Once More, Into the Deep: or, I love Futurama, it goes so well with my soul...

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Leela jumping in front of the Bee to save Fry... can you imagine her doing that? I think she's probably more likely to push Fry out of the way and fight the bee rather than taking the actual stinger if the situation was reversed.

TOTPD

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I dont know...

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Originally posted by Decapodian:
Woah!
This is getting way off topic.

*runs away from coldangel*

NO WE ARE NOT. THIS IS WHAT THE THREAD IS ALL ABOUT. Make that mistake again and I will have you for ...er... a cocktail.

The other shippy thread is for the light and pleasant stuff. THIS is the proud baby of the DD thread and it's where claws come out and virgins get sacrificed ('come on, eveyone has seen Zapp's web page!)

CA mentioned dual personality. EXPLOIT / TOY with it. Be one here, someone else in the other. If you want. But please don't drown it in trivialities. BTW so far is all good 

And on an unrelated matter, I seem to drone on-an-on-an-on with everyone hearing and no-one listening, Shiny. meh... where's my beer?

[HINT Start]On another unrelated matter, there's an Yahoo account overflowing with mails and I wonder if / where I went wrong and I want a clear cut amswer.[HINT End]


And ColdAnJoel is mostly right. The sexes are NOT equal, they were never meant to be. Most of what he says just sounds right to me. And funny thing is, I know I am biased by a culture I considered infested by communist influences.. I am confused... but not angry. Maybe Ralph is right, CA (see end of his post defending your ... er... tendencies)

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Well, I wouldn't say they're not equal. They are equal, but different. I know that's what you meant, Ovidiu, I just thought I'd make clear that clarification before you get jumped on.

Acceptence of difference is not an embrace of inequality, ladies. I've said it before - our natural differences are beautiful things that should be embraced and celebrated, not forcibly suppressed in some kind of unnatural conformity.

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It's not fair! Why do females have to be the pregnant ones!? And the ones who have to have the baby? It like hurts (probably, I haven't been pregnant before)! But it must hurt! And you get mood swings and morning sickness and stuff.

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Getting shot and stabbed and beaten to within an inch of one's life hurts too. But this is what we are.

Of course you have the option of not having children. I will never have children. Yet you will still have an instinct to nurture and I will still have an instinct to leap headlong into certain death at every given opportunity.
It's a good thing  .

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Originally posted by Cyberphobia:
It's not fair! Why do females have to be the pregnant ones!? And the ones who have to have the baby? It like hurts (probably, I haven't been pregnant before)! But it must hurt! And you get mood swings and morning sickness and stuff.

But the men have to put up with the women complaining about all that crap.

But complaining is fun.

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LOL but it's worse for us. We have to have periods and stuff. No amount of listening about periods could be worse than having periods.

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Well I won't argue with that.

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Yeah...but we can always just get our sexual organs removed. Case closed.

Oh, right, the whole childbearing thing...you only have to do that if you really want to. Too much scary responsibilty for me. And that's why I'm going to be a teacher. 

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Really!? I'm gonna be a teacher too!! Primary School.

I hope to have 2 kids one day. And at least one of them must be a girl, I'll like cry if I have two boys LOL.

I didn't know we could get our sexual organs removed.

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o ya, thats a great idea, you get a big friken sticker

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Originally posted by Cyberphobia:
Really!? I'm gonna be a teacher too!! Primary School.

I hope to have 2 kids one day. And at least one of them must be a girl, I'll like cry if I have two boys LOL.

I didn't know we could get our sexual organs removed.

We probably can't get our sexual organs fully removed, I was just being silly. But you can stop them from being active..

Haha, when I was younger I used to think I'd want a boy and a girl as my kids, because I have this thing where I like stuff to be even. But then I thought more as  time went on and didn't think I'd be able to manage trying to raise two kids so I'd probably only feel comfortable with one, but then I'd want them to have a sibling because I know how lonely it is not to have any...so the easiest option is to not have kids at all. Only two more years until I'll hopefully be qualified to teach, and then I can start building my collection of surrogate children...30 a year...Having students is like having your own kids, only without too much of the mess, and without having to suffer through too much of what goes on in their teens!
Heh, everybody seems to be going into teaching these days. There'll be no-one left to teach because we'll all be trying to teach each other things.

