Xanfor
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« Reply #240 on: 06-30-2011 15:04 »
« Last Edit on: 06-30-2011 15:05 »
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Tachyon
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The process is two-way: the air or other medium is displaced back to your original position.
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Otis P Jivefunk
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In Ghost In The Machines the nurse advised Fry that "No machines are allowed" on the Amish home world and then not long afterwards the crew come visit Fry. While they visit, Leela is wearing her electronic wrist thingamajigger, the very same wrist thingamajigger that Bender had used earlier on in the episode to slap Fry with extra times. This bothered greatly as it seemed like a major contradiction and an obvious continuity error...
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Aki
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Reposting what I wrote in the 6ACV19 thread, as its of better use here. I’m amazed after having read through this entire review thread that one thing has not been picked up on as it was a major gripe I had with this episode. The nurse advised Fry that "No machines are allowed" on the Amish home world and then not long after the crew come visit Fry, Leela has her electronic wrist thingamajigger on, the very same wrist thingamajigger that Bender had used earlier on in the episode to slap Fry with several times. This bothered greatly as it seemed like a major contradiction and an obvious continuity error. I think I’ll make a thread about this issue actually... I didn't think of that. It could be explained, though, just by having Bender not think of it even though he could have used it.
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Otis P Jivefunk
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Although Bender may not have thought of it, how was Leela even allowed onto the planet while wearing it? They obviously weren't allowed to enter the planet using their usual Planet Express Ship as that would constitute being a machine. The Robot Devil must have hidden and then disguised himself to enable his passage onto the planet, but Leela's wrist thingamajigger was in full view and yet no one stopped her, not even the captain of the Amish spaceship which brought them there, now the two Amish folk who lowered the wooden walkway towards the door that the crew walked out of...
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Aki
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I don't think the Amish thought that much about it. They were just visitors for a short amount of time, I don't think they cared that much about any equipment they brought in.
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Otis P Jivefunk
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If they didn't care then they would have let them visit using the Planet Express Ship...
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Aki
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There's only one designated parking space, and they don't want other space ships destroying the beautiful nature.
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Aki
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If the people of the Amish Planet are anything like the real Amish, then visitors would be allowed to use machines, just not inhabitants. The Amish lifestyle is personal choice by those who live it, not something that they believe everyone should adopt. Even visitors who walk around among them and stuff? I'm not that familiar with how the Amish societies work, but don't they have villages and stuff where electronics are pretty much forbidden? Edit: What's with the edit?
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Aki
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Oh. So, ignore my reply. :|
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futz
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The Amish don't ban machines, they are just not allowed to own them. They can also operate some one else's machinery such as on a job. More strange was giving Fry a beard and not the wife (even a straw one) that an Amish man should have if he sports a beard.
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Aki
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jeepdavetj, they say that technology isn't allowed on the planet though. And the Robot Devil hid.
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futz
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Well, that's just what the English said - and the brochure.
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Aki
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True, but being the Amish are a mostly gentle people, do you think Leela is the type to give up her, her, wtf is that thing anyway? Any who, do you think they would have taken it from her or kept her from going? I doubt it. I don't think the Amish thought that much about it. They were just visitors for a short amount of time, I don't think they cared that much about any equipment they brought in.
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futurefreak
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That is such a painful looking position of Fry in that first grab. I really notice it when I'm seeing it for longer than a second haha.
I watched this episode again with my cousin and he made this comment about a third of the way through the episode (without seeing the ending yet): Why doesn't Bender just inhabit his body like he did to the other machines? I bring this up because Robot Devil did this in the end. What makes his duplicate body different from Bender's? What is the difference between a non-salvagable robot and one that is simply "off" or not in use?
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futurefreak
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There had to have been microwave radiation or something to kill him in that booth. The bullets wouldn't have done so I don't think...? I am thinking of the scene in Bender Gets Made when they shoot a barrage of bullets at one robot, and DonBot says, "Let that be a warning to you" and the bullet-ridden robot replies, "Thank you, DonBot."
This brings up an issue I had with the killing of mini Benders in Benderama as well. Bullets killed some of them, too. Explanations...?
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Svip
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It's a cartoon.
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i_c_weiner
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The size of the bullets compared to the mini Benders was much higher than full-sized robot. The likelihood of the mini Benders getting hit at a vital component is much higher.
There are any number of things that could've killed him, and we've seen the suicide booths equipped with a various assortment of gadgets, some of which we have no idea what they actually. However, in answer to your question of why he didn't go back to his own body, Svip's example was spot on. If we say that there were microwaves in the suicide booth, then his body's motherboard likely was fried and thus his robot ghost could not reside there. At the end of the episode, there was divine intervention that allowed him to return to his body.
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Xanfor
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All the destroyed little Benders were uploaded into the Cloud, where they promptly hid themselves and now operate the universe's most profitable botnet.
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Aki
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I recall laser guns or similar guns in 6ACV01 and 6ACV11. I remember a regular gun in 6ACV17. What other appearances?
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Xanfor
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« Reply #279 on: 07-05-2011 00:07 »
« Last Edit on: 07-05-2011 00:08 »
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Maybe all these 21st century references and technologies are part of a larger plot arc. In a future episode, we'll likely see Leela walking by herself through the PE ship, only for part of the bulkhead to slide away, a female Nibblonian with an eyepatch say "No, I think she's just dreaming," and then everything return the way it was. Then Bender, along with all the other robots, will start suffering mysterious CPU process threads, seemingly caused by a patch being installed onto a digital reality. As it'll turn out, the Brainspawn have managed to destroy reality in a battle subsequently erased from human memory, and the entire universe is running as a hologrammatic simulation extracted from Fry's memories, hence the numerous contemporary references. The robots are the only ones who realize this, however, hence the patch to try and distract them from their suspicions, and of course, the heavy Bender-centric nature of this season's episodes and the introduction of a "cloud" plane that only robots can enter. Leela, meanwhile, pregnant with Fry's child, the only one who can defeat the Brainspawn and restore the universe, has been kidnapped by the Nibblonians and kept physically safe, plugged into the same virtual simulation that everyone else is living in, but in order to keep psychological indications of her pregnancy from showing, they've had to mask her feelings for Fry so that she is not aware of how their relationship should be progressing.
You'll see. This all makes perfect sense.
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