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Xanfor

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« #80 : 07-19-2008 21:30 »
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The Institute for Jewish Research ain't gonna be too happy 'bout that.

TOTPSDD!

hobbitboy

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« #81 : 07-22-2008 04:36 »
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I know its not technically even a 'goof' (let alone the best kind of goof) but in tBwaBB when Monique first begins speaking her voice sounds 'wrong'. Same with the Robot Devil. They both come right as their respective scenes progress but even after repeated viewings they still, to me, initially sound out of character.
Smarty

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« #82 : 08-27-2008 21:13 »

just thought of something.   Yivo says something along the lines of "I looked across eternity and saw the big bang, and I was like, woah, who's that?"  And he also says that he sent his image into the minds of human artists, and that gave them their image of heaven.  Why then does he use the excuse that "I was lonely; I didn't even know there was anyone else" for 'raping' universe A?  Do you think that was a writing goof, or was Yivo even less scrupulous than he seemed to be?

He probably saw the universe, not knowing there were any living beings in it.
Smarty

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« #83 : 08-27-2008 21:18 »

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Originally posted by SpaceCase: Let's see if I have this straight (and please correct me if I don't):
According to our esteemed Xanfor, the condition popularly referred to as "love" is a chemical process in th brain?
Said chemical process may have various transient physical effects such as changes in one's breathing, pulse rate, blood pressure, perspiration, pupil dilation, galvanic skin response, etc., etc.

Is it just me, or does that seem rather demeaning to (arguably) the most sought-after of human feelings?

Using the same model, one might argue that consciousness is merely a chemical process in the brain. I am not so arguing, but t'would seem at least equally as demeaning as the previous.  :hmpf:
It's "throwing the baby out with the bathwater," as it were.
If anyone needs me I'll be under my rock...

If that is confusing, imagine how confusing this must be to Lrrr if he can't understand the meaning of "wuv."
winna

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« #84 : 08-28-2008 23:15 »

Every decision one makes is based on the outcome of all decisions one has made in the past. You did A, and B happened, therefore, if you want something very much like B to happen, you must do something very much like A. And it gets even more complex; indeed, if one decides to take chaos theory into account, it can and should be argued that every choice we make is influenced by every other choice we have ever made. So, imagine these following decisions, which someone who shall remain nameless made in order alphabetical: A, B, C, D, and E. Now, s/he makes another decision, F. Since every decision is based on the ones before it:

A + B + C + D + E = F1

But suppose we were to erase this person's memory of making the decisions B, C, D. This is possible, as it is scientifically accepted that memories are stored within the cerebellum. So we remove the biochemicals which are storing those particular memories, or reset them to their original states, or however. Now, we have:

A + E = F2

And F1 ≠ F2

If the person is aware that their memory has been erased, or their thinking patterns are "conditioned" into think along the same lines as before (for whatever reason, I'm winging this), or if we accept that the soul has memory of its own, rational thinking would be:

A + X + E = F3

If we accept the fact that soul has memory, then no matter how we effect the neurons in the brain, we could never rid the mind of B, C, and D. At worst, all we could do is replace the individual B, C and D with their sum, X, which the soul would always have. Which would then make F3 = F1. But if we accept that, then how do we explain amnesia? We know that the brain is at fault for that particualr type of memory loss... But is it the soul's fault as well that its victims don't even have X?

So memory, in a human's case, is dependent on the physical form of the body.

I would argue that any decision one makes is based on the sum of a large variety of variables that include things that are not decision outcomes made previously.

After all, decision A, being the first decision made, had to be decided without the aid of previous decisions, did it not?

If that's the case, I'd say amnesia is another one of those variables, or groups of variables, you have yet to account for:

Assuming X is the sum of memories cut out for whatever reason, your equation:

A + X + E = F3

Would actually be:

A + X + Y + E = F4

Where Y represents variables other than previously made decisions.... including, but not necessarily confined to, the amnesia you suggested could erase such memories.

The sum of X and Y could potentially negate whatever was held in just X.... in this case they do.
Seymour_My_Hero

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« #85 : 08-28-2008 23:45 »

My brain hurts... :hmpf:
soylentOrange

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« #86 : 08-29-2008 05:34 »

I don't think the thought process of the human brain can be simplified to that extent.  If it were true that any one decision depended only on the sum total of all previous decisions, then it would be possible (though not easy) to accurately predict a person's future decisions.  The trouble is that the actual mechanism responsible for our thinking processes works on such physically small distance and time scales that quantum mechanical effects have to be taken into account.  We can't say exactly how decision X follows from some set of all previous decisions Y, or even how output follows from input, because there is some level of uncertainty (due to the Uncertainty Principle)  built into our decision processes. 
km73

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« #87 : 08-29-2008 06:14 »

We can't say exactly how decision X follows from some set of all previous decisions Y, or even how output follows from input, because there is some level of uncertainty (due to the Uncertainty Principle)  built into our decision processes. 

