SlackJawedMoron
Urban Legend
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« Reply #40 on: 03-07-2004 01:17 »
« Last Edit on: 03-07-2004 01:17 »
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Poor Hermes - forever regulated to rasta stereotype jokes. Perhaps the muderous thing was the writers tring to find another angle for joke milking (okay, it definately was). Hermes still can't carry whole episodes entire stories by himself. Even when he did take centre stage, he was either regulated to a side story for the most part (HHRHGB), or being used in his role as Dwight's father (TROAE & BSNBAOTV). The character's just a little too simple to have an entire story rest upon his flabby Carribean shoulders. I think that the strangest thing about the change in Futurama is that whilst the show did take a dip in qulaity for general gag episodes, the absolute funniest episodes are found lurking in seasons 3&4 (in my opinion, of course). The saddest thing is post WTBR, Zapp just didn't have as many good lines as he used to. Hmm... Top of the page, wasn't there something... oh yes *eats a sandwhich*
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EvilLunch
Professor
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Love the avy, can't_read. Okay, so if the crew went to a different planey every ep, it would start to get formulaic. So they 'stay home' in the fifth season more, sure, but the fifth seaon also has some of the most bizarre and outlandish episodes in the run. Kif getting pregnant? The crew becoming superheoes? Human horns? Boxes with universes in them[Blue Zoidbergs, for that matter]? Bender becoming a lady? Need I even mention Leela's languish [on Earth] in The Sting.. Even on Earth, freaky shite goes down. And so far as Hermes goes.. If I had to live with The Crew, I'd go a little mad too. I'd rather just watch them on the Tee Vee.
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Dr. Morberg
Professor
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That happened with Nixon, too. He was in alot of the episodes of season 2, then he kind of disappeared season 3. Then, he had a few lines in season 4, but they were rare. Originally posted by ooy: futurama also changed as i explain: season 1: for the whole family, exeption is love labors lost in space season 2: a bit adult like season 3:as season 2 but a bit more season 4: adultish and weird stuff happening. I disagree, season 1 isn't family friendly. It could be families of with the youngest being about 12, but I probably wouldn't let someone under 11 watch it. There are many adult jokes and language. The making love joke in TSHL, LLLIS, the adult store among other things in FOABP, little Neptune and some other jokes in MTS, the foul language in FFOD, the porno in ABPOG, the obvious drug (and other things ) references, and the strip joints in HIOR, the trannie and Fry's sterilization in FATSF, and the language. Maybe it got a little more adultish in season 2 especially near the end, but the real jump in adult content came with season 3. Then, with the exception of Spanish Fry and Bend Her, season 4 wasn't so bad.
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Nasty Pasty
DOOP Secretary
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yeah Season 4 wasnt that adult like, it was just more about developing characters and making the episodes much more emotional and great.
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Dr. Morberg
Professor
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Another thing I noticed is that season one seems a lot quieter than the later seasons. Not that the voices are louder or anything, but there is a lot less music, sound effects and noise in between people talking.
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Nasty Pasty
DOOP Secretary
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Finally! I'm not going insane! I thought i was the only one who noticed! Thank You Dr. Morberg for proving that my hourly medication is working!
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User_names_suck
Professor
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On the subject of the Amy/Kif relationship. The way I see it is love changes people, which is a pretty Shakesperian idea actually. I dont think its such a bad thing yes they lost some of their humour, but it adds more dimension to there charcters. there pretty one joke characters anyway and it would have worn thin after a while. And Kiff does still retain his sarcastic side in A Taste of freedom, because he's around Zapp. but It makes sense that around amy he's much more nervous and shy.
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Strit
Crustacean
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Fry, Bender and the Proffesor's voices have changed. Bender has changed a lot, and also the professor. Fry has just a little. I don't know about Hermes, as he is Jamaican and he changes mood in like 2 seconds. Zoidberg vioce hasn't changed, his attitude has, and he is also more liked by the employees. Bender in OF: "Save all my friends.... and also Zoidberg".
