans who have holes in their memories.

Because of the hatred between Ole Anderson and Vince McMahon, a lot of the Georgia Championship Wrestling and Mid-Atlantic Wrestling history will be altered in Vince's world because Ole was a major force in those two areas for almost 20 years.

As for some gaps in wrestling, I saw a site that said that Jay Youngblood and Pork Chop Cash held the MACW tag belts.  Wrong - it was Johnny Weaver and Jay Youngblood.  Blackjack Mulligan held the US title 6 times, not 4 times like Obsessed With Wrestling says (he beat in this order:  Paul Jones, Paul Jones, Bobo Brazil, Paul Jones, Dino Bravo and Ricky Steamboat).

I know the real reason that Tommy Rich got a 5 day reign as World's Champ (and it wasn't because he gave the promoter a blow job - that's just an urban legend.)  I was there that night on that card.  The real reason was - get this - Race twisted his ankle and couldn't get up to continue, so to end the match quickly Rich went for the pin and the ref did the three count.  It was going to be a phantom title change but the next day the results of the match was in the sports section of a newspaper.  That's right, a sports reporter went to the card that night and printed the results.  Since the title change was known about outside that little town, damage control went into action - when Race was able to wrestle again, with lidocaine injected in his ankle to numb the pain and God knows how much Demerol injected into him prior to the match, he won the title back, but this event had cameras there to film the event.  It gave Rich more street cred for being able to beat Race and helped with attendence at the matches the rest of the year.  I don't know where the story that Rich gave the promoter a blow job came from, but I do know that he was not gay.  Hell, Missy Hyatte was his rat for almost a year before she became the locker rooms fuck toy.

Then there are the phantom title changes that happened at house shows.  If an area had a large concentration of blacks in the audience, the black wrestler would 'win' the main event and whatever title abut it never be acknowledged on TV.  Back then TV tapings were weekly and that arena, gymnasium or football field would be visited again in a few weeks.  Because of a lack of cable, very few people knew what happened at the house shows.

So there's no true "School of Wrestling History", most of it is what the fans from those eras believed.  Even the wrestler's books aren't to be that accurate - Roddy Piper's book has a lot of untruths in it.  Whether that's because Piper's brain doesn't remember it all or he was playing kayfabe, I don't know.

Just think about how explosive a book or TV special would have been back in the 80's if it had exposed the massive amount of drugs being used by WCCW.  Kevin, Kerry and David were all coke addicts - when Kerry got busted for drug posession and it was printed in major Texas newspapers, the rebuttal on TV was that the Freebirds planted it in Kerry's car.  They went as far as having Buddy Roberts 'confess' to the police that he placed the coke in Kerry's car.  David died of a drug overdose in Japan - Bruiser Brody flushed the evidence before the police got to the hotel room.  Gino Hernadez was the locker room pusher and he crossed the mod by stealing some of the nose candy for himself, so he was executed.  The story was he died of a cocaine overdose.  Bullshit, he was shot execution style with his face blown off.  They had to have a closed casket funeral because of that.  Imagine if that came out in Vince's WCCW DVD.  It won't because it will further solidify that wrestling is a hotbed of drug abuse (which it is, even today).

So wrestling is a fake sport with fake titles and the history that you see on even the best sites is faked as well.  Like Goldberg's unreal winning streak of 5,887 matches before losing to Kevin Nash.  Try more like less than 100, and some of those were to jobbers.

So I doubt if anybody will ever get a 'true' history of wrestling in the territories before the mid-80's.  Save yourself the hadaches of trying to have an accurate timeline to all the workers.  Some workers got buried or written out because of brushes with the law or pissed-off promoters, like Ranger Ross, a black performer for Mid-South.  He's in jail today because of a armed robbery conviction.  He held the Mid-South title and Mid-South tag titles.  I can't find any site that recognizes either of those title reigns.

