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Rakija

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« on: 11-24-2003 00:20 »

Other than he countless number of episodes where our futurama characters are freely entering the harsh vacuumn of space without gasping for oxygen or exploding due to a disbalance in he equilibrium of pressure I would like to make the following proposal regarding the episode 1ACV12 (When Aliens Attck). The planet Omicron Persei 8 is 1000 light years away, yet Professor Farnsworth says that scientists increased the speed of light to make interstellar travel possible in episode 2ACV10 (A Clone of My Own), Therefor the electromagnetic radiation would take less than 1000 years to reach the planet and this event could therefor not possibly occur while Fry is still unfrozen!
ActionLaPointe

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« Reply #1 on: 11-24-2003 00:31 »

good pointe says lapointe.
Action Jacktion

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« Reply #2 on: 11-24-2003 00:32 »
« Last Edit on: 11-24-2003 00:32 »

In one of the DVD commentaries, they say that signals sent before the speed of light was increased would continue traveling at the old speed, and wouldn't start going faster.

But that doesn't explain how the Nibblonians were able to get to Earth in the year 1999.  Assumedly they know another way to travel.
Col. Klink

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« Reply #3 on: 11-24-2003 00:44 »

The Speed of light isnt the Speed of light. People call it the Speed of light even though there are many other things that go that fast too. They only call it Speed of light because thats as fast as you can go. But its in Actuality the Fastest speed you can go.

Is it not possible they increased the Maximum speed without increasing the Speed of light?

Keeping in mind this is all silly since it would be impossible to muck around with the universe like that anyway.
canned eggs

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« Reply #4 on: 11-24-2003 02:41 »

This has been beaten into the ground a hundred times already.  Although Jacktion's complaint is new to me.  it's not particularly damning, though, as Nibbler never says when he left for Earth.  If they indeed "live long and are celebrated poopers," it should be no problem to spend a few aeons traveling to meet one's destiny.  Although it doesn't explain why the vet determines Nibbler's age to be 5.  Maybe the gazelle kick left him woozier than we thought...
David A

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« Reply #5 on: 11-24-2003 02:56 »

 
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Originally posted by canned eggs:
Although it doesn't explain why the vet determines Nibbler's age to be 5.

Because his tooth had five rings.

The vet said something like, "If it works the same way as the layers of a tree, then each ring equals one year."  Obviously, the rings on Nibbler's teeth don't work like the rings on a tree.

The joke wasn't how old Nibbler was.  The joke was that Fry couldn't count as high as five rings.
Rakija

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« Reply #6 on: 11-24-2003 04:07 »

 
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Originally posted by Action Jacktion:
In one of the DVD commentaries, they say that signals sent before the speed of light was increased would continue traveling at the old speed, and wouldn't start going faster.

But that doesn't explain how the Nibblonians were able to get to Earth in the year 1999.  Assumedly they know another way to travel.

oh my gosh that's in the dvd extras? and to think that i almost discovered an original scientific phenomenon
Teral

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« Reply #7 on: 11-24-2003 10:19 »
« Last Edit on: 11-24-2003 10:19 »

[yoink]

Nothing to see, move along.

Welcome to PEEL, Rakija. Enjoy it here.
Pikka Bird

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« Reply #8 on: 11-24-2003 14:54 »
« Last Edit on: 11-24-2003 14:54 »

You can go faster thatn light. In some way. You might not be able to propel an object to the speed of light or above with ordinary means, since that would require infinite amounts of energy. (According to the einsteinians- I've done some kind of comment on this in this thread- quantum physics and teleportation).
Speli

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« Reply #9 on: 11-24-2003 15:05 »

No no no. See, Einstein said that nothing could accelerate to the speed of light. He didn't say anything about things like tachyons which can actually never go slower than the speed of light.
SamuelXDiamond

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« Reply #10 on: 11-24-2003 15:39 »

Oh-ho! You put tachyons in my burrito, didn't you wife? That so explains why my lunch took three months to eat. Good one!

 
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Rakija puzzlingly said:
the countless number of episodes where our futurama characters are freely entering the harsh vacuumn of space without gasping for oxygen or exploding due to a disbalance in he equilibrium of pressure

Any examples? The only time I can think of is in "The Why of Fry", where Fry for some reason removes his helmet in the Infosphere. As it's never addressed in the episode (and no, I don't have the S4 DVDs yet), it's possible that there's an atmosphere generator in there (explains the gravity too).

The hick on the moon in The Series Has Landed was just a throwaway joke.
Rakija

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« Reply #11 on: 11-24-2003 16:25 »

the titanic episode when the characters arein the escape pod and bender casually opens the door to their craft and no, there was no airlock
Teral

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« Reply #12 on: 11-24-2003 16:35 »

Must have been, since the outer door opens upwards and out, while the inner doors open sidewards and in. Since there are two doors, an airlock is a logical conclusion.
Pikka Bird

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« Reply #13 on: 11-24-2003 17:34 »
« Last Edit on: 11-24-2003 17:34 »

   
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Originally posted by Speli:
No no no. See, Einstein said that nothing could accelerate to the speed of light. He didn't say anything about things like tachyons which can actually never go slower than the speed of light.

I know this. You see, I wrote that we cannot propel stuff to the speed of light by ordinary means... I know a tad about tachyons. But just a tad.

But the "airlock" in the escape pod looks like it's just a misstep. I can't see two doors in any shot. So this IS a physics-defying scene.
winna

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« Reply #14 on: 11-24-2003 17:39 »

The greater question that you're getting at is...  Is the speed of light (C) a constant?  And I say at the least it's debatable.  Hence the changing of the speed of light in the future.  If the speed of light can change, then what matters if you can go faster than it or not?  If you could increase its speed, you could theoretically make it go an infinite space in one second, and therefore could go any speed you wished. 

All the questions of atmospheric conditions are few and far between, so you can say the escape pod, and possibly the moon farmer, but that's it.  They did a pretty good job on that aspect of the show  :p
David A

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« Reply #15 on: 11-25-2003 02:48 »

 
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Originally posted by Speli:
No no no. See, Einstein said that nothing could accelerate to the speed of light. He didn't say anything about things like tachyons which can actually never go slower than the speed of light.

True.  Of course, tachyons are theoretical at best.  Assuming that they do exist, I have no idea how they could be detected.

 
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Originally posted by winna:
All the questions of atmospheric conditions are few and far between, so you can say the escape pod, and possibly the moon farmer, but that's it.  They did a pretty good job on that aspect of the show   :p

I agree.  In both of those cases, it was done for the sake of a joke.  The moon farmer began to suffocate and had to put his helmet back on.  In real life, he would have died almost instantly, but that wouldn't have been as funny.  The escape pod thing was a great example of subtle humor.  If you don't think about it, it doesn't seem strange; but if you do think about it, that escape pod didn't have an airlock.  How the hell did Bender get inside?
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