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coldangel

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« #400 : 10-26-2006 07:03 »

Light must be virtually instantaneous in the Futurama Universe. But if the commentary is correct about old light and new light then they'd be seeing the cosmos in double-vision, old and new, with 'updated' images of stars overlapping the older lagging images. That would make the night sky very confusing indeed.

I'm being a pedantic shit. Feel free to remind me it's a cartoon, knock me to the ground, and jump on my head.
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« #401 : 10-26-2006 07:31 »

 
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Posted By coldangel_1I'm being a pedantic shit. Feel free to remind me it's a cartoon, knock me to the ground, and jump on my head.

Not at all.  Like I said, it's fun trying to reconcile the world of Futurama with our basic laws of physics.

 
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Posted By coldangel_1Light must be virtually instantaneous in the Futurama Universe.

Yeah, I've come to the same conclusion.  Since the PE ship can't travel faster than light, light must be moving pretty fast if they can get to the edge of the universe and back within a week (see The Route of All Evil).  Lightspeed must have been increased exponentially by billions upon billions of magnitudes.
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« #402 : 10-26-2006 07:42 »

So if someone lights their fart on the other side of the galaxy you can see it in real time.
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« #403 : 10-26-2006 08:05 »

How is this shippy, just out of interest, seeing as we've come to the conclusion already that Leela won't be able to see the note.
Just asking.
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« #404 : 10-26-2006 08:30 »

I'm reminded of all the times my mother used to scold me for being a scientist at the dinner table.

Okay... shippy, eh?

Would Leela have helped Fry find his seven-leafed clover if she didn't love him? Of course not - it's a silly idea. She's too sensible to go in for something as stupid as that, yet she trekked around in the underground ruins with him, and then went into orbit to defile a grave, because it was important to him.
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« #405 : 10-26-2006 08:35 »

I apologize for carrying on a coversation with coldangel_1.

Actually, I am sorry for going a bit offtopic there.  I was originally just pointing something out that I thought everyone already knew, but they didn't already know and then it just spiraled out of control from there.
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« #406 : 10-26-2006 08:42 »

One thing led to another... there was algebra involved... you know, quantum mechanics has made fools of us all. Now we're just embarassed. Can we pretend like it never happened?
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« #407 : 10-26-2006 08:44 »

Thats okay, I'm not a  mod so its not really my business, I just prefer to hear of shippy things.
Tim B

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« #408 : 10-26-2006 08:47 »
« : 10-26-2006 08:47 »

Here's a thread about the physics in futurama, if anyone is interested in carrying on the conversation elsewhere.  This way we won't pontentially gunk up the shippy thread.    :)

 http://www.peelified.com/cgi-bin/Futurama/1-004502/#t12
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« #409 : 10-26-2006 09:10 »

What do you think Leela's parents think of Fry, and would they encourage her to go out with him? I reckon they like him; they seem like fun people, and Fry did help them reunite with their daughter. Plus they had the note that Fry wrote to leela expressing his feelings up among the stuff they'd collected of her. And Morris seemed pretty friendly to teen-Fry in TMLH. Added to which, they've been watching Leela's life from below and have probably seen one or two of the nice things Fry's done for her. If they're like any other parents in the Universe they'll feel it's their duty to meddle a bit.
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« #410 : 10-26-2006 09:44 »

I think...That Leela's parents would encourage her to go out with Fry...Because they must have relised, even if Leela hasn't...That he cares for her.
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« #411 : 10-26-2006 11:39 »

