Mutants in old new york?

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I think this thread is in the right place...

Anyway, why do the mutants persistantly live in the sewers when there is a perfectly good city underground, which is bigger, doesn't have waste being flushed down it 24/7 and is already nicely developed?
Why not live in Old New York?

[#1 :]

They are not allowed to surface, unless they have secial passes as is seen in LH and LTH.

[#2 :]

No I mean in Old New york as in underneath New New york? I think that thats not really the surface.

edit: Hooray I'm a Bending unit!

[#3 :]

Oh sorry for my mistake but I think that in LOTF there is one mutant in Old New York.

[#4 :]

 

Originally posted by Rhodan:
Oh sorry for my mistake but I think that in LOTF there is one mutant in Old New York.

Yeah, in the sewer.

[#5 :]

yeah but when fry is in the sewer he says somthing like "in my time this would all have been a lunch-in at the met" meaing it was somwhere in Old New York.

interesting? 

[#6 :]

they live in the sewers because thats where they get all their stuff, is from being flushed down the toilet.  There isnt anymore stuff in Old New York

[#7 :]

Well maybe they wouldn't be mutants if they didn't live around toxic waste all the time. If they lived in old new york, then later generations could live on the surface and they could get all the stuff they wanted.

[#8 :]

Maybe the Hobo's and Robo's have taken over old New York.

[#9 :]

My dvds are out in the garage so someone will correct me on the details, but in a deleted scene fo the Luck of the Fryrish, Leela's wrist-thiny reads a high amount of  some radiation or something, to which fry replys "Thats just superstition", prehaps old new york is less inhabitable than the sewers beneath it?

[#10 :]

Or possibly the property prices in old new York are too high for those cheap mutants

[#11 :]

Maybe they find Old New York creepy.

[#12 :]

There is mutant mutants in Old New York and they are too afriad of them. Amagin whet they would look like...

[#13 :]

Psshhh, thats just a sub-urban legend.

[#14 :]

Apparently tramps live in Old New York as well (LOTF).

[#15 :]

Hmm, very true, I never thought of that. In the Luck of the Fryish they showed a mutant living in the sewers of Old New York, but not actually in the city. And the city is completley abandoned, but there are all the old possesions of the people who used to live there still there...why don't the people of the sewers just go and take them? I mean, if they prize guitar strings, dead fish and dead birds, than I think entire record collections, houses and furniture, and railroad tracks, all seen in The Luck of the Fryish in Old New York, would be like a treasure to them...

[#16 :]

Yeah. Then they could use the B-train, making local stops at where ever the hell they feel like and watch for the closing doors, bing-boo. 
If I was a mutant, I'd rob the old places of Old new York! So why can't they? Or do they need a "Surface, yet is below the surface" pass that is un-obtainable since Old New York is un inhabited. I love being complicated.   

[#17 :]

Maybe they actually like living in the sewers rather than in a long-dead persons bed in a long-dead persons house. Maybe they like the sewers, they seemed to have affection for it in 'I Second that Emotion' and 'Leela's Homeworld'.

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Maybe they don't know about it?

[#19 :]

 

Originally posted by Sal:
yeah but when fry is in the sewer he says somthing like "in my time this would all have been a lunch-in at the met" meaing it was somwhere in Old New York.

interesting?   

He says what now?

[#20 :]

he says somthing to do with the fact that they are in a New New York Sewer, but in his time it was part of Old Ney York.

In Episode 201, I Second That Emotion.

[#21 :]

Oh, "All this was probably once a charity luncheon for the Met."  I think he means the feces.  Because they're in a sewer...

[#22 :]

no, Leela says they're under Park Avenue, where there is NOW a very ritzy area near the Met, as in Museum of Art

[#23 :]

Fry's not referring to his time.  The joke is that he's impressed by the ritziness of Park avenue sewage.

[#24 :]

on the commentary of i second that emotion Poor David gets painted into a corner on this topic and it is left that some parts of old new york are above the sewers and some are below. Not that that makes sense either.

[#25 :]

That depended on the episode didn't it? In ISTE the sewers were directly beneath New New York, and in LOTF Old New York was directly beneath.

[#26 :]

I's possible that the sewers could wind above and below Old New York. It's also interesting to note that in LOTF that mutant remained in the sewer even while talking to Fry, suggesting the mutants do have some sort of deep seated reluctance to enter the ruins of Old New York.

[#27 :]

I bet they all used to live there. Or they mutated from people who lived there, whatever.

[#28 :]

It could be different in different boroughs.  Sewers could be below Old Brooklyn, Queens, etc. and above Old Manhattan.

[#29 :]

 

Originally posted by Digital Dragon:
...suggesting the mutants do have some sort of deep seated reluctance to enter the ruins of Old New York.

Fear of El Chupanibre, perhaps?

[#30 :]

El Chupanibre lives in the sewers doesn't he? (Or was it the sub-sewers?)

[#31 :]

Probably, but maybe they think that he lives in the ruins.

[#32 :]

Maybe it's fear of the ghosts of long dead newyorkers, the mutants do seem fairly superstitious.

[#33 :]

Maybe because of the giant alligators living in the sewers

[#34 :]

maybe the record collections are mutant's kryptonite,but the effect wears off if you've been on the surface for years...
i mean who would want to live near 'Sports?'

[#35 :]

 those are crococodiles

[#36 :]

   

Originally posted by Jicannon:
Maybe because of the giant alligators living in the sewers

yeah im with you on that. 
and according to darthmonkey32 its crocodiles. 

[#37 :]

oh...well alligators would have been better 

[#38 :]

i think its because they like getting free stuff (ex. guitars, guitar strings, drugs, ext.)

[#39 :]

But non-mutant bums do live in Old New York... Just check LOTF where the hobo was sleeping on Bender after they reached their final stop.