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Xanfor

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« #40 : 05-22-2006 18:51 »
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Ok, then I get your point. I was just testing you there.
However, I didn't choose the name because of accuracy. I choose it because whithin the 'Futurama' fan community, Xanfor is most commonly associated with the guy on my avatar.

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« #41 : 05-25-2006 06:57 »

  :mad:   :mad:   :mad: If you need me i'll be in the angry dome
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« #42 : 05-25-2006 06:59 »

Hey, I had dibs on that!

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« #43 : 05-25-2006 13:36 »

It sounded like "Zanthor" to me, too (or "Xanthor," the "X" sounds the same and makes it cooler  ;) )...but many other PEELers (and folks on other forums) have "personalized" a character name by varying the spelling, so I don't see why you can't, too.

Maybe you heard it with a Cockney accent...  :laff:
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« #44 : 05-25-2006 13:39 »

Ha, ha.   :rolleyes:
Well, I thought maybe DXC had a hand in it. You know, he legally changed his middle name to X.
Thanks for your agreement!

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« #45 : 05-25-2006 23:13 »

Still sounds like a pretty kool name.
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« #46 : 05-26-2006 08:16 »
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Thank you, Fry Man, and congrats on being a delivery boy Bending unit!

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« #47 : 06-08-2006 21:13 »

If we do want to check what would be the "accurate" spelling of the name, would anyone be able to put subtitles on their dvd? I think that that might solve totalnerduk's dilema.

As for Katrina, well she seems to be your standed fairy tutu and wand. No idea who she is.
 
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« #48 : 06-09-2006 14:28 »

Wikipedia might be able to help you...
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« #49 : 06-09-2006 14:56 »

 
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Originally posted by Professor Zoidy:
Wikipedia might be able to help you...

I don't see how.

A Wikipedia search for "Zanthor" only turns up this result.  Other spellings of the name turn up no results.  The entry for Futurama doesn't seem to mention him at all.

Wikipedia entries are fan created anyway, so it wouldn't be any more reliable a source than PEEL in any case.
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« #50 : 06-09-2006 15:49 »

 
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Originally posted by Turanga, A:
If we do want to check what would be the "accurate" spelling of the name, would anyone be able to put subtitles on their dvd? I think that that might solve totalnerduk's dilema.

It's not my dilemma. I know what I'm talking about. It's not even a dilemma, since a dilemma is a choice with two unfavourable outcomes. Go watch the episode on DVD. Listen to the name. There's a th sound in it, meaning that the spelling is either Zanthor or Xanthor, but can't be
  • Xanfor,
  • Zanfor,
  • Xanphor or
  • Zanphor,
    because all of these have a ph or f sound, which is not[/u] what the Professor says.

    If I have to make a screen grab of the fucking subtitles to prove it to you, then I will. However, if I have to do this, then I ought invoice you for my time. Therefore, should you require me to post the screen grab, I will require you to wire me 75.00 in GBP. If you would like instructions on how to do this, then please email me, and I will let you know. Then, once I have the money in my bank account, I will post the screen grab. Following this, you will shut the hell up, having been thoroughly owned.

    Or, you could take the cheaper option. You could pay me nothing, and just take my word for it. Your choice.
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« #51 : 06-09-2006 17:44 »

It would prove nothing, TNUK.  Subtitles are notoriouslly unreliable.

I think it sounds like a "th" too, but is it really important enough to get all worked up over?  It's not like finding out will feed the world's hungry or put an end to genocide. 

We could find a script, or write DXC and ask, but to me finding out would simply satisfy my intellectual curiosity.  Whether he's "Xanfor" or "Xanthor," he's still a pretty neat guy to have on the forum, and is that not what really matters in the end?
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« #52 : 06-09-2006 18:17 »

 
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Originally posted by Shiny:
I think it sounds like a "th" too, but is it really important enough to get all worked up over?  It's not like finding out will feed the world's hungry or put an end to genocide. 