And about having boys...I have a friend at uni who has three sons.  They're gorgeous though.

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Imagine this for a big shocking Futurama episode!

Show spoiler

Fry has his sexual organs removed.

It is just a joke so put the broken bottle down....

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Originally posted by Cyberphobia:
LOL but it's worse for us. We have to have periods and stuff. No amount of listening about periods could be worse than having periods.

Aahhh, one of my favourite topics  not really, it was more like a scuffle with Mr. J on whether you would want to experience the full array of female experiences or not. As you may remember, Mr. J rejected the perspective of 'the cock', and the girls cautioned on the so-callled 'period' - while myself, as a fully matured specimen willing to experience life to the fullest, rejected none. Good.  (Oh dear..)

Anyway. There is an easier way to get rid of the period. GET PREGNANT. It works !

Disclaimer: this effect may be only temporary and may have other, permanent side effects, such as small clones of yourself crying 'mommy'

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Originally posted by any1else:

Oh, right, the whole childbearing thing...... Too much scary responsibilty for me. ...

See my prev post on your future self    Never say never. Just common sense. Just say 'maybe', 'could be', and the like. Note - no hidden meanings here, sorry if I sound like Big Brother or something... I can't find the word right now.

 

by Cyber
It like hurts (probably, I haven't been pregnant before)!

Ohhh yeah. Kidney stone pain is nothing
 

And you get mood swings and morning sickness and stuff.

Not everybody. A very good girlfriend of mine only had symptoms for one day during the whole pregnancy.

You probably wonder - is this F_B (or Ovidiu, but I don't remember his name and what name is that anyway) in fact a female ? There's something fishy about all this sex swap / change stuff... Well, I'll adopt Israel's policy, adapted to my needs: gender ambiguity. Nah... look at the picture...

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At least there are no periods after menopause. But menopause isn't supposed to be fun either.

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Ye gads... it's turned into a sodding women's health seminar. Great, now I know a whole heap of things that I didn't want or need to know...

**blocks ears** Not my business, not my business, not my business...

I'll walk right back out the way I came in and leave you all to it... 

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Haha. Yeah, I'm getting tired of this too....

Let's see if I can take the topic in a new direction. (Uh oh, not being a sheep for once. This is going to hurt.  )

Last night I went clubbing for the second time. The first time was only a couple of weeks ago, at a different place, but both times were because one of my best friends has been going for a while now with people from TAFE and wanted us 'older' friends to experience it as well.
After being in that sort of atmosphere a couple of times now I have to say it really creeps me out. People go there specifically to 'get with' somebody of their sexual preferance - and most of these people who're scouring the place are DRUNK as all hell...It's disgusting. I mean, I knew humans were disgusting but now I know know it. (Ahh, the joys of first-hand experience.) It made me think of Futurama (link to that show we all like..) when they took Leela to the nightclub type place, and it made me wonder why anybody would even bother to go somewhere like that to find someone. Okay, a one-night-stand sure, whatever floats your boat, but Leela certainly wasn't looking for that. The fact that people get drunk and hit on each other is the stupidest thing I ever heard...alcohol affects your brain so you no longer act the way you would normally act...you end up doing stupid things, and if you're with someone else you may end up doing extremely stupid things.
So why do it? I find it gross that people can go in there not knowing anybody and try their luck with practically everybody.
Has anything good ever resulted from an encounter in such a place? Does thou think finding a partner is something that can be done the way of randomly selecting from a pack of cards? Smelly, drunken cards... *shudder* Not everybody there is looking for some drunk person to hang out with. Some are just there have fun with their friends who they know and trust...Nobody listens to Maz when she says "We could easily just do this at home without the sleazy drunk people pushing up against us."

