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Xanfor

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« Reply #680 on: 08-10-2013 07:24 »

Even though the orphanarium was out-of-stock at the end of "Yo Leela Leela" it probably wouldn't stay that way for long.

Out-of-stock? Is there some sort of orphan warehouse that orphanariums order more orphans from when they run low on orphans? Could you just buy orphans wholesale and get better prices? Or are there regulations in place to prevent people from trying to corner the orphan market?

Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #681 on: 08-10-2013 08:05 »

With Zapp Branigan commanding troops (some of them probably having kids), the orphanarium will quickly be restocked ;)
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« Reply #682 on: 08-10-2013 13:43 »

Well... don't they have wives too? They won't be orphans when they still have their moms
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« Reply #683 on: 08-11-2013 00:26 »
« Last Edit on: 08-11-2013 01:15 »

Watching the Parasites Lost deleted scenes. I think I actually want to marry Fry right now.



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« Reply #684 on: 08-11-2013 06:52 »

Even though the orphanarium was out-of-stock at the end of "Yo Leela Leela" it probably wouldn't stay that way for long.

Out-of-stock? Is there some sort of orphan warehouse that orphanariums order more orphans from when they run low on orphans? Could you just buy orphans wholesale and get better prices? Or are there regulations in place to prevent people from trying to corner the orphan market?

It's actually an orphan-catalog from which the buyer can order a mutant-edition orphan for half the price of the standard model.  :p Nah, actually "out-of-stock" was just the phrase I copied from Frida because I'm unoriginal.
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« Reply #685 on: 08-14-2013 23:02 »


The observation I want to explore further on this thread is how exactly Leela reproduces. This episode was a disappointment as it seems to suggest that Leela would not carry her offspring, but rather lay an egg. That ain't right, that ain't funny, even by science fiction and comedy standards. And I really want to see a canonical knocked-up Leela. I don't want the offspring of the primary couple to be a even less-clever rip of Mork and Mindy (which wasn't remotely intelligent in the first place).

I enjoyed Leela and the Genestalk, but I didn't like the egg joke either. Maybe it was just too out there? I don't know. I was fine with the mention of elbow talons in BwaBB, but I hated the Susan Boil plot. I think my annoyance stems from the fact that Leela is supposed to be the least mutated mutant in existence, so when she suddenly gains some zany new mutation, it throws my sense of continuity out. Like, seriously - you have a singing butt boil? And that didn't just scream "mutant!" to you?  :rolleyes: I end up pretending those type of retcons never happened.

On the other hand, I was fine with the squidification.  :laff: I know. I'm weird. I guess I feel like that was more appropriately lampshaded (two generations of her family have tentacles, and the disease was referred to as a condition that occasionally affects mutants, so it seemed logical) whereas the egg thing felt like tacking on another mutation for the sake of a joke. And there were better jokes to be had.

On the subject of a canonical knocked-up Leela . . . actually I don't care too much about seeing that. I mean, I assume it's going to happen at some stage in their future, but if we never see Fry and Leela have children onscreen, I'd be fine with it. Don't get me wrong, I liked the way the show handled the Kif, Amy, and Bender parenthood plotlines, but I don't feel a pressing need to have them explore that with Fry and Leela. Besides, 80% of fanfiction and fanart revolves around the subject. It's there in almost every permutation imaginable, so I'm fine exploring it that way.

So, here are the facts that I have to support the idea that Leela would lay an egg.
- The most obvious and most recent evidence is Leela's lamentation in "Leela and the Genestalk" where she says it is "bad enough that she occasionally lays an egg". If she lays eggs, that points towards Leela carrying any possible offspring in an egg.
- Munda, nor have any of Leela's ancestors have been shown to be pregnant. Munda didn't appear to have just endured labor or anything when we first saw Leela as a newborn in "Leela's Homeworld", and it seems like that scene occured just after Leela was delivered since the doctor did announce Leela's gender at the beginning of the scene. However, I will add that the doctor who seemed to have delivered Leela did say she was the "least mutated mutant ever born." Though admittedly, in retrospect, that really isn't a total indicator that Leela was born over hatched. I foggily recall (I really don't think so, but its possible) that there was a character in Futurama in the past that said he or she was born but technically hatched.
- This is barely evidence, but I thought it may be worth noting. In "Naturama", Leela did lay eggs as a salmon. Plus she was also a bird. Birds lay eggs, right?
- This last piece of evidence is possibly the most significant since it was so early in the series. In the first act of "Love's Labours Lost in Space", the morning after Leela's unsuccessful date with a man with a "vile lizard tongue", Zoidberg comments that "The female Leela's condition is purely medical. Soon she will drop her eggs and they will hatch and all will be well." Though it seems like it was just supposed to be a funny comment from Planet Express's confused comedian Doctor Zoidberg, I have felt for years that line is foreshadowing something. Maybe now I realize the line is much more literal than I originally though/was hoping for.