There's better things to do with that time, like getting laid.  Believe me when I say this:  No decent, datable woman will be interested in you because you're interested in the history of pro-wrestling.

As much fun as I had those few years I was a worker, if I had a kid tell me he wanted to become a pro-wrestler, I would do everything in my power to discourage that goal in life.


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« Reply #136 on: 06-15-2007 00:49 »
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Ralph Snart you have one incredible story i wish you would write a book because frankly people who like wrestling need it. your tales of how they try to make these real life stories seem like acts is something that really interests me.

i remeber when owen hart died that they tried to make it into a story line about the undertaker having something to do with it. which is actually quite saddning that peoples deaths are being exploited for ratings. id like to hear more stories of incedents simmilar to the ones youve mention
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« Reply #137 on: 06-15-2007 06:38 »

Wrestling could be quite tasteless at times to make an angle or to bury a worker, but Vince pushes the tasteless issue too far.  When Stephanie was pregnant, he wanted to run an angle that he was the father.  He stated that Brian Pillman's death death was due to a druga overdsoe when in reality he had a heart attack.  Everybody loves to talk about the Montreal screwjob, but Vince is a coward - he doesn't have the guts to tell the workers taht they're dropping the titles - he screwed Bob Backlund and Wendi Richter in the same way.  He screwed Kevin Kelly (Nailz) out of a PPV money, so Nailz almost choked Vinny-Mac to death.  Now Vince goes everywhere with at least two bodyguards.  If Vince has to take a shit, his bodyguards go into the bathroom, chase everybody else out and guard the door so that nobody else can go into the bathroom while Vince is taking a crap and injecting some HGH and steroids.

Most promoters were pieces of shit, but Vince is the top turd as far as being a complete shit.

Vince is pathological - he demands a certain appearance from his workers and he knows that they have to resort to illegal and dangerous drugs to have that appearance.  He doesn't care, because all he cares about is making himself look good and taking a perverse pride in screwing the workers.  Ask any worker after being dumped by Vince and you'll get nothing but horror stories.  Vince crapped on Paul Wright (The Big Show) so much that Wright quit the business.  Last week the WWE called Wright asking for him to come back.  Wright told them "Hell NO" and told the WWE to never call him again.

You want to know what I remember?  Workers who I ran with that are dead and they're younger than me.  Terry Gordy, Buzz Sawyer, Brian Pillman, Jay Youngblood, Road Warrior Hawk and many others who gave their lives for the business, just to have Vince put out a DVD making money from these guys with nothing going towards their families.

Vince sucks. 

And that my opinion.

Urban Legend
« Reply #138 on: 06-15-2007 15:07 »

Sherri Martel died.  :(

Urban Legend
« Reply #139 on: 06-15-2007 15:49 »

"Sensational" Sherri passes away at age 49.  That is sad, it's ironic that people in the WWE are mourning the "death" of Vince than of Sherri.

I knew Sherri only from her WCW days when she managed Harlem Heat, then she left and I wouldn't see her on TV until Kurt Angle brought her in to cover HBK's theme song. 

Starship Captain
« Reply #140 on: 06-15-2007 15:55 »

yea that really messed up, seeing like road warrior hawk and Mr perfect and bunches of others being made money off of with dvdds and other things is just messed up. these angles are really becomming sick , like the whole rey mysterio's son being eddie gurreros and when he died them having his wife acting as if she didnt care, its something that really bothered me and was just plain wrong
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« Reply #141 on: 06-15-2007 17:30 »

Rats.  I just woke up and the first post I see is that Sherri Martel is dead.  I remember when she broke in during the old AWA days.  She really loved cocaine and was totally coked-up for most of her career.  The Hall Of Fame induction of 2006, she was so coked-up she could barely speak.

But she was one hell of a wrestler - she held her own against Madusu, Debbie Combs, Velvet McKentire, Wendi Richter and could get a good match out of a very tired and past her prime Moolah.

