The Shipper Thread Version III-Ship Harder!

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Originally posted by Cyberphobia:
 In Aus? Monday was Pharoah To Remember and Friday was Where The Buggalos Roam. Well that was Melbourne anyway but I think it's the same all around Australia.

Many thanks. I watched most of the eps only once and some just in part. So it's like Russian roulette - sometimes they broadcast one I haven't seen - YES!  Now OF COURSE I have the DVDs, but the thrills... like when I saw Roswell and then Love & Rocket... Of crs I will go back to the DVDs over & over... and if I miss one well I watch it on the DVD - stupid things, like any fan... can't wait for Godfellas, Shiny's reference made me curious and I feel bad I have not seen it - but it's like putting off something really nice to enhance the pleasure - now what is that called  ?

So Melb you say, Cyber? Nice to meet you, Brisbane here  hot as hell these days..and sleepy from posting on PEEL.. a grown-up man - whatta shame..

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Originally posted by Shiny:
Coldangel, if "bad experiences" are no excuse for self indulgent 'weakness,' how are they sufficient excuse for outbursts of anger and sneering contempt?  I'm just askin'....

Oh, they're not. I make no excuses for my anger and sneering contempt. That's just me, and I revel in it.

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Originally posted by Shiny:
I'm not the Queen - Venus is Queen.  I've decided I'm the High Priestess, since I'm always pontificating.   

Havn't i knighted you yet? Damn, i knew i was forgetting about something.

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Originally posted by Fry_B:
So Melb you say, Cyber? Nice to meet you, Brisbane here    hot as hell these days..and sleepy from posting on PEEL.. a grown-up man - whatta shame...

Heya, are you guys on drought there? We are, even though it rains heaps.

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You aussies keep your possums out of NZ!  Or least til I'm gone anyways...

I have a question about Nibbler, in the "Why of Fry" Nibbler promises Fry that he'd help him win Leela over, besides giving Fry the flower at the end of the episode, I have yet to see him do anything to help Fry.  So did Nibbler knowingly erased Fry's memory so he wouldn't have to help him? (besides keeping his identity secret of course)

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Originally posted by Apple Tea:
You aussies keep your possums out of NZ!  Or least til I'm gone anyways...

I have a question about Nibbler, in the "Why of Fry" Nibbler promises Fry that he'd help him win Leela over, besides giving Fry the flower at the end of the episode, I have yet to see him do anything to help Fry.  So did Nibbler knowingly erased Fry's memory so he wouldn't have to help him? (besides keeping his identity secret of course)

Don't forget that Leela did agree to go out with Fry at the end of The Farnsworth Parabox, so it could be seen as Nibbler having an influence in some way. We can assume it wasn't that cracking a date as there was no reference to it, but at least she went. I'm thinking the writers had thought they had another few seasons in order to show Nibbler get Leela and Fry closer. Hopefully we'll see more of that in the new episodes, as well as the mystery of Leela being the "other." I think Nibbler geneuinely intends to help Fry whether Fry is aware or not, as Leela seems to be meant for Fry, in more ways than one.

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Yeah, Nibbles doesn't seem the lying type.

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Originally posted by Fry_B:
 
... can't wait for Godfellas, Shiny's reference made me curious and I feel bad I have not seen it - but it's like putting off something really nice to enhance the pleasure - now what is that called      ?

(yes I quote myself    )

GODFELLAS was on today. Awesome. Well that's probably the last episode (oh no there's still Bend Her)- so from now on, we can talk about anything    What was that? If you do things right, people will never know you did anything at all Thanks Big Guy..
I'm not religious but sometimes I wonder..

[@ColdAngel] Nice Avatar Dude. Angry, Fry-like...BTW was ColdAngel taken or you chose CA_1 just out of sheer lust   

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Originally posted by Cyberphobia:
 Heya, are you guys on drought there? We are, even though it rains heaps.

Yes. When you ignore the Signs and treat Mother Nature with contempt (our little 'friend' Johnny)... I live differently on my own land, so I have all the water I need, but that's another story and (sigh, realising) it's out of topic... but thanks for asking... should we melt all the robotz ?

