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coldangel
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It's wrong that I'm becoming desensitized to that... I watched the TOS episode 'Shore Leave' yesterday, and there's a scene in the start where Kirk is complaining to Spock of lower back pains, and a female Yeoman starts massaging him... and he initially thinks that Spock is doing it. When he realizes it's not Spock he looks a little annoyed... ...or maybe that image has seeped too deeply into my brain and I'm imagining things.
But playing on this disturbing angle, and taking it back to the thread topic: the Spock/Kirk dynamic is similar to Leela/Fry. Leela being the impassive Logical counterpart to Fry's impulsive passion. There. Will anyone look at Fry and Leela the same way again?
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gaschief
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Xanfor your obscure vader picture is awesome I have saved this to my PC, also it is thus far the most compelling post on this page so far!
Back to the earlier suggestion about Fry making Leela jealous as a vehicle for motivating her passion. I was just watching 'a flight to remember' I had forgoten about this but Leela gets incredibly jealous of Fry's fake relationship with Amy. In fact later they almost kiss until the ship starts careering into the black hole! Incidentally that has got to be one of Zapp's most impressive blunders!
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coldangel
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Originally posted by gaschief: Leela gets incredibly jealous of Fry's fake relationship with Amy. What Fry should have said: "Girls, girls - you can BOTH have me."Yeah, at that point Leela had some very blatant feelings for Fry... which she overcompensated for with kneejerk violent threats - "take it off or I'll break it off." But later, in Put Your Head on My Shoulder, she's gained greater control. Originally posted by gaschief: Incidentally that has got to be one of Zapp's most impressive blunders! That we KNOW of. Originally posted by Archonix: You forget, as any Trek fan knows, Chapel is hot for Spock...
I. Did. Not! Also, Yoeman Janice Rand is hot for Kirk, and they were originally intended to be a romantic couple... but she wasn't around long enough for anything to play out. The actress, Grace Lee Whitney, had some kind of falling-out with the producers or something.
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coldangel
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Literally all of the very specific aspects are chillingly identical my myself in real life. It would explain much about certain failings that I exhibit.
Nevertheless...
Sure, I'd like to see Fry and Leela knocking boots. But you know... censorship.
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coldangel
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I know that one. I posted some... exotic artworks there ages ago.
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Frisco17
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I tend to agree with Deca about the zero thing. Now earlier in the episode when Fry and Amy told everybody about what happened Leela looked almost angry. I think that's a much better example.
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bend_her
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Hate to say it, but that page describes about half the internet Heh... isn't that always the case when us ordinary folk read medical literature? Honestly, I wonder how doctors go through life without becoming hypochondriacs. Sure, I'd like to see Fry and Leela knocking boots. But you know... censorship. That's what DVDs and fan art are for *stares mutely at Leela's butt in Archonix' fanart*
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gaschief
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Originally posted by coldangel_1:Leela often appears to demonstrate negative concern over Fry's relationships - like Umbriel, Lucy Liu-bot, Morgan, Radiator Woman (heh). And when she has no reason for outright concern, she instead shows disdain, like when he's with Amy: "I'm sure you'll be back to zero (women) soon enough."
It's probably her weird self-deluding passive-aggressive way of manifesting her jealousy. I agree with these observations, Iam divided though on whether these reactions are due to her love for Fry or her pathological need for validation in terms of fry's repeated advances that she never intends to respond to. It would be very interesting to see what would happen if Fry was to deprive leela of this attention for a sustained period. My suspicion is that leela is caught between the need for the validation that Fry's advances afford her and powerfull feelings for Fry that she is very uncomfortable with and tries hard to disguise. I would add that in my humble opinion Leela's discomfort with these feelings comes from an innate fear of intimacy, probably tied in with child hood experience of having no close significant others [i.e parents or guardians of her own].
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coldangel
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Hah. Xan, is that one of yours?
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Frisco17
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Hey I have an idea let's post this on every goddamn page instead of the trek thing!!!
Sorry lost the happy there for a minute. What I meant to say was. "Aw tat's sho shweet"
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Xanfor
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Naa, Erik Heltner drew it. But thanks for the compliment.
And someone's gonna have to resize it if we want to post it on every page.
Maybe I'll do that.
Tomorrow. :yawn:
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JustNibblin
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Hey. Just saw the movie, and thought shippers may like to know two ships are a major part of the plot . Regarding the Fry/Leela subplot It is a major part of the movie, and pretty well done, but it will be controversial among shippers. There will be a LOT of fresh discussion on this thread. And I personally learned something surprising about how DXC and co view Fry: He is actually not stupid at all, just immature. I reviewed other aspects of the movie on the review thread.
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coldangel
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Controversial?!
Aww...
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coldangel
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I don't want to watch it now.
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Xanfor
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« Reply #352 on: 11-16-2007 07:51 »
« Last Edit on: 11-16-2007 07:51 »
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Originally posted by JustNibblin':
And I personally learned something surprising about how DXC and co view Fry:
He is actually not stupid at all, just immature. Uh... If that's anything like intellectual lazyness, then I've been saying it for years.
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SonicPanther
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Controversial in a bad way or in a good way?
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Frida Waterfall
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« Reply #354 on: 11-16-2007 19:26 »
« Last Edit on: 11-16-2007 19:26 »
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Originally posted by JustNibblin': And I personally learned something surprising about how DXC and co view Fry:
He is actually not stupid at all, just immature. Knew it. Originally posted by JustNibblin': Just saw the movie, and thought shippers may like to know
two ships are a major part of the plot. Let me guess... there's the ship between Fry/Leela and a ship between Leela/Guy on Nudist Planet.
Regarding the Fry/Leela subplot
It is a major part of the movie, and pretty well done, but it will be controversial among shippers. There will be a LOT of fresh discussion on this thread. Ah, this better not be my theory on how a romance between Fry/Leela would lead to unhappiness for one or both of them compared to the new romance that sprouted with Leela's new love in the movie. I have a queasy feeling inside. I think I'll be going through a depression for the next ten days.
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SonicPanther
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There is no way I could possibly resist saving that.
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coldangel
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Ah, my words upon a motivational poster. Finally.
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