::bows head in reverence to Sherri::

Vince will find a way to make money off her corpse - Maybe she'll be the new "Katey Vick".

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« Reply #142 on: 06-15-2007 18:22 »

he probably will just like his " death" now i feel that hes taking way too far with a fake death its just wrong much respect for Sherri tho she was awesome
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« Reply #143 on: 06-15-2007 18:42 »

A tribute to Sherri Martel.  Her first match and a very young Jimmy Cornette as her manager.

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« Reply #144 on: 06-17-2007 08:36 »


My new neighbor - The Undertaker.

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« Reply #145 on: 06-17-2007 21:55 »

Here are the latesr drafts

Pick No. 1: Raw selects Paul London & Brian Kendrick

I'm glad that WWE has a brain on this since they realize how entertaining this tag team is and they'll be on RAW.

Pick No. 2: SmackDown selects Kenny Dykstra

Disappointing, since I figured that Dykstra and Nitro would become an awesome tag team.

Pick No. 3: ECW selects Viscera

This is good, ECW could use a big guy.

Pick No. 4: Raw selects Sandman

This is a dumb move.  Sandman doesn't fit in RAW or Smackdown.  He'll probably only wrestle on HEAT and job on RAW and then get released, since I understand he doesn't work well backstage.

Pick No. 5: SmackDown selects Hardcore Holly

It's a shame ECW is losing another extremist like Holly.  Hopefully they'll finally give Hardcore a shot at a mid-card title.  I'd like to see him brawl with Finlay, since both love a good fight.

Pick No. 6: ECW selects The Miz

I have no strong feelings one way or the other.

Pick No. 7: Raw selects Daivari

He'll be a jobber, unless they have him manager someone, but Khali's on Smackdown.

Pick No. 8: SmackDown selects The Major Brothers

With them going to Smackdown, it's safe to say that ECW won't be having tag team belts for a long time.

Pick No. 9: Raw selects William Regal

It's a shame since I liked the team of Taylor/Regal since their WCW days.  They should've sent Dave Taylor to RAW as well.

Pick No. 10: SmackDown selects Victoria

What purpose does this service.  Victoria is a wrestler, and with the WWE Women's title on RAW, she's not being used to her full potential.

Pick No. 11: Raw selects Jillian Hall

I was hoping to see Ashley/Jillian fued, but with Ashley "suspended" and Jillian on RAW, it'll seem that will have to wait.

Pick No. 12: SmackDown selects Eugene

I have no strong feelings one way or the other.

Pick No. 13: ECW selects Johnny Nitro

I hope Nitro gets a push since ECW needs strong talent.

To sum all this up, it's safe to say that ECW is suffered a lot from the draft. Ralph may be right if Vince is trying to kill ECW.  It's lost big stars like Snitski and Lashley and is denied a tag team divison with the Majors brothers lost.  Hopefully they's use Benoit, Viscera, Boogeyman, Nitro, and the Miz to help make ECW stay float.  Some I'm not so sure of.

Urban Legend
« Reply #146 on: 06-19-2007 05:39 »
« Last Edit on: 06-19-2007 05:39 »

Dude, Nitro and Benoit make up for a hundred Snitskis and Lashleys. Nitro, Elijah Burke, Benoit and CM Punk are going to have some amazing matches together. I've been wishing that ECW came on TV at a decent hour here(as opposed to 3:30 am on Friday nights) since the draft.

So what's up with that main event at Vengence? They decide to just throw 4 random guys in the ring with Cena? For that matter, what the fuck is Foley doing in there? He's a great guy and all, but he's retired and doesn't belong in the main event.
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« Reply #147 on: 06-19-2007 09:44 »

I'm afraid that Vince has shit on one too many performers.  His shabby treatment of Sherri Martel's death and the continued stroking of his ego has made me swear off ever watching any of his products ever again.

Yes, wrestling has always been entertainment, but the ONE thing that was ALWAYS not to be maligned in any way was the 'Ten Rings' of the bell.  It always had a special meaning to the promoters, workers and fans.

