Shipping Even Higher into the Sun...

[Reply #160 on:]

I know how you shippers pick up on every tiny, tiny detail, but here's one you missed:

When Leela recieves her Slurmie award, she gets congratulated by the crew, and then gives Fry a kiss on the forehead.

[Reply #161 on:]

I know how you shippers pick up on every tiny, tiny detail, but here's one you missed:

When Leela recieves her Slurmie award, she gets congratulated by the crew, and then gives Fry a kiss on the forehead.

I didn't miss it!  Though I think sorry Leels, Fry deserves a bit more sugar then that.  He's not a diabetic, woman!

[Reply #162 on:]

(That said, I did enjoy Leela kissing Fry's forehead before going up to accept her Young People's Choice Award in last night's episode.)

[Reply #163 on:]

I didn't miss it!  Though I think sorry Leels, Fry deserves a bit more sugar then that.  He's not a diabetic, woman!

I am! COME TO ME LEELA.

[Reply #164 on:]

I know how you shippers pick up on every tiny, tiny detail, but here's one you missed:

When Leela recieves her Slurmie award, she gets congratulated by the crew, and then gives Fry a kiss on the forehead.

I saw that and wondered if we might actually get any other shipping content out of the episode. Of course, it disapponted on that score as much as on any other, but the kiss has given me a little hope for the next few episodes before the end of Season... are we calling it Season 8 now?

[Reply #165 on:]

are we calling it Season 8 now?

6B... I think...

[Reply #166 on:]

Egad. Confusion abounds!

[Reply #167 on:]

I saw that and wondered if we might actually get any other shipping content out of the episode. Of course, it disapponted on that score as much as on any other, but the kiss has given me a little hope for the next few episodes before the end of Season... are we calling it Season 8 now?

I agree that it wouldn't have been entirely out-of-line to include more Fry/Leela stuff in YLL, but (in addition to the forehead kiss), I also liked that Fry sincerely congratulates Leela on a job well done, and that's what fills her with just enough Telltale Heart-ish guilt to go nutsy cuckoo and start confessing to everyone about what she's done.

[Reply #168 on:]

Something I don't hear mentioned much - Leela and Cubert in TLPJF.

[Reply #169 on:]

Because it's icky.

Actually, though, it just adds to the sadness of Leela's subplot in that episode, that she wastes most of her life being mad at Fry while at the same time trying to be with someone just like him because she misses him so badly.

[Reply #170 on:]

She should have just built a robot Fry, gotta be better than Cubert surely?...

[Reply #171 on:]

She tried that in "Rebirth," though, and it didn't exactly end well...

And I appreciated the use of Cubert in TLPJF; it was probably his least obnoxious appearance ever. The way he snorts when he tells Leela Fry went to the pervert party--and the way Leela emulates that snort--always makes me, well, snort. But in a laugh-y kind of way.

[Reply #172 on:]

Maybe she should have built a robot Cubert, gotta be better than a real Cubert surely?...

[Reply #173 on:]

Maybe she should have built a robot Cubert, gotta be better than a real Cubert surely?...

I'm thinking no...

[Reply #174 on:]

Perhaps in TLPJF it was a robot Cubert we saw and that's why he wasn't so obnoxious! ...

[Reply #175 on:]

 Oh god, Leela and Cubert.

[Reply #176 on:]

You're more an Amy/Cubert fan then, eh?

[Reply #177 on:]

Nobody's in favour of Farnsworth/Cubert?

I just made myself feel sick.

[Reply #178 on:]

Hermes and Fry....?

[Reply #179 on:]

I do kind of like how Hermes has taken a sort of paternalistic interest in the rest of the crew a few times this season (giving Bender a pep talk in "Lethal Inspection," giving Fry advice on the Leela situation in "The Prisoner of Benda" (and helping Amy to stop destroying Leela's body in the same episode))...but I dunno. The only crewmember he seems to have eyes for is Zoidberg, what with the showing-him-a-picture-of-his-penis thing in "Benderama."

[Reply #180 on:]

I completely agree with Gorky about the Fry/Leela relationship being fairly stable in 6a and then being completely non-existent in 6b.  What gives?

In that regard, 6a felt like fresher more mature Futurama.... where as 6b has been well... you get the picture. (random plots from the comics)

[Reply #181 on:]

Nobody's in favour of Farnsworth/Cubert?

I just made myself feel sick.