Exactamundo.


Also, people are unpredictable.
winna

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« #88 : 08-29-2008 06:35 »

Which was the argument I made, which could be used to suggest the soul has far more lasting consequences tied with our physical form.
La Belle Leela

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« #89 : 08-30-2008 17:13 »

Cinimod

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« #90 : 08-30-2008 18:40 »

When Fry dumps Colleen it is at night and then when he leaves the house it is morning and she is not going on the date and the clothes have changed, yet why would Fry still stay in her house a day after he had dumped her.
Smarty

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« #91 : 08-30-2008 22:12 »

Maybe he was too tired to go home and since she was going out he stayed. Or maybe he went home when she left and then forgot his stuff. Then he returned in the morning to get it and say goodbye.
Rolandk73

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« #92 : 09-10-2008 20:40 »

Why did Yivo only date Earth? He seemed to concentrate on the Earth, but called it universe. Also, the Earth had the privilege of deciding to marry yivo. Why didn't they talk with DOOP?
km73

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« #93 : 09-12-2008 14:33 »

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Why did Yivo only date Earth?

He didn't, there were those scenes showing people from other planets going to join him, such as the one with the Globetrotter Planet.
winna

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« #94 : 09-14-2008 13:16 »

I think Richard Nixon possibly holds a strong hand in foreign affairs, and as such can head table discussions for DOOP members, such as was occurring when it seemed like Earth was the one deciding to date Yivo.... although I have to admit that it seemed a little weird and not detailed enough in the plot.

Suffice it to say... Yivo was dating the whole universe.... but, in BWaBB, instead of seeing scklee interact with everybody in the universe, the movie focuses on how the events unfolded from a very Earth perspective.  It makes a little more sense considering that an Earth native wwas the first one to come into contact with Yivo and subsequently become sckler voice to the masses.
futz
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« #95 : 10-29-2008 02:44 »

Somehow the PE crew was able to retrieve and repair the ship at the same time they were hiding from Yivo.



Your Standard BendingUnit

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« #96 : 10-30-2008 04:06 »

nice catch. Hadn't noticed that before, although it happens a lot in other epidodes.
hobbitboy

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« #97 : 10-30-2008 07:39 »

[MontyPython]

Planet Express Ship: They crashed me into the ground!

<Awkward pause>

Planet Express Ship: I got better.

[/MontyPython]
KurtPikachu2001

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« #98 : 10-30-2008 17:26 »

Yivo dated the Omicrons, too.  He dated the whole universe.   When it was on Comedy Central last week, the part where Amy was calling her mother on the phone crying about Kiff and her mother says, "nobody likes a widow" was skipped.  Apparently to make time for commercials. 

Too bad it didn't have like a sneak peak to Bender's Game or some mock commercials like when BBS was shown. 
PatchChord_Adams

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« #99 : 10-31-2008 02:01 »

Somehow the PE crew was able to retrieve and repair the ship at the same time they were hiding from Yivo.





who cares... it's just a tv show
futz
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« #100 : 10-31-2008 02:44 »

Because that's what this thread is for, rather than trolling.
hobbitboy

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« #101 : 10-31-2008 06:58 »

rather than "in addition to"
ivan_fry

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« #102 : 11-01-2008 06:06 »

Just a small thing, it shows Fry reaching the anomaly twice; the initial time just after he leaves the Nimbus, then once again just before he talks to Kif (in other words, one second he's right next to the anomaly, then not long after he's heading towards it again).
Your Standard BendingUnit

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« #103 : 11-01-2008 19:02 »

Ya. I noticed that one too. Happens in a couple episodes where it cuts to commercial too. Can only think of one off-hand: In the honking, the first time Bender is going for Leela in were-car form and she is backed up against a fence. He is like 2 feet from her, then cuts to commerical, then he's like 25 feet back again and she has time to get away.
Frisco17

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« #104 : 11-02-2008 01:07 »

who cares... it's just a tv show

Just repeat to yourself "It's just a show, I should really just relax" for myst.....er......Futurama
totalnerd undercanada

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« #105 : 11-04-2008 02:17 »

Ya. I noticed that one too. Happens in a couple episodes where it cuts to commercial too. Can only think of one off-hand: In the honking, the first time Bender is going for Leela in were-car form and she is backed up against a fence. He is like 2 feet from her, then cuts to commerical, then he's like 25 feet back again and she has time to get away.