Not anymore.

Vince has no respect at all for anything or anybody.  I can't watch his product, further enriching him at the cost to the workers.

I met Sherri Martel several times when she was first starting the business - she was trained by Moolah and ran with Moolah's group in the very early 80's.  She wasn't the type of gal I would date, but I'd damned sure would want Sherri backing me up in a real fight.  She was tough as they came and she earned her chops over the years.  Despite any personal demons she had, she earned my respect and almost anybody who had the fortune of meeting her.

So Vince crapped all over her memory.  Fine, Vince has lost one viewer.  I will never watch any WWE products until Vince really dies.

It will be a good day when he does die.  I sincerely mean that.  And he will never, ever deserve "Ten Bells".

Ralph "Fucking pissed off" Snart
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« Reply #148 on: 06-21-2007 23:14 »
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Originally there was suppose to be a program-long tribute on RAW to Sherri with sniplets of her contributions to wrestling over the years.  It was shelved when it was thought that a tribute to her would lessen the 'death' of Vince McMoron, so all she got was a 10 second 'tribute' - she didn't even get "Ten Bells".


An article on Sherri Martel's death:


Also comments from websites and myspace accounts:

Madusa posted the following note on her official website on
Madusa.com regarding Sherri Martel:

We loss something SENSATIONAL..........
Sheri Martel leaves us with heartful memories no could forget....
Tuesday, June 19, 2007

I am so angry and hurt by the loss of my friend and mentor, Sheri
Martel. Why does this happen so much in our business.. I am sick and
tired of losing so many co-workers to this business. I wish I could
change a lot of things especially the death of Sheri. She was a very
Jovial person and if you were her friend you were for life!! We the
people of this business need to step up to the plate and make change
for a better future, or should I say a longer future in this business.
There are so many of us that makes Pro wrestling our life, I have and
have seen good and bad.. I choose to move on and not get caught up in
the riff raff of sh*t and was also blessed to not be easily influenced
by the drugs and steroids. I get so saddened by the constant demand of
physical attributes needed for this business and it goes on by the
neglect of the higher anarchy of employment not to do better for our
talent, young or seasoned. Before we loose another I really hope to
see a division addressed to the veterans and a support system to a
better life and help them out of the life of pro wrestling when
retired.... what I am saying if the NFL can have a programs for all
the guys after their career we can too.... Vince McMahon is the leader
in this industry, and he could also be a great influence to every one
after the retirement

-- Ted DiBiase posted the following message on his MySpace page
regarding Sherri Martel:

Thank you to all who wrote about Sherri...

I appreciate the notes of sympathy for Sherri. We were friends, and I
will miss her; as she will be missed by all of her wrestling family.

My heart and prayers go out to her husband and family. Please keep
them in your prayers, they are the ones who need them most.

-- Victoria posted the following regarding Sherri Martel on her
MySpace page:

On a much sadder note, Hall of Fame wrestler "Sensational Sherri"
Martel passed away this weekend. I had the honor of working with her
in an OVW show, and I just spoke to her at Wrestlemania when she was
inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame. She is one of my role models in
this business, and she was a sweet, down to earth person. My thoughts
are with her family at this difficult time.

Lisa Marie aka Victoria

-- Former WWE manager Paul Bearer posted the following on Sherri:

Remembering Sherri...

Go onward into the night my friend. Thanks for the memories.

-- April Hunter's comments on Sherri Martel:

Her passing is very sad...one of those you didn't really see coming. I
LOVED Sherri. She was one of the women who influenced me into
wrestling and probably the best female manager of all time. I have all
her Japan wrestling matches. 49 seems far too young.

I guess instead of mourning her, we could think more about how lucky
she was to have seen the world, lived the life and how she got to do
things for our entertainment...how she lived her dream. She did a lot
for the world of wrestling, that's for sure.
I always try to do that when people die...think about how they lived
instead. She certainly lived up to the name "SENSATIONAL".