That's pretty much just masturbation.  It is kind of Farnsworth's job to show himself how to do it after all.

[Reply #182 on:]

Nobody's in favour of Farnsworth/Cubert?

I just made myself feel sick.

Everyone is in favor of Cubert/Woodchipper.

[Reply #183 on:]

You're more an Amy/Cubert fan then, eh?

I actually would prefer Amy and Cubert, haha!
As long as Leela is with Fry, everything is fine.

[Reply #184 on:]

This isn't a strictly shippy moment, but I liked the Lars callback in "All the Presidents' Heads." One of my main problems with the three movies that followed BBS is that none of them made reference of this Huge, Life-Changing Thing that happened to Leela (chiefly, falling in love with a dude who later died and turned out to be a more mature version of this other dude who's always had a crush on her); Dr. Cahill confusing Fry for Lars was not only a subtle nod to the fact that they were the same person, but also one of the funnier callbacks in a season that has been full of them.

[Reply #185 on:]

Gorky, that was probably my favorite part of that episode. I love BBS and my biggest problem was them never talking about it again, but it was nice to see a bit of a callback.

I agree that 6b has been a little bit of a let down when it comes to shippy-ness. And I'm really hoping for a little something more.
However, as long as they aren't obviously dating other people then I'm okay just waiting for something to happen.

[Reply #186 on:]

What I dislike is the way HOW the writers try to avoid adressing the L/F relationship in season 6b.

- In this season, both characters seems to avoid each other, and hardly have any private interaction/communication (not even non-romantic ones).
- Unlike the Family Sitcom Simpsons, Futurama was always established as a workplace sitcom. Characters did interact mostly on a business-level. Fry, Leela and Bender had a special role as protagonists, and -compared to other characters- a relatively large part of their private life was involved.
- Regarding that private interaction, Fry did serve as the Focus who held the trio together (Leela as love interest, Bender as Best-Buddy).
-> By taking out the Leela/Fry interaction over a longer time (as right now seen in episode 6b, when they hardly speak any private word to each other), the writers do mess -at least imhO- rather much with an establiched character constellation, and do not have anything else to compensate for it.

[Reply #187 on:]

Yes but it's (apparently) going to have a big change in Overclockwise.

[Reply #188 on:]

I am afraid you didn't get the point of my criticism (or, upon reading my post a second time, I'd rather have to admit I didn't make myself really clear;)).

Okay...I'll try to do better this time

The major point of my cristcism was that the writers -trying to downplay the L/F relationship- also downplayed their private, non-romantic interaction way too much.
One episode alone ("Overclockwise", as you mentioned) will not solve the problem.

To give a comparable Simpsons example.
a) Homer not going to bed with Marge for 13 Episodes : No big deal, no problem at all, who cares?
b) Homer hardly talking to Marge at all for 13 Episodes: Not really acceptable, too much messing around with the character constellation.

And in season 6B, the Futurama writers went too much the direction of b).

[Reply #189 on:]

I agree.  This is one of the most irritating flaws of 6b in my opinion.  They were doing so well with 6a too.

[Reply #190 on:]

I agree, season 6b seems like the L/F relationship from 6a never happened., well even towards the end of 6a it was less and less mentioned.

[Reply #191 on:]

I disagree about Fry and Leela's relationship being dropped towards the end of 6A; "The Prisoner of Benda," "Lrrreconcilable Ndndifferences," and "The Mutants Are Revolting" all have shippy elements.

But I do agree about the disappointing lack of shippiness this season. I think the problem here is alternately a lack of strong stories about Fry and Leela as individuals (after all, there were a whole lot of Bender episodes at the start of the season, and these focused on the Fry/Bender relationship more than anything else), and a lot of wacky premises that don't lend themselves well to quieter, character-driven scenes ("All the Presidents' Heads," for example, had no room for shippy stuff). There were at least a few solid interactions between Fry and Leela in "Yo Leela Leela" (the forehead kiss at the awards ceremony, Fry congratulating Leela on her success (which drives her to confess to how the whole thing's been a sham)), and one could assume that part of what drives Fry to become a cop in "Law and Oracle" is the idea that he might impress Leela. And there hasn't been anything in season 6B to really contradict the fact that Fry and Leela are maybe, sorta dating--there just hasn't been much to confirm it, either.

At any rate, I'm hoping we see some more Fry and Leela stuff in, of course, "Overclockwise"--but also "Fry Am the Eggman" and "Cold Warriors," which have seemed to have shippy potential to me since we first got the synopses.