I think this is probably just a set of uncanny coincidences, but it amused me to read them, so I'm going to add one you forgot - Leela is not the only one with egg previous. Fry and Mr Peppy, anyone? He played momma bird to that egg, remember?  :D

Even though the orphanarium was out-of-stock at the end of "Yo Leela Leela" it probably wouldn't stay that way for long.

Out-of-stock? Is there some sort of orphan warehouse that orphanariums order more orphans from when they run low on orphans? Could you just buy orphans wholesale and get better prices? Or are there regulations in place to prevent people from trying to corner the orphan market?



I hear the Imperial Dragon Restaurant has a surplus of you-know-whats for sale, if you're buying . . . .  :flirt:
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« Reply #686 on: 08-23-2013 00:09 »

Murder on the Planet Express was interesting, from a shipping perspective.

- Leela trusts Fry implicitly (even when she shouldn't) and goes to him for comfort when she's freaked out by the creature. He's also the only one she feels comfortable admitting the extent of her fear to. ("I'm just so scared!")

- Fry, interestingly, tells Bender "The only person I trust is myself." He later learns to trust Bender (to the extent anyone can ever trust Bender) but the real Fry doesn't interact with Leela that much during this episode, so we don't get any more light shed on that statement. Still, it implies he has some trust issues around Leela. We also saw this in FALBF, when he was so quick to assume Sean was stealing her away (when in fact Leela was uninterested) and it's probably a result of the unstable nature of their relationship.

Their attitudes in this episode are an interesting study in contrasts, anyhow.

Oh, and Leela is a bitey kisser. That was fun to learn.  :flirt:
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« Reply #687 on: 08-23-2013 00:29 »
« Last Edit on: 08-23-2013 00:31 »

We also saw this in FALBF, when he was so quick to assume Sean was stealing her away (when in fact Leela was uninterested) and it's probably a result of the unstable nature of their relationship.


I see those negative aspects rather as long run story elements, giving the relationship more stability.  Early run had Fry chasing after Leela, to be turned by the next smallest setback/mistakes.  A premise upon which no long term relationship can be built.

A "lovey-dovey-always-happy" mood between Fry and Leela would make no sense. People would STILL expect Leela to leave upon the first little hardship.

Yet, couples argue/bicker/fight. A relationship's success will also be determined how they can get along with those things. E.g. a "I NEVER want to see you again (for the next 2h)" (as seen in FaoB), starting a fight during the holidays as in FaLBF (as quite a few couples bicker during their vacation), etc... .

So, those scenes indicate that the "will leave upon the first smalles annoyance" theme is over, and the relationship can stand some occasional fights and both of them being mad at each other.
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« Reply #688 on: 08-26-2013 20:22 »

The thing is though, Fry and Leela have been kinda mushy in the episodes lately that involved their romance. Fry and Leela's Big Fling obviously had a ridiculous amount of ship, you can tell just by the title. T: The Terrestrial, Leela and the Genestalk, did, as well.
And I noticed lately they've been focusing on Leela's love for Fry. For example:

1.) In T: The Terrestrial, Fry doesn't seem to miss Leela very much, just Bender, but she keeps asking about him.

2.) In Forty Percent Leadbelly, she makes a pass at Fry, but he doesn't get it.

3.) In Leela and the Genestalk, Leela wants to break up with him because she's worried she isn't good enough for him.

4.) In many episodes, such as The Inhuman Torch and Forty Percent Leadbelly, she is seen protecting him when danger is around.

Its nice to see Leela's side of it, too.
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« Reply #689 on: 08-27-2013 04:08 »

Well a romantic connection between Fry and Leela was established way back in season 1. You could even say that when Fry laid eyes on Leela for the first time, he liked her, well at least the back of her. Fry came to the realisation he loved her in Parasites Lost, thanks to the worms. And since then, despite straying a bit from time to time, he's always come back to try and woo her, see if she's changed her mind.
Leela had no such revelation as Fry did, instead she's avoided dating him because she doesn't want to lose him as a friend. The men she's dated have used her and hurt her and she doesn't want to do that to Fry. The question is raised, does Leela actually love Fry as long as he's loved her, I believe that, yes, there's little glimpses of that, and then The Sting gave us a good look about how she saw Fry. It's only once we've reached ITWGY that she is openly affectionate toward Fry, and the recent episodes have shown how much their relationship is grown, that it's not as one-sided anymore and Leela has fully accepted these feelings and understands that Fry really does love her.