 
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Originally posted by Bending Unit 99:
... and yay i finally know what "shippy" means
SEE?
Y'learned something.
Quit'cher gripin'!
 ;)
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Originally posted by coldangel_1:
... I only got it 'cause my old one died. I was planning to upgrade *eventually*, but not at this time...
Sadly, I know the drill. [*shrug*]  :hmpf:
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Originally posted by coldangel_1:
...All I can do to try to recoup is cannibalize components from the old one and try to flog them on eBay.
And you call yourself a communist? I hope you at least have the good grace to feel ashamed.  ;)
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... Anyone want a hard drive? It's full of porn.
Pass.
Although Ralph might be interested,  :D
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Originally posted by coldangel_1:
... I'm just happy I was able to get my new one on the same day my old one died. This is one of the rare instances where capitalism actually worked for the betterment of someone, but just don't tell my buddies in the Communist Party I said that 'cause they'd kick me out.
Ha! And for good cause!  ;)
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... Watched Luck of the Fryish today. It's not really a shippy ep I know, but I did notice a few things.
At the racetrack, although she rolls her eye as a force of habit, Leela doesn't hesistat to give Fry a kiss for good luck.
Justified, I’m sure, as the less undesirable of two alternatives.
Justified in Leela's mind, that is...
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Originally posted by coldangel_1:
... She also seems to jump at the chance to help him find his clover when he asks her, the enthusiasm to go clambering around in the ruins of Old New York looking for something a sensible person like her would consider to be a silly superstitious piece of junk would be uncharacteristic if she didn't feel close to Fry.
Again justified on the grounds that Fry will do it regardless, so she needs to be there to keep him out of trouble save his @$$.
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... Also, she was very sensitive at the end in giving him a moment alone at the gravesite.
I think she would’ve done that for any friend in like circumstances.
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Originally posted by jle1993:
In plain english everyday language, can someone please explain want the hell you're on about and if she'll be able to see the message or not, be for I blow up from overload
The reason the PE ship can travel between galaxies so quickly is that the speed of light in Futurama has been made faster – trillions of times faster - than what science says it is now.
The PE ship can fly 99% the ‘new’ speed of light, not faster, so they wouldn’t be able to beat the starlight from Fry’s message back to Earth with any time left to see it.
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*Hears ticking*
Too Late
*explodes*
Eww. Ick.
[*SpaceCase wipes eye*]
Give a body some WARNING!
Aw geeze! I just had this outfit dry-cleaned!  ;)
jle1993

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« #412 : 10-26-2006 12:12 »

*reassembles*
Thanks for the explanation Spacey, I think I understand now
SpaceCase

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« #413 : 10-26-2006 12:28 »

 
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Originally posted by jle1993:
*reassembles*
Thanks for the explanation Spacey, I think I understand now
No problem. Anything else you need explained? Er, about the Futurama universe, that is?
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What do you think Leela's parents think of Fry, and would they encourage her to go out with him? I reckon they like him...
"LIKE" him? Were I in Morris’ or Munda’s place, ANYBODY who took a space-bee stinger for my only daughter, would go right to the top of my list.
The ah, the good list that is.  ;)
jle1993

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« #414 : 10-26-2006 12:29 »

They love him, they think he's a good boy who'ed look after their little girl.
SpaceCase

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« #415 : 10-26-2006 12:59 »

 
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Originally posted by jle1993:
They love him, they think he's a good boy who'ed look after their little girl.
In other words, where Morris and Munda are concerned, Fry is LIGHT-YEARS ahead of the nearest competitor.

Leela, on the other hand... Leela will take a boatload more convincing.

jle1993

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« #416 : 10-26-2006 13:11 »

Leela: MUM, DAD, will you please stop going on about Fry!
Munda: But he's such a lovely boy Leela
Morris: He did save your life dear.
Leela: But he's a slob and irrisponsible and he's dumb and immature!
Munda: Your father was just like that, except he didn't throw himself infront of a space bee for me.
Morris: And I like him, he'd take care of you.
Leela: I do not need taking care of!
Munda: Everyone needs somebody Leela, he does love you.
Morris: It was all in the letter from him you flushed down the toilet.
Leela: YOU READ MY MAIL!
Morris: You flushed it, what was I suppose to do, ignore it?
Leela: YES
Munda: All we're saying is he's a nice boy and you should give him a chance. As much as I love you, you have your faults too Leela, he's already seen past them.
Leela: I wil not, I do not, he has not.
Morris: See, you're stubborn, just like your mother. You also are highly strung, again like your mother.
Munda: That'll do Morris. Leela, we love you, and we only want whats best for you. If you can't look past his faults, than help him change.
Leela: He wouldn't accept my help.
Munda: He would if you offered it. Give it ago, for me...
Leela: AHHHHH, Fine, I'll help Fry and if he improves then I might give him a chance! Happy?!
Munda: Very, now off you pop dear, Fry isn't going to improve on his own.
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« #417 : 10-26-2006 13:41 »

My take on Leela's parents opinion on Fry:

Excerpts taken from my fic, which i desperately need to update.