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I second that emotion. You wouldn't see me put my big toe into a nightclub. I despise the places and have on numerous occassions set fire to them, killing all the occupants.

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Well done. You will soon be honoured with the Arsonist of the Month award.

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Finally!

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Originally posted by coldangel_1:
Ye gads... it's turned into a sodding women's health seminar. Great, now I know a whole heap of things that I didn't want or need to know...

**blocks ears** Not my business, not my business, not my business...

I'll walk right back out the way I came in and leave you all to it...   

CA, it's not that bad, c'mon. What, pain at birth, pregnancy effects? Are you nuts? These details aren't even close to gory my friend. When you - or the other people here will go through this kind of thing yourself, or will be holding the hand of your spouse terrified of what's going on (after all is a primal aspect of life), after all that, you will be a lot more relaxed about it all. Believe me.

So all this is not a subject to be discussed with priority or to be avoided, but rather be debated if it is somewhat relevant. Just like anything else. Phew... Ok CA, unplug your ears, Bad Santa is aiming his rocket at you, silly ! RUN!

BTW, I'll look at any1else's story in a sec, but you girls, would you prefer a boyfriend that plugs his ears (not you CA, I am just using this as an example, relax) when hearing of this stuff, or one that is relaxed about it and says 'well that not engrossing or anything, but a part of life'?

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*shrug* Just the way I see it.
Periods aren't a man's business any more than... I dunno... erectile dysfunctions or prostate checkups are a woman's business. I'm not grossed out, I just feel I'm encroaching on territory that's not my own when I hear that kind of stuff... it's like I'm trespassing.

So much talk about bodily functions... what next? Bowel movements? Sheeesh.

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Originally posted by any1else:

...Does thou think finding a partner is something that can be done the way of randomly selecting from a pack of cards? Smelly, drunken cards... *shudder* Not everybody there is looking for some drunk person to hang out with. Some are just there have fun with their friends who they know and trust...Nobody listens to Maz when she says "We could easily just do this at home without the sleazy drunk people pushing up against us."

Well... in Futurama I believe they showed all this to prepare us for the Zapp episode, i.e. to show how depressed Leela was and how everyone was more or less intruding in her private life  - making it even worse. Although I am sure she kept hoping one of those stupid attempts *may* bring something good (ahhh Bender and his Gaydar - that was SWEET - genius I'd say)

And to come back to real life, you know, that kind of thing DOES happen. Although I believe the environment has a big impact on your odds. What do I mean? Well, I have not been to any of the clubs...but it may happen that another person like you went there for the same reason you did and it also may happen you could somehow bump into each other and that could grow iunto the love of your life (or whatever you call it - love everyone in a different way, every love is the greatest (insert Shiny's view here)...you probably understand what I mean). Of crs the sleazier the place the worse the odds. But it can happen. So I believe some people hope for this to happen.

I mean, what else can you do?  It appears that 'here' (I mean AUS now, but Western culture by extension), if you are alone and desperate and have no friends to 'hook you up' (or no-one to hook you up with), you either go to 'Desperate and Dateless'-type events (at least they're ugly but not drunk there - right...right ?), read the ads in the paper, or go to a club. Period (the syntactic-type).

So to wrap up (finally): yes it can happen but I don't like the odds.

But I want to ask you back: suppose you are dateless but also desperate, what do you do here? Huh? Huh? See, hormones and loneliness may make the stinking pack of cards appealing. Gee, I feel my indignation at Leela doing it with Zapp fading... but no - all I need is to imagine her kissing him on his flabby belly in the passion of love-making (pause here for you to visualise it.......done?), and that flares the upset back on (Sigh)

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Originally posted by coldangel_1:
*shrug* Just the way I see it.
it's like I'm trespassing.

So much talk about bodily functions... what next? Bowel movements? Sheeesh.