-- OVW's Katie Lea posted the following message on her MySpace page:

Sherri Martel

I was very very sad today to hear that Sherri Martel passed away. I
met her once in Germany back in 2001 and she was wonderful to me, very
gracious and very respectful.

At the time I didn't know much about her career but since then I have
had the opportunity to see more of her work both as a manager and an
active wrestler and she is someone I admire greatly and feel inspired

Of course my personal experience with her was very brief, but she made
a huge positive impression on me and working with her was an
experience I'll never forget...

Urban Legend
« Reply #149 on: 06-25-2007 15:08 »
« Last Edit on: 06-25-2007 15:08 »

Johnny Nitro is the new ECW champ.  I don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing.  I'm disappointed that Benoit had to leave due to personal reasons.  Was that a storyline, or did he really have a family emergency?  I'm also sadden the CM Punk didn't win since he's been in ECW longer and should be given a push.  I hope that since Nitro is getting a push that CM punk gets a push just as well.

This link allows who to place your opinion who blew up McMahon.

The Following listed suspects are:

Jonathan Coachman
Bobby Lashley
Stone Cold
Shane McMahon
Eric Bischoff
Mr. McMahon
Triple H
Donald Trump
Stephanie McMahon

Jim Ross
Our fan Steve writes: J.R. has been fired more times than he should have been (I'm sure he was justifiably fired at least one). If I was Ross, I wouldn't put up with it.

A crazy fan
Our fan Leonel writes: I know I couldn't stand the man. Luckily for him, I am sane. I think it was a crazy fan that finally had enough of him.

Our fan Timothy writes: God has finally gotten back at Mr. McMahon for that rivalry he had with Him last year. I knew it would come back to haunt Mr. McMahon.

Paul London
Our fan Jene writes: London was smiling when McMahon came out, like he knew what was going to happen. That sneaky bastard!

Hulk Hogan
Our fan Daniel writes: When Hogan wasn't at WrestleMania, I knew something was wrong. He was probably planning this thing since then.

The Jackass Guys
Our fan Keith writes: They are always doing stupid stuff like this on MTV. This one just went a little too far.

Bret Hart
Our fan Ollie writes: I'm a huge Hit Man fan. If he did it, I wouldn't blame him. He was screwed by Mr. McMahon.

Ultimate Warrior
Our fan Dan writes: Warrior rules! He so did it.

Linda McMahon
Our fan Celia writes: As a lady who knows a thing or two about marrying for money, I think Linda finally hit the jackpot on this one.

Ed Kaufman
Our fan Steve writes: I never heard of him until his statement on WWE.com, but he sure looks suspicious to me.

An employee
Our fan Brett writes: It was probably a disgruntled employee. If he just gave out more raises...

Ted Turner
Our fan Juan writes: Now, neither are in the "wrasslin'" business. Ha!

The dummy in the bleachers
Our fan Lilly writes: I was at that Raw and there was some obnoxious guy telling everybody how much he hated Mr. McMahon. It could have been him.

Our fan Gino writes: He probably got jealous that Mr. McMahon had a bigger car than him.

Our fan Chris writes: Didn't they get in a fight before? Maybe it was his final payback.

Verne Gagne
Our fan Julie writes: And he had good reason to do it. AWA 4 Life!

Brock Lesnar
Our fan Clint writes: Maybe he did, maybe he didn't, but I think it would be cool if he did. Does that make me a bad person?

J.J. Dillon
Our fan Greg writes: The Four Horsemen will ride again. Didn't Mr. McMahon fire Dillon?

Our fan Steve writes: He was probably just clowning around and it backfired.

The Rock
Our fan Brian writes: I bet The Rock is upset because he isn't in any WWE Movies. So he probably blew up Mr. McMahon's limo. That Beck should question him.