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The name coldangel_1 is one I have used for nigh on a decade now in various forums. I don't remember where the '1' came from, but it's become a permenant fixture.

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Oooh that's like me, I've been known as Cyberphobia on the internet since I was like 12 or something. So like 5 years now.

I really like Godfellas. LOL 'God' was so funny!

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That is how I imagine a real God to be like.

Leela was very sympathetic to Fry in that episode. And she went along way to humour him in his grief.

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I love Godfellas, for all those reasons...(and for Fry's determined optimism  )...Leela, Fry, and Bender are all absolutely adorable in this episode.

The line When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all is really a multi-layered sort of statement, and kind of a litmus test for...I dunno, for something.  Some people think it's just a joke or a cop-out, but others see profound meaning in it.  I'm of the latter variety; in my experience, the Divine in the Universe does seem to work that way.  It reminds me of a line from an episode of The Sentinel, spoken by a homeless man claiming to be an angel (who's just taken a bullet meant for someone else): "You know the hardest part about working a miracle?"  "No, what?" "Making it look...like an accident." 

I love how God communicates with Bender in his own language:You have to use a light touch like a safecracker or a pickpocket...if you make it look like an electrical thing...  I also think this is a good image for God (I think the thing about there being too many people praying so you "tune it out" was just one of Nebula!God's ways of keeping Bender from "getting dependent"... )

And also, the monks were hilarious.    And so were Bender's 'worshippers.'  There really wasn't any bad in this episode at all. 

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I'd probably have enjoyed your post a lot more if I believed in God, but even so... yes, true, great episode. One of the better of the entire series, which is saying a lot.

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Yes that episode was done quite well, since theology is quite a touchy subject for many people.  I wonder if the nibblonians know about that nebula.

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That phrase "When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all" makes me feel it's significant and relates to the real world somehow... but I can't really work out how it relates to the real world.

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Originally posted by Cyberphobia:
That phrase "When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all" makes me feel it's significant and relates to the real world somehow... but I can't really work out how it relates to the real world.

Perhaps in that some people do things secretly, so it is done but nobody knows you did it...like politicians....but everybody hates them...

Alright people, here’s how it is…

Last night I watched The Devil’s Hands Are Idle Playthings for the first time ever.

That ending was so sweet. I could live with that as an ending to the show.
I was annoyed at Leela when she started paying more affectionate attention to Fry when he had the devil’s hands, but then because she stayed back when he didn’t, that made it alright. 

How could anybody not think they would get together after that ending? Sure, it leaves that window, but why bother to think otherwise? To be difficult? I'll show you difficult! *shakes fist*

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Awwww, I knew you'd like that. That's why I didn't tell you all about it beforehand and spoil it like I usually do with things.

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That's the only ep I haven't seen yet!

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Well what are you waiting for? A written invitation? It's in the mail.

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Originally posted by Cyberphobia:
That phrase "When you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all" makes me feel it's significant and relates to the real world somehow... but I can't really work out how it relates to the real world.

Totally agree with you there, and I think somehow it was meant to be significant. People rarely notice when things are going right for them, but are quick to complain when everything's going wrong. This can be seen in many ways, whether you believe in God or not.

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Originally posted by Stezzy:
 Totally agree with you there, and I think somehow it was meant to be significant. People rarely notice when things are going right for them, but are quick to complain when everything's going wrong. This can be seen in many ways, whether you believe in God or not.

It has a religious connotation most liklely - I believe the intended audience (US) is more religious than others (am I not sure though). Of course, as you said Stezzy, it has significance whether you're religious or not.  I believe however that humans are not programmed that selfless (yes you may do something good so and do it so that no-one can tell you did it, but commonly applies to the bad things - maybe it's just me?  )

Being a tad sarcastic here if you haven't noticed (well duh).

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Originally posted by any1else:

Last night I watched The Devil’s Hands Are Idle Playthings for the first time ever.