Excerpt #1
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“So…” Morris started, “You and my daughter…complicated relationship?”

Fry nodded. “I’m tryin’, but it’s hard. I’m not always so smart. I don’t always do the right things. And sometimes Leela gets mad at me for it. I think she wants someone smart like she is.”

“Keep working on it, she’ll come around.” The older man encouraged. “There’s more important things than being an intellectual. Munda didn’t exactly fall into my arms the day I met her. I had to chase her around for a while.”

Fry brightened somewhat, hopeful that with Leela’s parents on his side, putting in a good word for him, Leela’s perception of him as possible boyfriend material might change.

“So you’re okay with Leela being with someone like me?”

“As much as the thought of some man putting his hands on my little girl makes my skin crawl, it is what she wants. And I’d much rather see her with someone like you, who loves and wants to protect her, than with someone who just wants to exploit her. Like that Brannigan bastard.”

“You saw his webpage I take it?”

Morris growled with contempt. “Worse. I saw the pop-up ad.”

“But you,” Morris continued, suddenly throwing his arm around Fry’s shoulder and drawing the startled man up close. “You wouldn’t do anything like that to my baby. Because I know where you work. I can find out where you live. And I can make it look like an accident.” Just as suddenly as Morris had grabbed Fry he let him go. Incredibly intimidated Fry edged away.

Once again relaxed and cheerful Morris gave Fry a friendly pat on the shoulder. “Basically, don’t hurt my kitten’s feelings and we’ll get along just fine.”

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Excerpt #2

“So, Leela,” Munda started now that she knew her daughter was still awake. “What’s going on between you and Philip? He seems like such a nice man. And so devoted.”

Mood effectively blown to pieces, Leela’s eye snapped open. “Don’t you think that’s getting a little personal?”

“I don’t mean to pry, honey,” Munda responded seeming chastened. “But it seems I made a faux pas at dinner tonight and I wouldn’t want to embarrass you like that again. You talk about him all the time, and you’ve never mentioned there being anyone else, I just assumed that…”

Leela shifted onto her back, making it easier for her to see her mother.

“Long story short. He loves me, I don’t love him. At least, not in the way he wants me to.”

Munda looked disappointed. “But he’s such a sweet boy.”

“I like him.” Morris chimed in.

“Dad! You’re not helping!” Leela tilted her head back and glared at him.

“What? Any guy willing to throw himself between you and oncoming death gets my automatic approval. I can’t help it. It’s a dad thing.”

Leela sighed. “I’m not saying he’s not a nice guy. He’s a very nice guy. But he’s also very immature, reckless, uneducated, unambitious, and often oblivious to the feelings of those around him.”

“Maybe all he needs is a little incentive and someone willing to give him a chance.” Morris offered.

Leela ignored him and continued: “And I’ve yet to see him in a relationship that wasn’t all about sex.”

“Does he throw himself in front of space-bees for those girls too?” Munda asked pointedly.

Leela sat up, annoyance clear on her face. “Okay. This conversation is officially over. I’m going to bed.” She gathered her blanket up as she stood, so as to not trip herself and huffed up the stairs in a wave of indignation.

Munda looked a little hurt, but Morris couldn’t help but laugh.

“Ten bucks says they’re together within a year.”