Our fan Frankie writes: Sabu was fired for no reason. Sabu did it. If he didn't, he should have.

Bob Costas
Our fan Guad writes: I don't care what anybody says. Costas did it. They have hated each other for years.

Our fan Lennie writes: I bet it was Ashley. She was suspended for no reason. Now, she can't get paid and put food on her table. How is she supposed to provide for herself? She probably got angry and blew up the limo. She probably had help too... Paul London?

The Iron Sheik
Our fan Billy writes: That man is crazy!

Okay, I'm a smark.  That means I like pro wrestling even though I know it's staged, so what harm is it in playing along.  I'm surprised nobody has pointed the finger at Paul Heyman.  That explosion was a little extreme to get rid of McMahon, and I would think he'd be the perfect mastermind behind this plot since Vince sent him home.

Starship Captain
« Reply #150 on: 06-25-2007 20:10 »

Since no one else put this up I thought I would

Chris Benoit and his wife and son were found dead earlier today.

I wasn't a personal fan of his, but he was a great wrestler and it's a real shame that he died so young.

Also, I guess this kills the whole "Vince is dead" storyline since Vince himself appeared on RAW to commence the 3 hour tribute to Benoit.

Liquid Emperor
« Reply #151 on: 06-25-2007 20:13 »

I know what happended. Vince plays with death, Death gets pissed and Death kills off a great wrestler along with his family.

Urban Legend
« Reply #152 on: 06-25-2007 21:27 »

You are right Starone.  Vince appeared in an empty arena to tell people at home the sad news.  They're saying it's a double murder/suicide.

I've watched Chris Benoit wrestle for the past 10 years since his WCW days, along with Nancy aka "Woman" in WCW.  Chris Benoit was a great wrestler and accomplished so much.  He still had a lot more to accomplished.  I'm sorry to say that this could be more tragic than when Eddie Guerrero, since this involves Benoit's family and I admired and respected Benoit much more than Guerrero.

I hope we can hear from Benoit's friends.  Ric Flair, Arn Anderson, Rey Misterio, Dean Malenko, Chris Jericho and others.

RIP Chris Benoit :[
Nasty Pasty

DOOP Secretary
« Reply #153 on: 06-25-2007 21:49 »

That's a real shame. One of the most fantastic technical wrestlers of the past 10 years.

He will be greatly missed.

Urban Legend
« Reply #154 on: 06-25-2007 22:37 »
« Last Edit on: 06-25-2007 22:37 »

You know, nothing against any other wrestler who has died over the years, but I hadn't been on the internet much today because I was at work, so when RAW came on, it was the first I heard of the fact that Benoit died, and it was probably the first time I was actually almost brought to tears from the shock of a wrestler dying. It's not because the other wrestlers weren't good, but it's more a case of Beniot always seeming to be sort of on the straight and narrow all the time, never seemed the type to be on any drugs, always said to be a nice guy backstage, well respected, top physical condition, and all around one of the greatest technical wrestlers of all time. I always liked Eddie, but it was never a secret that he had drug problems. Benoit always seemed different, like he was immune to that sort of thing for some reason. It was just so unexpected, and reports that he may have killed his wife and child only make things worse.

I have to give Vince props, because that was a classy tribute. 

Urban Legend
« Reply #155 on: 06-25-2007 23:34 »

The following is from WWE.com:

According to lead investigator Lt. Tommy Pope, of the Fayette County Sheriff’s Department, in Fayetteville, Ga., the deaths of WWE Superstar Chris Benoit, wife Nancy and son Daniel were the result of a double murder-suicide, WWE.com has learned.

Benoit failed to appear both at Saturday’s live event in Beaumont, Tx., and WWE’s Vengeance: Night of Champions in Houston Sunday night, after informing WWE of a family emergency. Several curious text messages sent by Benoit early Sunday morning prompted concerned friends to alert Richard Hering, VP of Government Relations for WWE, Inc. Hering, in turn, spoke with Fayette County sheriffs Monday, and requested that they respond to the Benoit residence to check on him and his family.