I believe that's an animation standard. They animate both sides of the commercial with a short overlap, so that when the cut happens, the network can trim a few seconds to display a network/series/show logo if they so desire, without screwing up the plot by missing stuff out.
Bigboysdontcry

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« #106 : 11-04-2008 17:59 »

who cares... it's just a tv show

PatchChord_ Adams, you suck
hobbitboy

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« #107 : 11-05-2008 12:34 »



      who cares... it's just a tv show


   PatchChord_ Adams, you suck


who cares... it's just the unsolicited opinion of some unknown person on the internet
robertojamison

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« #108 : 12-06-2008 21:26 »

I think Futurama uses scene cuts very well. They trust their viewers are not idiots and can make obvious assumptions.
Seymour_My_Hero

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« #109 : 01-23-2009 02:51 »

Well, just noticed something today. When everybody discovers Yivo is a cruel monster, Leela is right next to Fry. But when Amy says "Kif Kroker, my Fon Fon Ruu", Leela is next to Hermes. (Hermes is directly across from Fry)
Bear

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« #110 : 01-23-2009 16:48 »

Maybe Fry smelled bad? :confused:
beck

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« #111 : 05-22-2009 20:10 »

Not much of a goof, but i'm translating BWABB into some weird foreign language, so could anyone please advice about  "curb your lizard" roadsign? Its seen when Leela and Amy are running away from tentacles+Vernstrom. Is there an actual sign like "curb your... something"  in NY and if there is - what does it mean?

And Harvey Wallclimber, please? Any joke in there?
SpaceCase

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« #112 : 05-22-2009 22:53 »

Not much of a goof, but i'm translating BWABB into some weird foreign language, so could anyone please advice about  "curb your lizard" roadsign? Its seen when Leela and Amy are running away from tentacles+Vernstrom. Is there an actual sign like "curb your... something"  in NY and if there is - what does it mean?

     

And Harvey Wallclimber, please? Any joke in there?

     

A "Harvey Wall-banger" is a cocktail...

     

And sometimes a pun...
And now back to our thread...

beck

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« #113 : 05-23-2009 08:17 »

SpaceCase
Thank-you-very-much-indeed!
futz
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« #114 : 05-23-2009 11:22 »

"Curb Your Dog" is a sign meaning if your dog needs to take a dumb have it do it on the curb of the road and not the sidewalk where people can step in it.

A "Harvey Wallbanger" is a contemporary mixed drink. Don't know what's in it but I'm sure there is a receipe on the internets or you can wait until the bulk of PEEL members are awake and over their morning hangovers to find out.
SpaceCase

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« #115 : 05-23-2009 14:05 »

SpaceCase
Thank-you-very-much-indeed!

No extra charge...  ;)

beck

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« #116 : 05-23-2009 16:18 »

That was very helpful, thanks!
Is it Ok to ask about these things here? (In case i'll ask again sometime)
SpaceCase

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« #117 : 05-23-2009 17:41 »

That was very helpful, thanks!
Is it Ok to ask about these things here? (In case i'll ask again sometime)

[*SpaceCase looks one way, then the other*]
[*SpaceCase points at self*]

You're askin' me?  :confused:

Assuming so: Generally, yes, it's okay - with a proviso.
Please do a search to see if similar subjects have been raised before.
I'll just... ooze back out under the door now...

beck

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« #118 : 05-29-2009 13:01 »
« : 05-31-2009 08:51 »

Well, here is something else I didn't get :( - Jakabird. Is there any real bird with similar name? And what does "Jaka" part mean?

EDIT: Any ideas, please? Honestly, I tried searching, but it still remains unclear. Ok, I understand it's a made-up word, but is there something it's referring to?
The Dark One
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« #119 : 06-11-2009 17:17 »

Not only that, but if electrical devices cannot go through the anomalie, how did Fry manage to get in while wearing a space suit? In the same scene, Kif was in space without a space suit... I can't say I remember seeing Kif in space without a suit before.
Kif wore a space suit in the epi "Brannigan begins again"
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