[Reply #192 on:]

I would like to see Fry and Leela bonding over Mr Peppy, like its a surrogate baby for them (like some young couples fuss over their first puppy or kitten and call it their child).  One of the few things Fry and Leela have in common is their kindness towards lifeforms/robots that are extremely dangerous/trying to kill them.  I can imagine the two of them going "Awww!  Isn't he precious!" whilst Mr Peppy trying eat Bender/crush Zoidberg/disembowel Amy.   At the same time.

[Reply #193 on:]

I agree with you Gorky.
I'm STILL WAITING for something to happen between the two of them. It's getting annoying, but I'm sure there are some shippy episodes out there, they just haven't aired yet. There really hasn't been a place for it though, as you said. These episodes haven't focused much on either of them in a way for it to work well in the story. But in 6A they would throw in stuff here and there...like in The Duh Vinci Code, Fry Says "Hey, wanna join the mile deep club?" Or something like that. And those are the little things that count for me. The fact that there hasn't really been any of that, or a big shippy episode is what makes me sad

However, It is still good that there hasn't been a story of either Fry or Leela dating someone else, as there has been in a lot of seasons. And if you've noticed, there hasn't really been any moments where Fry seems to be begging for Leela's love or approval, as there was in past seasons as well. So, I think it's safe to say the writers want them to be together, and assume they are, but don't really have a place for those kind of moments right now.

[Reply #194 on:]

I was right about "Fry Am the Egg Man" having shippy elements, so hooray for me. It wasn't shippy in the way I might have wanted (really? Leela's going to call Fry her platonic friend? It was funny to see Fry's reaction to that, but it still bugged me), but there were some nice moments between Fry and Leela. She comforted him in act two when he had to set Mr. Peppy free; they were getting kinda cozy in that barn; Fry was willing to kill Mr. Peppy to keep Leela safe (which I saw coming, but hearing him say that he loved Leela more than he loved Mr. Peppy was sweet); and Leela assured Fry that there was no need to kill Mr. Peppy, showing that she understood his significance in Fry's life.

So, there. The events of this episode actually contradict my belief that Fry and Leela are in a relationship, but I am strangely unbothered by this. If nothing else, this episode puts their relationship in an ambiguous and unsatisfying place (Fry loves Leela wholeheartedly, but she's willing to have slutty brunches with guys named Angus?) that I am totally confident will be addressed and rectified in "Overclockwise."

[Reply #195 on:]

Their current relationship is kind of similar to something I've been through with a friend...where one wants a relationship, the other isn't sure, and both know that feelings exist...It isn't new that Fry indefinitely loves Leela--that's been pretty consistent. But Leela, in my opinion, has been back and forth. I don't think she really knows what she wants, and is staying on the "strictly platonic" side of things right now. It isn't the same as the old run, and it seems like their "relationship" is in a state of limbo.

But that's my opinion, and who listens to that?   

[Reply #196 on:]

So, there. The events of this episode actually contradict my belief that Fry and Leela are in a relationship, but I am strangely unbothered by this. If nothing else, this episode puts their relationship in an ambiguous and unsatisfying place (Fry loves Leela wholeheartedly, but she's willing to have slutty brunches with guys named Angus?) that I am totally confident will be addressed and rectified in "Overclockwise."

If it's not addressed, I'll be disappointed.

[Reply #197 on:]

I'm fairly positive that it will be, based on what DXC has been saying about the episode in interviews. I don't know why the most recent episode would make such a point about Fry and Leela not being together (but still caring for each other immensely) if they didn't intend to readdress the situation later on.

"Fry Am the Egg Man" is the twenty-second episode, so production-wise it's close to the finale. I know Futurama has never really been a serialized show, but I can't help but think there's some significance to the portrayal of Fry and Leela's relationship in Egg Man and all that we know about "Overclockwise."

[Reply #198 on:]

AGH!!!!!

Yes, Gorky at least they finally addressed the relationship. Some cute moments, yes. But UGH. Do we really have to go through this again?
Seriously Matt Groening has me hooked for life. I don't know how....

[Reply #199 on:]

It kind of annoyed me that all of a sudden now Leela is calling Fry her strictly platonic friend. The beginning of this season seemed to imply they were pretty much a couple now. Then nothing more was said on the matter. And now they're back to being just friends. I is are confrootsed. Or just haven't been playing close attention