Authorities representing the Sheriff’s Department initially had a difficult time entering Benoit’s new Fayetteville home Monday afternoon, which had been guarded by two large German Shepherds roaming freely around the property. Once authorities entered the residence, they quickly located the bodies of Benoit, Nancy and Daniel. WWE was notified of the discovery at approximately 4 p.m.

At 10 p.m. Monday night, Lt. Pope held a press conference in conjunction with Scott Ballard, the district attorney for Fayette County. The press conference officially ruled authorities’ findings as a double murder-suicide from within the home.

WAGA, a FOX-owned and operated television station in Atlanta, reported that investigators believe Benoit killed his wife and 7-year-old son over the weekend, then himself on Monday.

The three bodies have been received by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation’s crime lab, in Decatur, Ga., where autopsies will be performed Tuesday morning. Toxicology reports will not become available for at least two weeks.

Sources in the Fayette County Police Department are now working under the theory that Chris Benoit killed Nancy on Saturday, son Daniel on Sunday, and then killed himself earlier today.

Benoit was found dead in his weight room. Nancy was found dead in the living room. Daniel was found dead in his bedroom, accordig t an unnamed source in the department.

Lt. Tommy Pope told ABC News "the instruments of death were located on the scene," but didn't specify what those were or where they were found. Pope said the department was not actively searching for any suspects outside the house.

WWE.com has further information relating to both the investigation and the cause of death, but the Fayette County Sheriff’s Department has requested that WWE.com not release any additional details at this time.

DOOP Secretary
« Reply #156 on: 06-26-2007 02:35 »

Jesus!  What the hell is going on in Wrestling?!  Wrestlers are dropping like flies, and people are dying left, right and centre!

Any fitting tribute should've contained the Pillman Match with William Regal, as that was awesome.  As well as the WM17 match with Kurt Angle.

Awful awful shame, loved Benoit, he was one of the true greats still left in the game.
Ralph Snart

Agent Provocateur
Near Death Star Inhabitant
DOOP Secretary
« Reply #157 on: 06-26-2007 03:31 »
« Last Edit on: 06-26-2007 03:31 »

I've only met Benoit twice backstage long after I retired - usually I would be speaking to Flair.  Flair had a lot of respect for Benoit as a person and a wrestler.

The little I know of Benoit, it seems to be really not him to do such a thing.  Now if it was Kevin Sullivan (a real life nudist and Devil Worshipper) being involved, I could believe he would do such a thing.

Damned, what goes through a guy's mind to kill his family?  It's bad enough to kill your wife, but to kill your kid also?  That's severely fucked up.

AS for the tribute - I missed it because 1) I was sleeping after working all weekend and having to take the wife to the doctor today and B) I didn't record it because I'm boycotting WWE programming until Vince starts showing a little class towards the workers.  The shitting on Sherri last week was my last straw.  Maybe Vince's minions have read the blogs and realized that they were alienating fans with the retarded "Who Killed Mr. McMoron" angle.

I wish I had seen the tribute to Benoit.

I do know that he and Michael Hayes had problems with each other - Hayes was the top gun of Smackdown and refused to push Benoit because Benoit couldn't do great interviews.  Also Benoit took the move to ECW as an insult - he was suppose to be transferred to help train new talent.  Maybe a lot of stuff built up and something made him snap.

It's a horrible loss in real life.

DOOP Secretary
« Reply #158 on: 06-26-2007 03:52 »

I didn't see the Raw either, I'll see if I can download it later.  It's a shame how this has all come about, I only hope that (a) it doesn't get brought in to some crappy angle, and (b) his (wrestling) legacy remains intact.
Ralph Snart

Agent Provocateur
Near Death Star Inhabitant
DOOP Secretary
« Reply #159 on: 06-26-2007 04:42 »


FoxNews report on the Benoit's deaths...
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