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In short, i think they like him.

jle1993

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« #418 : 10-26-2006 14:00 »

I think you're right. When are you updating you're story by the way.
Venus

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« #419 : 10-26-2006 14:33 »

Right now.
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« #420 : 10-26-2006 17:35 »

well if i was Leela's parents i'd be angry at her for not taking a chance when it was hitting her in the face
KitKatBar-Fry

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« #421 : 10-26-2006 17:52 »

Very nice, Venus. I'd probably think that way too if I were a parent. *shudder*
I mean, c'mon. That guy just saved their little darling's life---what could be a better first impression? Plus, he apperently has already taken a liking to Leela. Love the 10 bucks idea, it adds a bit of humor to the already incredibly shippy conversation.
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« #422 : 10-26-2006 18:02 »

Yay Morris and Munda!



Shippy pic!
Bending Unit 99

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« #423 : 10-26-2006 18:33 »

hey i remember that pic, i always liked it, although when i first saw it it looked weird
Xanfor

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« #424 : 10-26-2006 19:21 »

I think it's beautiful.  :love:

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« #425 : 10-26-2006 19:44 »
« : 10-26-2006 19:44 »

   
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Originally posted by coldangel_1:
Would Leela have helped Fry find his seven-leafed clover if she didn't love him? Of course not - it's a silly idea. She's too sensible to go in for something as stupid as that, yet she trekked around in the underground ruins with him, and then went into orbit to defile a grave, because it was important to him.

I actually have a different theory about why she went with him (to Orbiting Meadows, at least) that has less to do with shipperdom and more to do with sympathy for him and her own insecurities*, but there's virtually no backing for my thoughts in canon, so.... yeah.     :p

(* Also a potential short!fic idea.  I miss writing.)
coldangel

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« #426 : 10-26-2006 21:14 »

Great postulation and literature, peoples.

In addition, Morris and Munda would likely have a soft spot for young Fry after he stopped Leela from shooting them.
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« #427 : 10-26-2006 21:40 »
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i'd say...
thinking about how Leela seems to take Fry for granted makes me extrem... slightly angry, makes me want to stab someone

angry...
coldangel

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« #428 : 10-26-2006 21:47 »

Yes well... every man can relate to that...
The chick I'm stalking never acknowledges any of the sweet things I do for/to her.
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« #429 : 10-26-2006 22:14 »

She doesn't take him for granted -- that means not feeling proper gratitude for what you're getting.  But Leela doesn't want what she's getting.

(Yet.  ;) )
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« #430 : 10-26-2006 23:26 »

Yes, I agree with Shiny, Leela never asked Fry to do those things, she probably wants more independence than what shes getting from Fry
coldangel

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« #431 : 10-27-2006 02:43 »

Haha... the *Starship Captain* wants independence.
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« #432 : 10-27-2006 04:38 »

Also, making sure she exepts none of what Fry does is a way of keeping herself safe. If he goes around proving his love for her, then maybe, little by little, she will start to love him to. That probably makes her feel insecure(what with all the failed boyfriends)and will resent his attempts instead of appreciating them. But once she learns that Fry would never, ever do something to hurt her, well....who knows.
coldangel

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« #433 : 10-27-2006 05:12 »

She just gets a kick out of stringing him along. I know the type. It's a power thing.
jle1993

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« #434 : 10-27-2006 05:39 »

I don't think so Coldangel, Leela is just insecure when it comes to relationships
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« #435 : 10-27-2006 05:39 »

ok then when is she gonna get bored and say "oh what the hell"
coldangel

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« #436 : 10-27-2006 05:56 »

Or when is she gonna get horny and say "I need a shag"?
jle1993

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« #437 : 10-27-2006 06:17 »

You discust me Coldangel, Leela is just insecure, she's confused. You should be ashamed.
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« #438 : 10-27-2006 06:36 »

TOO INSECURE!!
you know what she needs? a gun, then she can go out with Fry because she is secure then, she can't say she isn't
jle1993

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« #439 : 10-27-2006 07:21 »

She emotionaly insecure you idiot. Just because she can beat the crap out of people doesn't mean she's not delicate inside. And if anyone you make a lewd comment on the last bit I'll kill you.
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