I feel that LatG reflects a fair bit of TMaR, where Fry "mutates" and Leela doesn't really want to touch/be with Fry cause he's icky, and therefore when she's all tentacle-y she thinks she's icky and comes to the conclusion that he probably doesn't want to touch/be with her. I think that it's particularly important that Fry loves her for just being her. And that leads back to Parasites Lost, Fry wants to be loved for who he is, not what worms have made him.

Have some sad shippy...
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« Reply #690 on: 08-27-2013 11:58 »

What a lovely post!

Leela was always saving his life too, even when he was a jerk - like in My Three Suns.

Not to mention A Flight to Remember, where she gets jealous of Amy and Fry kissing. Also, in When Aliens Attack, she gets annoyed with Fry being the exact opposite of jealous when that beach bully tried to steal Leela away from him. (Fry: "Fifty bucks! Not even if she *was* my girlfriend. You take her." Leela: "Fry!")



cartoonlover27

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« Reply #691 on: 09-02-2013 13:27 »
« Last Edit on: 09-02-2013 14:07 »

Here's a pic that was put up on the news thread:



Another new one:
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #692 on: 09-02-2013 14:20 »

About the lower picture:
Just Fan
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« Reply #693 on: 09-02-2013 14:44 »

A larger version of the second picture:
Quantum Neutrino Field

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« Reply #694 on: 09-02-2013 15:38 »
« Last Edit on: 09-02-2013 15:40 »

Just occured to me, what would happen with Fry and Leela if Futurama was to come back? Would they be presented as married couple and we would see their personal life and problems with Bender or would everything keep going normally, except that they would be married? Or, would we see problems and even divorce? The latter would have interesting emotional storylines, but it would feel stupid to end it right away, even temporarily.

Well, this probably isn't something that needs to be concerned...
cartoonlover27

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« Reply #695 on: 09-02-2013 18:50 »

I don't think they'd get divorced. The show wouldn't change too much.

Found some more ship in that second clip they real eased. When they were on that crazy-spidery-ride thing, Fry had his arm around Leela. I'll upload the picture later.
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« Reply #696 on: 09-02-2013 19:09 »

I'll upload the picture later.

Got you covered. ;)

cartoonlover27

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« Reply #697 on: 09-02-2013 19:10 »

You're the best, Danny.
Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #698 on: 09-02-2013 20:31 »

Just occured to me, what would happen with Fry and Leela if Futurama was to come back? Would they be presented as married couple and we would see their personal life and problems with Bender or would everything keep going normally, except that they would be married? Or, would we see problems and even divorce? The latter would have interesting emotional storylines, but it would feel stupid to end it right away, even temporarily.

Well, this probably isn't something that needs to be concerned...

Episode 7B featured them as dedicated couple, whose relationshop is only mentioned when necessary. That concept can also be used on a married couple. Maybe moving together would be expected, but there are couples living apart, after all.
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« Reply #699 on: 09-05-2013 07:17 »

So, any thoughts on the unbridled shippiness of "Meanwhile"? I did a fair amount of complaining about this episode in the review thread (and I stand by those remarks), but I will say this: Leela's line to Fry about never once feeling alone in all their years together was one of the sweetest goddamn things she's ever said to him. It was about ten times better to me than an "I love you" would have been.

And, on the subject of "I love you"s, I was also fond of Fry's lament that he never got to tell Leela he loved her...and that the 140 times he did so don't count because she was never paying much attention. One of the funniest (and truest!) moments of the episode to me.
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« Reply #700 on: 09-05-2013 07:19 »

140? One-hundred and forty? That's a pretty sweet inside reference.  :D

I loved the line "This is all so sudden! After 13 years..."
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« Reply #701 on: 09-05-2013 08:19 »

I want a picture of her getting her hand bitten off. That made me laugh, I don't care I love it when mushy moments are inverted like that.
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« Reply #702 on: 09-05-2013 13:14 »

I tought there was something with that 140 :laff: did any of you nitice a s1e2  reference in the beginning? That lunar cart in yhe ditch they drove in xD
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« Reply #703 on: 09-05-2013 15:17 »
« Last Edit on: 09-06-2013 08:32 »

What I noticed:
The episode mirrored the "lived life" already seen in TLPJF.

- In TLPJF, Leela had basically everything (except Fry), and considered her life not really a happy one.
- In MW, Leela had basically nothing (except Fry), and considered it a life worth living.

I really like that kind of almost mathematical, logic-based character constellations and themes.
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« Reply #704 on: 09-05-2013 20:46 »

Technically Fry and Leela are un-married again, not that it was "official" in the first place.
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« Reply #705 on: 09-05-2013 21:13 »
« Last Edit on: 09-06-2013 00:14 »

I liked very much the connections to TLPJF and Luna Park(ing) scene was obviously a callback to their moment in Episode Two. Nice way to remind thier relationship to build up for the episode.
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« Reply #706 on: 09-06-2013 00:23 »

So, any thoughts on the unbridled shippiness of "Meanwhile"? I did a fair amount of complaining about this episode in the review thread (and I stand by those remarks), but I will say this: Leela's line to Fry about never once feeling alone in all their years together was one of the sweetest goddamn things she's ever said to him. It was about ten times better to me than an "I love you" would have been.