I specifically said it was not directed at / relating to you, man... You're not interested in getting married / laid anyway - didn't you imply that? So what the heck... 

As for bowel movements... (had to stop to laugh here, this is funny, ohh...) well, you're not trespassing there, I have this feeling they are pretty much the same for all of us humans 

Thanks for that, I needed a laugh. (The vodka also helped, but believe me, it was a just a facilitator (like the worms were for Fry), you were the main reason)

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Good. Brevity is good. It distracts us from our impending doom.

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Originally posted by Fry_B:
But I want to ask you back: suppose you are dateless but also desperate, what do you do here? Huh? Huh? See, hormones and loneliness may make the stinking pack of cards appealing. Gee, I feel my indignation at Leela doing it with Zapp fading... but no - all I need is to imagine her kissing him on his flabby belly in the passion of love-making (pause here for you to visualise it.......done?), and that flares the upset back on (Sigh)

Well, considering I've been 'dateless' ever since those 'hormone' thingies began making some members of the opposite sex appealing in some way, which was what, at least 6 or 7 years ago, I'd say I'm doing pretty well not to have succumbed to the 'desperate' actions of some.
Hmm...now I feel proud  ...yet unattractive. Haha. Yeah, that's what I can't understand about Leela. I can understand what it feels like to think you're not attractive for some reason or other (I'm sure most of us do..ladies anyway, I've never been able to think like a male) but Leela still holds such high standards (well...) for who she finds attractive (pfft, I didn't know there was a choice). There was a stage where I thought I'd be like one of those desperate people who end up with any random dickhead, but then I figured out that I'd have to first like the dickhead to want to spend any time with him. Somehow Leela managed to block out any judgement of character and got involved with rather grossly mannered men. I love it after she's slept with Zapp and says "Don't you think I feel bad enough already?" and Fry goes "No!" because...well, she really could have avoided it. And it makes me feel like I'm smarter and stronger than an animated character. And in the end, isn't that what we all want?

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Originally posted by any1else:
  I love it after she's slept with Zapp and says "Don't you think I feel bad enough already?" and Fry goes "No!" because...well, she really could have avoided it. And it makes me feel like I'm smarter and stronger than an animated character. And in the end, isn't that what we all want?

Aaaah.. Pity sex....

Where would the male gender be without it...

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Awww, Mazzie, you're not unattractive. In fact you're very cute.

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How do you know what she looks like?

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We're acquainted.

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Originally posted by any1else:
 Well, considering I've been 'dateless' ever since those 'hormone' thingies began making some members of the opposite sex appealing in some way, which was what, at least 6 or 7 years ago, I'd say I'm doing pretty well not to have succumbed to the 'desperate' actions of some.
Hmm...now I feel proud    ...yet unattractive. Haha. Yeah, that's what I can't understand about Leela. I can understand what it feels like to think you're not attractive for some reason or other (I'm sure most of us do..ladies anyway, I've never been able to think like a male) but Leela still holds such high standards (well...) for who she finds attractive (pfft, I didn't know there was a choice). There was a stage where I thought I'd be like one of those desperate people who end up with any random dickhead, but then I figured out that I'd have to first like the dickhead to want to spend any time with him. Somehow Leela managed to block out any judgement of character and got involved with rather grossly mannered men. I love it after she's slept with Zapp and says "Don't you think I feel bad enough already?" and Fry goes "No!" because...well, she really could have avoided it. And it makes me feel like I'm smarter and stronger than an animated character. And in the end, isn't that what we all want?

Unattractive: If its physical and not terminal and/or medical, you can help it. It may sound shallow, but it gives you confidence. If you 'look good', lots of males will suddenly be interested. Don't say anything yet. Out of this bunch of males mainly driven by the will to mate, some have in fact brains that work. You can sift those through, and then find one that you like and has more brain that the average. And so on. So the physical aspect can be helped, and then you become smart and good looking.[obvious]Being smart is a lot harder you see...[/obvious]. Of course you can say 'I want a man that likes me for my mind... etc. Fine too. I just proposed an alternative.