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Bay
Crustacean
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Zoidberg gets better lines as the series' progress. WMIBACIL? was centred around him in Season 2, but as an episode, it pales in comparison to his smaller roles in Parabox or Tale of two santas (part 1).
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Nasty Pasty
DOOP Secretary
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Originally posted by Spacedal11: Bender's voice was kinda raspy in the first season, than it seemed to clear up. Farnsworth wasn't as selfish as he is in TTOTS or TMLH. Fry is stupider in the 1st season. And Zoidberg wasn't as stupid as he is in the later seasons. But the first season is always differentwith a new show. YOu learn to live with it. I dunno, i think Fry got stupider as the series went on. Remember, he ate a toilet sandwich, became his own grandpa, tried to eat a pineapple on a string (why of fry) and almost jumped in lava to save a long-dead dog. Sounds pretty stupid to me.
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Ranadok
Starship Captain
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No, Fry definitely got smarter. Well, more mature would be a better way of putting it, but he was smarter, too. I mean, of your examples, only one (the toilet sandwich) is actually pure stupidity. Becoming his grandpa was not a stupid thing, it was a time paradox thing (his reasoning wasn't that bad, and it WAS kind of fast for any real thougt), the pineapple on the string was specially chosen to show his stupidity, so it really isn't a good measure (extremes are no indication of the norm), and the lava bit was during a very emotionally charged moment, and Leela (arguably the smartest, if not SANE-est character) almost did the exact same thing later. Fry is definitely more of a real person (albiet a simple one) in the later seasons, not the simpleton-because-it's-funny of the first season.
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Nasty Pasty
DOOP Secretary
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I still think that even though he got more emotional with Leela, he still was pretty damn stupid later on.
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Bay
Crustacean
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He did gain a bit more responsability as the series progressed-for example, he learnt to pilot the ship for TKOS, and had mastered the Holophoner to a certain degree by TDHAIPT
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EvilLunch
Professor
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I've got so much stupid in me, I could.. nah, forget it. Near the beginning of the series, Bender's voice was much more appealing to me. He really sounded like a weary, selfish sot. Later on, his voice has more personality and is more distinct, but somehow I don't like it as much. Also, in season 1, many of Bily's voices sounded almost too similar. The Professor sounded younger, just like a slightly more eccentric Fry. Zapp's voice was higher, a sleazy Fry. Zoidberg didn't sound Fry-ish, but actually a bit older and calmer than later on. I think the voices in season 2 were evolved enough but still close enough to the original to be my favorites of the run.
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zoidyzoid
Professor
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Originally posted by Mouse On Venus: *bump* So nobody's going to agree with or challenge my theory on Season 4 that I posted further up the page then? Ooh! Ooh! I will! I partially agree. I would say there was a decrease in consistency, but I also think that Season 4 had fewer great episodes than Seasons 2 & 3. Its best were probably more Season 1 standard, without Season 1's consistancy. You're right about the decrease in comedy and increased focus on plot & character development though, which I reckon is a bad thing (not plot and character development itself, but the way it took away the focus on keeping Futurama as fun & funny as possible). So basically, in my opinion season 4 was the worst season of Futurama. Which isn't to say that it was bad, it just wasn't as good as those that came before it.
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Ekarderif
Bending Unit
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Wow zoidyzoid, I completely disagree with you. After studying my ordered list, I have concluded that Season 4 is the best. Season 2, however, is my least liked, mainly due to all those bendercentric episodes. Season 3 was a mix bag: 9 episodes in the top 20 and 8 episodes in the bottom 20...
Anyways, what's wrong with season 4? I mean, TWOF, TS, and JB alone should triumph over the other seasons. Well, maybe not the almighty AWITM, PL, and TLOTF opening of season 3...
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Nasty Pasty
DOOP Secretary
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But still, almost all the big, amazing episodes we think of are in the last production season.
In my mind, only Season 3 comes close to being as good as season 4.
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