Well we never know until we try. It's because of people like you that there's still hunger and genocide in the world. You should be ashamed.

Oh, and it is Xanthor. I don't know how people got the "f" sound out of that, but whatever. I think he's the Planet Express philosopher. It's a useless job, so we never see him. He spends most of his time reading or on his PC playing Quake CCLXIV.
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« #53 : 06-09-2006 22:30 »

Funny, he looked more like an Elder Scrolls VII fan to me.
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« #54 : 06-10-2006 11:43 »

Hmm... A 'Xanfilosopher'... Hee hee hee...

Does anyone know DXC's address? It's probably somethig like 'David X Cohen, c/o F*X,'... etc.

Anyway, whoever made some of those transcripts on the internet out there messed me up. I trusted them that I made a mistake in my hearing, and they turned their backs on me. Eh, oh well. I'm happy. We're all happy.  ;)

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« #55 : 06-10-2006 13:16 »

hmm...I think he gave his email on a commentary (Where the Buggalo Roam) as davidxcohen@aol.com.

A Mac fan and an AOL user.  Crazy fine-art nerds.
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« #56 : 06-10-2006 13:37 »

You'd think anyone smart enough to avoid wintel would be smart enough to not use AOL.
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« #57 : 06-10-2006 15:30 »

 
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Originally posted by Xanfor:Anyway, whoever made some of those transcripts on the internet out there messed me up. I trusted them that I made a mistake in my hearing, and they turned their backs on me.

I'm tellin' ya, just say it with a Cockney accent, and it's spelled just fine.  ;)

 
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Eh, oh well. I'm happy. We're all happy.   ;)

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« #58 : 06-11-2006 07:37 »

The optimist believes that this is the best of all possible worlds, and the pessimist fears this is true.

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« #59 : 06-11-2006 17:34 »

I Thought it was "Xanthor"
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« #60 : 06-11-2006 17:35 »

Hey, what about Xan4?

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« #61 : 06-12-2006 18:05 »

I kinda like Xan4...you just make that up?  It's cute.
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« #62 : 06-12-2006 18:16 »

I could do a 'Hitchhiker's' reference should I lose my password and change my e-mail. I could be 'Xan42'.  :laff:

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« #63 : 06-12-2006 18:23 »

Nerd-o: He gave his e-mail on the Roswell commentary.

I always thought it was Xanfor. It sounds better, to me, when you say it.
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« #64 : 06-12-2006 18:33 »
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Say, i_c_wiener, is your name pronounced 'I period C period Weiner', 'Icy weiner', or 'I see weiner'?   ;)

I am Xan42! Hee hee! I am never going to be able to get over that! Hee hee...

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« #65 : 06-12-2006 20:20 »

Xan42: Both "icy weiner" and "I see weiner" are both accepted pronounciations. Pretty much however you feel like pronouncing it.
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« #66 : 06-15-2006 12:37 »

What about scruffy and katrina?
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« #67 : 06-15-2006 17:21 »

 
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Originally posted by i_c_weiner:
Both "icy weiner" and "I see weiner" are both accepted pronounciations. Pretty much however you feel like pronouncing it.

But the other part is always pronounced like "whiner" not "weener".  It would have to be spelled "wiener" otherwise.
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« #68 : 06-15-2006 19:48 »
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Originally posted by Pedro La Loco:
What about scruffy and katrina?


For Scuffy, check here. For Katrina, keep looking at this thread. It's about her as well.

Shiny

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« #69 : 06-15-2006 23:05 »

 
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Originally posted by David A:
 But the other part is always pronounced like "whiner" not "weener".  It would have to be spelled "wiener" otherwise.

Only to people with European educations.  To us folks Stateside, it can be pronounced either way (which we pronouce "eether" most of the time).
 

Ee-ther, Eye-ther,
Nee-ther, Nigh-ther...
Potay-toe, potah-toe,
Tomay-toe, tomah-toe,
Let's call the whole thing something from the class we missed that day because we snuck off to the library to get online and talk about a science fiction action comedy drama cartoon.

