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Otis P Jivefunk
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Pull what off? The bra from the mutant nipple? ...
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coldangel
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For that matter, I don't see why Family Guy goes in for all the extreme violence, explicit references and profanity, and yet similarly steers clear of any real nudity.
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Tachyon
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Because the largest audience block is in a country full of faux-prudes who scream in outrage at janet/Justin but download exabytes of pr0n and let their little ones revel in prime-time gore?
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futz
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Because the FCC says so, the industry always is quick to point out. But the industry also is not adverse to increasing the price pretty much directly proportional with what can be seen. If the FCC didn't care the industry would probably be out $millions$.
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coldangel
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Yeah, I'm familiar with American hypocrisy... but even so... Sex and the City, The L Word, True Blood, and sundry other live action shows all have nudity. Why not make similarly adult-targeted cartoons? Seems like the only folk who do are the Japanese... and those cartoons you don't want to see.
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futz
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Need some newspaper stories with headlines like:
American 8th Graders Fall Behind Japanese in Boob Drawing Skills.
Can American Animators Close the Boob Gap?
America Lacks Toon Cleavage Leverage.
I'd still probably watch Lady Lala though.
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SpaceGoldfish fromWazn
Urban Legend
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« Reply #90 on: 12-10-2011 15:01 »
« Last Edit on: 12-10-2011 15:05 »
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Yeah, I'm familiar with American hypocrisy... but even so... Sex and the City, The L Word, True Blood, and sundry other live action shows all have nudity. Why not make similarly adult-targeted cartoons? Seems like the only folk who do are the Japanese... and those cartoons you don't want to see.
Remember when Eqqus was revived, and the Moral Guardians were outraged that Daniel Radcliffe was going to be nude (I mean, how dare he, doesn't he know he's Harry Potter and is not allowed to be anything but an actor in child friendly productions)? I mean, who the hell does he think he is, challenging himself as an actor and trying to avoid typecasting? Little bastard. But seriously though an animated SatC would be fine, as long as there's no gay couples in it. Because the only thing that horrifies American more then a partially exposed breast, or god forbid... a PENIS is two men holding hands or kissing. Girl on girl is fine though, as long as they're not "in love" (because that's gross), and are only "experimenting" or trying to get the attention of some drunken fratboys (in universe and out).
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TheMadCapper
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UberMod
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Yeah, I'm familiar with American hypocrisy... but even so... Sex and the City, The L Word, True Blood, and sundry other live action shows all have nudity. Why not make similarly adult-targeted cartoons? Seems like the only folk who do are the Japanese... and those cartoons you don't want to see.
Because cartoons traditionally have been targeted toward and appeal strongly to children. It's a visual style that kids are conditioned to watch. Not to mention, I assume cartoon nudity is somewhat of a niche market, even among adults who watch shows like Futurama. I might be wrong here but I'm guessing most people prefer looking at the real thing. Unless we're talking about Japan and that's probably just because real octopi don't make very convincing rapists in live-action film.
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coldangel
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I dunno, I've met some pretty randy octopi.
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Dr.green:)
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I say yes to all of that stuff maybe alittle more alcohol and drug usage
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Beamer
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The level of nudity/profanity in the show is fine the way it is. Very infrequent pushing of the envelope while still not being completely off-putting. Plus it wouldn't make sense to change the level of censorship in the show after 140 episodes; it would make for an unnecessary change in tone.
When Arrested Development returned on Netflix earlier this year, they kept the beeps in even though they didn't have to, and it was one of the best decisions they made.
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MeatablePie
Professor
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I always wonder if Groening and Co. would get sued if they said "weed" instead of "hemp" during episodes. I know hemp is another name for marijuana, but I just thought of that recently.
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futz
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Can't get sued for such things in the US. A show can only be sued for things like stealing from another show or author, damaging a person's or company's reputation or the like. The FCC can fine a show big time (especially broadcast) but words like hemp, weed, ganja, Mary Jane, blunt, spliff aren't considered profane.
The Simpsons at least in past seasons had much more sexual content than Futurama but for the most part it was between a married couple (Homer and Marge) so it seemed more appropriate. The past few seasons of The Simpsons have had very little, perhaps because nothing happened to suit the stories.
I think the low amount of sexual content in Futurama was self imposed even though it might have boosted viewership of it's intended target viewing audience (males 18-35 or something like that). Sometimes it seemed to a lamely nerdy degree, a bit like Fry's dumbness. You could probably make the case that the original Fox run of shows was more provocative than the CC run with the movies being in between.
Maybe Matt and David just got too old to think much about it.
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Beamer
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Season 2 arguably has the most sex out of all the Futurama seasons.
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Beamer
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I thought the censored swearing in The Silence of the Clamps seemed really out-of-place, myself.
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Tachyon
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I think I mentioned it up-thread, but I thought it was great for the first one or two. Then it got Southparked to death.
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Beamer
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They're not. Basic cable still has more than its fair share of rules and guidelines it needs to follow. If it didn't, South Park would've opted out of the beeps years ago.
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Lost My Phone
Professor
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Yeah, while words like "shit" and "Jesus Christ" can be said on cable, "fuck" can't.
Also, I think that Zoidberg's line in The Silence of the Clamps sounds funnier bleeped than it would if it weren't bleeped.
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Eternium
Professor
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Zoidberg's line there still makes me chuckle everytime I watch it^^ I think fuck shouldn't have to be censored out, the words true meaning is pretty much gone in my opinion, it fits in every fucking sentense. (see what I mean?)
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coldangel
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Moot point as show has ended. All on-topic sections of forum need to be closed forthwith.
Though I still maintain Futurama would have been far more successful with boobs.
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