That ending was so sweet. I could live with that as an ending to the show.
...snip,....
How could anybody not think they would get together after that ending? Sure, it leaves that window, but why bother to think otherwise? To be difficult? I'll show you difficult! *shakes fist*

That ep made me find look for answers and find / join PEEL after finding Shiny's What Might have Happened Next. Why was I looking for 'what might have heppened next'? Well, some of us are built like this, they want Closure! Yes the suggestion of them getting together HITS you in the face at the end, but for some another 10-20 secs and a kiss would have meant a lot more. Like ColdAngel would say, it was too (desperate and) reality-like an ending, damnit.

Anyway... the new eps are coming... BRING THEM TOGETHER IN THE FIRST NEW EPISODE! Why ? Because I say so (damn, everything tasted like ColdAngel again for a tick  )

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I think the cast and crew were hoping that Futurama would be brought back eventually so they left F/L open to be on the safe side. Otherwise if they gave it too much closure they would lose a lot shippy viwers! From what I've heard Billy West and David Cohen both suspected Futurama would make a comeback at some point, and it has!!   

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Originally posted by Fry_B:
 Well, some of us are built like this, they want Closure! Yes the suggestion of them getting together HITS you in the face at the end, but for some another 10-20 secs and a kiss would have meant a lot more. Like ColdAngel would say, it was too (desperate and) reality-like an ending, damnit.

Yeah, I have a friend who hates things that 'don't end'. But I always feel they have ended. Obviously my perspective on things is a lot different. I don't like things filled in completely. I always did enjoy colouring in.

But I'm not ging to complain about new episodes. 

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Originally posted by any1else:
 Yeah, I have a friend who hates things that 'don't end'. But I always feel they have ended. 

They have not even kissed properly for God's sake !! (Well they have, and had sex as well, but they don't remember it!)

No one seems to care much about Fry & Leela, only about their own feelings and the  number of shippy viewers that may be lost - BTW, how & why that would happen, beats me. I keep saying that a relationship or marriage has as many unkowns as chasing some one-eyed chick that gives you the flick and you try again, and again... not funny, not getting anywhere...

Poor Fry & leela... cartoon characters. they must be devastated, kept apart to boost viewer numbers.. Sorry if I sounded harsh (oh, harsh!).

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Originally posted by coldangel_1:
Well what are you waiting for? A written invitation? It's in the mail.

Well I don't have money to buy the season on DVD yet and it hasn't been shown on Channel 10 yet either so I'm still waiting.

 

Originally posted by Fry_B:
(damn, everything tasted like ColdAngel again for a tick  )

ROFL that was a bit random LMAO

 

Originally posted by Fry_B:
They have not even kissed properly for God's sake !! (Well they have, and had sex as well, but they don't remember it!)

They've had sex? What episode was that? They were gonna have sex in Parasites Lost but I don't recall them actually ever having sex. Well actually they did in Anthology of Interest I but that wasn't real. That was 'what if?'

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Originally posted by Fry_B:
   They have not even kissed properly for God's sake !! (Well they have, and had sex as well, but they don't remember it!)

Well I don't want to force them to.  At least in our own imginations we can have them end up however we want them to end up. What if they got together and it was in a way that annoyed the hell out of you? Then there'd be something else to think about...

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They'd most likely have had sex some time before they were married in TKOS, because Leela doesn't strike me as the 'no sex before marriage' type... mainly because she's had lots of sex and never been married.

Fry-B... you're doing altogether too much tasting of me for a heterosexual male to be completely comfortable with 

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Originally posted by Stezzy:
  Don't forget that Leela did agree to go out with Fry at the end of The Farnsworth Parabox, so it could be seen as Nibbler having an influence in some way. We can assume it wasn't that cracking a date as there was no reference to it, but at least she went. I'm thinking the writers had thought they had another few seasons in order to show Nibbler get Leela and Fry closer. Hopefully we'll see more of that in the new episodes, as well as the mystery of Leela being the "other." I think Nibbler geneuinely intends to help Fry whether Fry is aware or not, as Leela seems to be meant for Fry, in more ways than one.

Question with the Farnsworth Parabox. If leela went out with Fry, does that mean parallel Leela made up an excuse?