  ;)
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« #70 : 06-16-2006 00:54 »

 
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Originally posted by Shiny:
 Only to people with European educations.

Funny, I didn't realize that I had one of those.

 
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To us folks Stateside, it can be pronounced either way (which we pronouce "eether" most of the time).

It can be pronounced either way, but only one way is correct.
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« #71 : 06-16-2006 06:03 »

I believe 'either' can be pronounced two ways: 'ee-ther' or 'eye-ther'. Much how 'the' is pronounced with a long 'e' before a vowel and a short 'e' before a consonant.

David A

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« #72 : 06-16-2006 15:01 »

We're not talking about how the word "either" is pronounced.  We're talking about how i_c_weiner's misspelled username is pronounced.
Shiny

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« #73 : 06-16-2006 16:46 »
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But "either" and "neither" have the same vowel dichotomy as "weiner."  That is, their old English pronunciation was, in fact, "ee."  When the current English royal family was first imported from Germany, they brought their "eye" pronunciations with them, and thus "eye-ther" and "nigh-ther" became the posh way to pronounce them.  However, "eether" and "neether" are still correct. 

Thus, while "Weiner" may be correctly pronounced "whiner," the phonics of the letters suggest the "weener" pronunciation as an alternate.  Since there is, indeed, a word that is pronounced "weener," the confusion becomes even more...uh...pronounced.

You may not have been educated in Europe, but I suspect some teacher or other of yours was a strict traditionalist, to have taught you to distinguish so sharply between ie and ei, when so many words in English (especially American English) break the rules. 


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« #74 : 06-16-2006 17:17 »

Americans aren't as smart as europeans, ever heard of president bush?  ;)
David A

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« #75 : 06-16-2006 20:31 »

 
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Originally posted by Shiny:
But "either" and "neither" have the same vowel dichotomy as "weiner."  That is, their old English pronunciation was, in fact, "ee."  When the current English royal family was first imported from Germany, they brought their "eye" pronunciations with them, and thus "eye-ther" and "nigh-ther" became the posh way to pronounce them.  However, "eether" and "neether" are still correct.

Um, great.  I'm not sure how any of that is relevant, though.

"Wiener" is a German word; therefore it follows German pronunciation rules.  By transposing two of the letters, i_c_weiner has changed the pronunciation (in German) from "weener" to "whiner", thus making himself an icy whiner.

See, it's a joke about the misspelling of his username.  But hey, thanks for trying to turn it into a debate about something that I wasn't even talking about.  That never gets old.

 
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You may not have been educated in Europe, but I suspect some teacher or other of yours was a strict traditionalist, to have taught you to distinguish so sharply between ie and ei, when so many words in English (especially American English) break the rules.

You're 0 for 2.  I don't think that any English teachers ever tried to teach me the diference between how to pronounce "ei" and "ie", but if they did, I'm sure that I wouldn't have bothered to pay attention.  I don't think that there really are any rules about how to pronounce vowels in English.  If there are, there are just as many words that break the rules as follow them.  Spelling rules in English are the same way.  Plenty of words break this one: I before E, except after C, or when sounded as "ay" as in neighbor and weigh.  I guess by that rule, his username would be pronounced "icy wayner".
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« #76 : 06-16-2006 22:20 »

I usually just go with the rule, "I before E ecxept when it's not." That usually covers it.
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« #77 : 06-16-2006 23:05 »

That's certainly a more accurate way of stating it.  Doesn't rhyme, though.
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« #78 : 06-17-2006 06:54 »
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Originally posted by David A:See, it's a joke...But hey, thanks for trying to turn it into a debate about something that I wasn't even talking about. That never gets old.

You always this friendly and fun to be around, or do I just bring out the best in you?

 :flirt:
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« #79 : 06-17-2006 15:09 »

I dunno, Shiny.  You're the one who seems to want to have a debate every time I post something.  Why don't you go dig up the "What's your favorite color?" thread and try to convince me that mine is actually green?

 :p
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