And, on the subject of "I love you"s, I was also fond of Fry's lament that he never got to tell Leela he loved her...and that the 140 times he did so don't count because she was never paying much attention. One of the funniest (and truest!) moments of the episode to me.

Seconded. I also liked that Leela's perfect life was being with Fry and having the freedom to do what they wanted. In a sense it harks back to the pilot. She meets Fry and becomes a spaceship captain with the freedom to travel the universe (with him).  13 years later, her ideal future is surprisingly unchanged. I'm definitely of the Tasty and SilverWolf school of thought, which says that her feelings for Fry go back further than maybe even she realizes.

(Not to mention that hand-holding scene in the pilot, where Bender is very obviously  the third wheel. The kleptomaniac third wheel.  :laff: )

What I noticed:
The episode mirrored the "lived life" already seen in TLPJF.

- In TLPJF, Leela had basically everything (except Fry), and considered her life not really a happy one.
- In MW, Leela had basically nothing (except Fry), and considered it a life worth living.

I really like that kind of almost mathematical, logic-based character constellations and themes.


Nice analysis, Hein!
cartoonlover27

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« Reply #707 on: 09-06-2013 00:28 »

I had the shipping bar set pretty high for this episode, and it exceeded my expectations. Fry and Leela's wedding and wedding kiss was undeniably adorable, and the romantic montage was both beautiful and sad, in the sense that, yes, they're together and happy, but you can just feel something coming around to destroy it, and sure enough, that ending. I actually didn't mind it, but where would they be starting over from? The beginning of the universe? When Fry got frozen? When the time button was made? The ending really had me feeling like I got closure and had me asking questions, which is what I had hoped for. A really beautiful, wonderful ship-filled episode.
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« Reply #708 on: 09-23-2013 15:45 »

It would be cool if Bender got married too.  Bender should marry either Bella or Angelyne.   But not Bev!

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« Reply #709 on: 09-23-2013 19:23 »

I don't think Bender would ever get married. It would be way too out of character for him, unless he was marrying someone solely for her wealth. Even if he was in it for the money, I don't think he could ever stay married since he's really only committed to himself.
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« Reply #710 on: 09-25-2013 02:30 »

I don't think Bender would ever get married. It would be way too out of character for him, unless he was marrying someone solely for her wealth. Even if he was in it for the money, I don't think he could ever stay married since he's really only committed to himself.

I agree. Even when Bender has been in a serious, loving relationship, he still acted somewhat greedy and inconsiderate, (except maybe with Angleine, that just didnt end well for him.)
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« Reply #711 on: 10-06-2013 07:00 »

I want a picture of her getting her hand bitten off. That made me laugh, I don't care I love it when mushy moments are inverted like that.

At first, I was with Fry, being horrified and panicking about having to reverse time.

Then I remembered that the same thing had happened to Fry before and he got new hands in about an hour.
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« Reply #712 on: 10-06-2013 09:27 »

I want a picture of her getting her hand bitten off. That made me laugh, I don't care I love it when mushy moments are inverted like that.

At first, I was with Fry, being horrified and panicking about having to reverse time.

Then I remembered that the same thing had happened to Fry before and he got new hands in about an hour.


Yep. Also, in "Farewell to Arms", the clone arms took weeks to grow. Not too mention the healing time Leela's broken leg suddenly needed.
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« Reply #713 on: 10-07-2013 00:19 »

Then I remembered that the same thing had happened to Fry before and he got new hands in about an hour.

On a related, slightly shippier note: The only moment in the otherwise forgettable "I Dated a Robot" that I find exceptionally amusing is Leela's offer to Fry that he can do everything he's always dreamed of doing in the future...except that.

And with that single, inconsequential remark, I shall resume post-lessly lurking in the shadows of PEEL.
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« Reply #714 on: 10-07-2013 00:46 »


You forgot the "Muahahahaha"...

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« Reply #715 on: 10-07-2013 01:02 »

And the

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« Reply #716 on: 10-07-2013 01:05 »

Gorky isn't Batman; quit messing with my head!
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« Reply #717 on: 10-07-2013 01:10 »

I'm not trying to mess with your head, or am I?  :p

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« Reply #718 on: 10-07-2013 02:08 »

I'm not trying to mess with your head, or am I?  :p

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« Reply #719 on: 10-07-2013 07:05 »

Any Cubert and Dwight shippers around?
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