As for Futurama, I am saying it again: in Love Labour it was all planned towards Leela falling for Zapp. Leela had to be miserable, just like Fry had to be in the gutter before he saved the World in The Why of Fry. It's just the way the F'rama writers want it to be, and it kinda works. Shiny proposed a theory that said that you get to the stage where yuo wanna mate no matter what. Maybe that was based on personal experience (and I mean no joke or anything, just what I say: maybe), but that is highly subjective. In my (subjective too) opinion, if you get the urges so bad and your g'firend / wife is not around or willing, as a male at least you can always... well.. sort it out alone rather than getting some disease-infested wh*re just for the sake of 'making it with a woman'. I presume Leela would probably (temporarily) sort it out that way. But that's not a permanent solution (for most). I can keep going on and on stating the obvious - great.

And remember: sometimes you will meet a guy and think he is a pig, but later you may find out he has a really good body...hmmmm...


And also, it seems this thread has become pretty much devoid of people, save for the three or four that still dare post here. Also it appears that other people (e.g. Shiny that in fact created it) seem to have forgotten it  and don't visit it anymore either, and that's a shame. Or not. it is not a compulsory thread, is it.

Anywayz.

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She's beautiful. She's just being modest.

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Fry_B, I disagree that you can always help physical attractiveness.

Like I'm short, that can't be helped.
I get acne, I've tried practically every treatment I can get (except laser surgery or whatever) but they wont go away. So that can't be helped.
I can't wear make up because it gives me more pimples and that's the last thing I want.
I'm not really tanned at all because me skin just doesn't tan. It burns and then peels off and I go back to normal. And I'm not gonna wear fake tan every day so that can't be helped.

Some people just have less than perfect body parts. Like the structure of their face mightn't be that great or they might have wide feet or whatever. No one can help stuff like that.

So unless you want everyone to have plastic surgery (which I think is wrong), a lot of people can't help ugliness.

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Well no-body's perfect (I mean it, no jokes please) and there's no shame in what you look like, it's what you do and mostly your personalty that defines you as a person. Acne must be terrible for you, but I'm sure that other don't find you less attractive emotionaly? Your friends are still there and always ready to provide support, and living with any deformaty or condition shows your true character with being able to cope with what YOU consider an infliction.

Vanity is a cruel and unforgiving mistress. Not that I'd know   

Insecurity is a knida problem, back home my friend Leanne doesn' let her BF Jon look at other women incase he prefers them to her, if you've seen her you'd think she's insane, a really good looking girl worried about naked scenes in films and women in bikini's on billboards incase she loses her man? I know it's not an aesthetic thing, but emotions let lose like that could be worse than being hideously ugly.

And I kinda like short girls with personality, and acne doesn't bother me none   

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LOL yeah, you're completely right Fenix. Though physical unattractiveness can lead to lower self-esteem and such.

"And I kinda like short girls with personality, and acne doesn't bother me none"
LOL! That's very sweet of you Fenix.

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I've been repulsed by beautiful women with hateful personalities. It really is all about what's inside.

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Damn, I knew this was going to head off into physical attractiveness land...
Different people find different things attractive. Not every man fancies a tall blonde with a tan. Even tall tanned blondes get self-conscious....surely. They had better... 
It's just that personally I've never felt very attractive, probably stemming from all the other girls my age seeming to have boyfriends and myself not having anybody express any interest...but I think it also had something to do with my shyness.
As for attractiveness of the other person...I don't like to judge on looks. Never seemed right to me. I do find people can become attractive in looks the more you get to know them, or less attractive, depending on how you think of them. That's why I'll never get anywhere...nobody ever gets the chance to know me because I barely speak at social functions...or go to many in the first place.  Meh.

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Originally posted by Cyberphobia:
So unless you want everyone to have plastic surgery (which I think is wrong), a lot of people can't help ugliness.

What's wrong with plastic surgery? I've had it, and i turned out okay.