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DannyJC13
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The Amazonians are seen off of Amazonia and around the Universe many times throughout the show, meaning they could have met many men along the way. Who says they can't leave Amazonia?
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Inquisitor Hein
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meaning they could have met many men along the way
But none of their own species...
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Inquisitor Hein
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« Reply #5 on: 08-10-2011 23:07 »
« Last Edit on: 08-10-2011 23:09 »
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an Amazonian mother will always have Amazonian daughters. (Or at least, thats the theory that makes the most sense).
Well, a species based on the two genders having kids of only one gender could not have evolved on a planet. After all...evolution hardly takes potential visitors from space into account: A species must survive/multiply by it's own members. The Amazonian lifespan is probably much longer than humans,
Hm...Sorry, but I haven't seen any remarks in that show to support that theory. Also, Futurama does not seem to bring evidence for a "Taller Size = Longer Life" rule (Nibblonians, e.g.)
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transgender nerd under canada
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The image that conjures up... Dear God. They have forgotten about sex except for ancient legends and a subscription to Cosmo. Anway the Amazonians probably reproduce like the amazons of greek mytholgy; by matking with men of other tribes. Its like how female only pokemon species like Chansey breed. I'm just guessing they live longer then humans. Everything about them is bigger, so their lifespan might be too. It xould be possible that male amazonians were actually a seperate species, that has recently become extinct. Even if breeding with other species doesn't produce offspring or only hybrids, there's always cloning. They are members of the doop after all.
Anyhow, I think this is probably right. Plus, there *were* indigenous men before the Femputer arrived. Gotta keep in mind that the Femputer is what fucked things up.
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SpaceGoldfish fromWazn
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« Reply #12 on: 08-11-2011 03:36 »
« Last Edit on: 08-11-2011 03:49 »
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You're right, she does appear around the time the men die out, so you could be right. Plus the Amazonians aren't the brightest knives in the drawer, so it could be possible for the Femputer to wipe them out without them noticing or tricking them into doing it. While you mention it, it could be possible that Amazonia is a post-apocolyptic society, and is only just recovering from a war/disaster of some sort that caused the males of the species to become extinct, for the females to become gramatically incorrect hunter gatherers. Their society is pretty primitive, despite them having interstellar travel (and it is possible only certain members of the race are allowed to go into space) I wouldn't be surprised that the Femputor took adtvantage of this collapse to take control or orchestrated it so she could control the survivors easier. This sounds like an interesting idea for a fanfic/future episode. Too bad Bea Arthur isn't around anymore to retake up her gloriously hammy performance as the Femputer. On the other hand, the femputer is pretty reasonable, so long as you don't press her berserk buttons (pun not intended. She was considering letting the men go free, until it was revealed Fry and Zapp made fun of the women's basketball team.) Plus when she's coming clean to Bender, she didn't reveal her man genocide, if she was involved in it (but then again revealing you murdered all the males of a species isn't exactly an aphrodisiac. Bender seems to believe in equality when it comes to murdering all organic lifeforms.) Also by the year fifty million, humanity has evolved into a mostly female race. I am guessing that while the topic maker has an interesting idea, I don't think the Amazonians are in danger of becoming extinct, as even if Amazonians can't breed with other species, there are always alternatives like cloning. A male frog creature can become pregnant with the dna of a mutant female human, after all.
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SpaceGoldfish fromWazn
Urban Legend
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I was thinking that they could be a mutant offshot of humanity, but there are a lot of humanoid aliens in the Futurama universe, some of them who look the same as humans, or just mildly different (the Vincians who live for thousands of years, the Neutrals, the Grunka Lunkas, the Osirans and for a long while Leela thought she was an alien cyclops)
Unless all of those species turn out to be offshots of humanity, or maybe even humans turn out to be an offshot of some of them. But extremely human aliens, or aliens that are identical to humans except for a few superficial features like elf ears or tails are extremely common in sci fi. Hell, we are dealing with a universe where all alien races speak english and breathe oxygen, and are almost all bipedial.
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SpaceGoldfish fromWazn
Urban Legend
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Fry and Zapp's forced studding probably sired the next generation of Amazonian women. I know, but I thought studding was a good word, since it shows the purpose of the sex is to create a new generation of Amazonians (as well as providing sexual relief to the apparently somewhat sexually frustrated Amazonians). Its like horses being put out to stud... but with humans, and with the human men being raped to death.
I believe the term you are looking for is "rape."
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David A
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I was thinking that they could be a mutant offshot of humanity, but there are a lot of humanoid aliens in the Futurama universe, some of them who look the same as humans, or just mildly different (the Vincians who live for thousands of years, the Neutrals, the Grunka Lunkas, the Osirans and for a long while Leela thought she was an alien cyclops)
Unless all of those species turn out to be offshots of humanity, or maybe even humans turn out to be an offshot of some of them. But extremely human aliens, or aliens that are identical to humans except for a few superficial features like elf ears or tails are extremely common in sci fi. Hell, we are dealing with a universe where all alien races speak english and breathe oxygen, and are almost all bipedial. Yes, with all the human-like aliens in Futurama, the fact that the Amazonians resemble humans isn't really an argument for them being human, but I thought I'd mention it as a possibility. As implausible as humanoid aliens are, they are a staple of science fiction in general, and of the sort of science fiction that Futurama parodies in particular, so I wouldn't complain about that.
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SpaceGoldfish fromWazn
Urban Legend
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« Reply #21 on: 08-11-2011 05:48 »
« Last Edit on: 08-11-2011 05:50 »
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Indeed they are. Mostly its hard to take non human characters seriously in a serious setting (I know I should find a better choice of words), and most sci fi budgets don't cover sophisticated costumes. Plus when you take away things like human facial features, it becomes hard to convey emotion convincingly.
The Star Ocean series actually has "humans" evolving on various different planets, and pretty much every alien species either looks like a human, or just has a very superficial quirk (like elf ears, wings, cat ears and tails, being short, being blonde and dark skinned). Though there later turns out to be a reason for that, but its not introduced until a three games into the series.
Though I do agree with you, I was thinking there could be a chance that the Amazonians are a racial offshot from regular humans, (I was actually thinking of that earlier), and we have seen that by the year fifty million, humans have evolved into an almost entirely female race.
On the other hand, this could justify the poster's original theory. The ladies of fifty million are the last human civilization we see, and its possible they became extinct after the y chromosome in their species died out (its possible that excessive cloning lead to a lack of diverse genes). *shrugs*
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futurefreak
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If they are all products off half Amazon, half human, that Amazon lineage dwindles, and I would think with that their size would dwindle too.
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futurefreak
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Wow my people are messed up.
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Svip
Administrator
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Take Crete for instance. Decent amount of matriarchal tribes there.
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futz
Liquid Emperor
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Maybe their health care plan covers cloning. Pondering an Intergalactic Amazonian House of Pancakes since seeing the Farmer's Market scene.
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DannyJC13
DOOP Secretary
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And we don't know how long Amazonians can live for.
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coldangel
DOOP Secretary
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I knew a woman once who laid eggs. As part of a stage show. For money. Which looked like ping-pong balls.
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Inquisitor Hein
Liquid Emperor
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I doubt so, it would probably have been mentioned.
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