John Pannozzi
Starship Captain
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« on: 04-11-2004 07:05 »
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In the first 2 seasons of Futurama, Amy was basically a clumsy, trampy semi-sult that was practically Futurama's answer to Edna Krabappel (not that it keep me from worshipping the fictional ground Amy walked on and now that I think about it, Amy was probably acting sluty and seductive to get a man and have children to make her parents happy and wasn't showing her true personality by being slutty). In "Amazon Women in the Mood", the 1st episode produced for the 3rd season, Amy's personallity made a completely unexpected (but very welcome) 360 degree turnaround. She now (much like Leela) hated uncaring, sexist, chuvanistic men and was offended when Kif said that "the most attactive part of a women is the boobies" (which WOULD affend me if was female. Hey, even though I'm male I'd still be offended by it as I think the most attractive things about a women are her face and her personality). Even though Amy seemed to appear lest often after going from man-hungry tramp to pure-hearted lover of Kif and the episodes about her relationship with Kif focused more on Kif and rest of the gang than on Amy, Amy's love with Kif made (or more specific, will make) her the kind of person I think the show's staff originally intended her to be (based on how she acted in "Episode 2: The Series has Landed", her debut) and also makes her a more 3-dimensional, realistic, and appealing person.
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Teral
Helpy McHelphelp
DOOP Secretary
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Also the Wong's probably only introduced Kif to Amy because he was the captain of the Titanic at that point, and thus a very important person. Later they just remembered introducing their daughter to the captain, and not some scrawny whimp.
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Nixorbo
UberMod
DOOP Secretary
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Originally posted by TheLampIncident: She made a wimp out of Kif. FIXED.
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Nixorbo
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DOOP Secretary
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Every episode after A Flight to Remember, Kif becomes a little more feminine, and a little more androgynous. In Brannigan, Begin Again, he just won't shut up complaining. Admittedly it was a horrible, horrible incident, but that's not the point. In Amazon Women in the Mood, *he* is rescued by Amy, *he* is carried away from danger, *he* says "My hero!" In Where the Buggalo Roam, he has feelings and keeps a diary. Not a journal, a diary. The feminization reaches its climax in Kif Gets Knocked Up a Knotch, when he gets pregnant.
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VoVat
Bending Unit
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In the first 2 seasons of Futurama, Amy was basically a clumsy, trampy semi-sult that was practically Futurama's answer to Edna Krabappel (not that it keep me from worshipping the fictional ground Amy walked on and now that I think about it, Amy was probably acting sluty and seductive to get a man and have children to make her parents happy and wasn't showing her true personality by being slutty). In "Amazon Women in the Mood", the 1st episode produced for the 3rd season, Amy's personallity made a completely unexpected (but very welcome) 360 degree turnaround. She now (much like Leela) hated uncaring, sexist, chuvanistic men and was offended when Kif said that "the most attactive part of a women is the boobies" (which WOULD affend me if was female. Hey, even though I'm male I'd still be offended by it as I think the most attractive things about a women are her face and her personality). I don't necessarily see that as a change, though, although I suppose it is a development in character. Being somewhat trampy doesn't mean someone is going to respond positively to incredibly offensive pick-up lines.
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Teral
Helpy McHelphelp
DOOP Secretary
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Don't forget the "pathetic, submissive lap-dog" phase in "300 Big Boys", defientely the absolute low-point for Kif character-wise. Too bad it was his final appearence, now we'll always remember him as such.
I miss the LLLiS Kif, he was a great straight man to Zapp's pompous personality.
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Nasty Pasty
DOOP Secretary
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Yeah, i find that really sad too David A. I loved her as a dumb klutz in the first few episodes. They really should have stuck with that.
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davierocks
Professor
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Ok, so this is a lesson for all you shippers out there. This is what happens when characters in sitcoms get together!
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davierocks
Professor
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Originally posted by Venus: The man gets knocked up? As i woman, i approve. Well I was looking for a picture of Kif looking really meek and pathetic and that's the closest I could find. Most of the others were of him with Zap or just by himself for some reason.
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Rhodan
Bending Unit
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« Reply #34 on: 05-08-2004 12:31 »
« Last Edit on: 05-08-2004 12:31 »
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Originally posted by Nixorbo: Every episode after A Flight to Remember, Kif becomes a little more feminine, and a little more androgynous. In Brannigan, Begin Again, he just won't shut up complaining. Admittedly it was a horrible, horrible incident, but that's not the point. In Amazon Women in the Mood, *he* is rescued by Amy, *he* is carried away from danger, *he* says "My hero!" Technically, episodes after "When alians attack". Interesting, both BBA and AWIM were written by Lew Marton. Altough in other causes he was good in characterization, probably just terribly misunderstood Kif and other authors (Burns, Odenkirk, Kaplan)unfortunaly were continuing in this trend.
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ChrisWilson
Crustacean
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Originally posted by Passing user: What I don't get is how Amy's parents introduced her to Kif and encouraged them in A Flight to Remember, but hated him in Where the Buggalo Roam. I'm not if this has been answered and I can't be arsed to look around but in FTR, he was the captain as Zapp gave him the post in desperation of his life. In WTBR, he isn't a captain no more!
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