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Oh yeah I suppose probably in TKOS. Though I always thought it was like special that Leela and Fry have sex with all these people that are wrong for them at a drop of a hat but even though there is so much unresolved sexual tension between them, they never sleep with each other which would make it like the first time they sleep together would be when they actually are in love and dating or whatever and therefore it would be more special that time.

If that makes sense.

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Originally posted by Freela:
 Question with the Farnsworth Parabox. If leela went out with Fry, does that mean parallel Leela made up an excuse?

Nah because they are only differant when they flip a coin so because Leela didn't look at the coin and just said it was yes, the other Leela didn't look either so they both said yes. But it's kinda irrelavent for the other Leela because she's already married to Fry.

I just thought of something: Leela says yes to going out with Fry at the end of that episode but maybe we never see the date because soon after she changes her mind and says no because Fry sat on the universe box and made the whole universe squished. But we just don't see her changing her mind.

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Or they went on the date before he sat on the box. I guess we’ll never know…

Now, on the subject of the Farnsworth Parabox, when I watched it the other night I noticed something I hadn’t noticed before (although perhaps it has been brought up when I wasn't paying attention..).

“Whatever is in there, it’s the only thing I’ve ever wanted!”
Appropriate, no?

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Yes. A meaningful longterm relationship with Leela was in the box. Only it was the OTHER Fry who was having it. Oh cruel irony!

As for the date... I'm sure they went on it, but that doesn't necessarily mean they would KEEP going on dates on a regular basis. We know they have an odd nebulous kind of relationship that ebbs and flows in different ways, and both of them are aware of that. They seem to be going out in 300 Big Boys. For all we know they could have been going out between episodes all the way from TKOS to the end of the show. Leela might just go along with it as an evening with a friend, and let Fry call it a date if he wants to.

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Peh, what's a date anyway?
There was some chick on the radio the other morning complaining that now she was living with her boyfriend he never took her out anywhere.

Okay, the point of a relationship (I gather) is something to do with feelings towards each other which generally accumulate over the time spent in each other's company.

Why would, this goes for Fry and Leela and everybody else in the world, you need to specify an outing to try to impress/enjoy another's company? In the case of Fry and Leela, they're always spending time with each other, that's why Fry had developed his feeling for Leela and why Leela has developed what feelings she might have for him. Why do they need a date to signify anything? So that at the end of the night they can go for the kiss goodnight and see if they go further? They can do that any time. Right 

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Exactly! Every workday is as good as a date for them. Or as bad as a date... depending on one's perspective on dating and the workday in question.

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Ummm well when you're dating someone, you're supposed to have feelings for each other and if one or both of them don't have the feelings, they're not dating. And it sorta has to be known by both people that the other has feelings for them. And then if that all fits, you're like automatically dating. Which is differant to Leela and Fry's situation because Leela doesn't express any feelings for Fry so they can't be dating.

I'm not sure if I make sense. I don't think I even answered the question properly... or at all.

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I understand what you’re saying, I just don’t get the whole point of it. Even when people are ‘dating’ they don’t necessarily have feelings for each other. It’s the same with marriage. People still end up cheating on each other or not feeling the same way. Why do people have to classify themselves as things when they don’t even live by the standard they’re supposedly setting for themselves by having that title in the first place? Why not go titlelss and live honestly with the "I like you/I dont like you" setting the starndard, rather than some...word...telling what you should be?

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Originally posted by coldangel_1:
Futurama's kinda supposed to be like how people in the 1960's thought the future would be. It's already laughable by our standards. It's 'retro-sci-fi'. The spaceships look like things out of buck rogers.

If anybody cares, the term is, “retro-futuristic,” or, “retro-futurism.”
BTW, nice sig: At first glance it appears to be a katana, but it’s too long, and doesn’t appear to be curved.

Originally posted by Freela:
Question with the Farnsworth Parabox. If leela went out with Fry, does that mean parallel Leela made up an excuse?

No. Parallel Leela accepted, and this eventually led to marriage.

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Originally posted by coldangel_1:


Fry-B... you're doing altogether too much tasting of me for a heterosexual male to be completely comfortable with   

Are you worried  I don't hear a no...

Seriously, it's not sexual - hehe