Futurama in Family Guy????

[#40 :]

Gotta say, Futurama, The Simpsons, Family Guy & most cartoons are still heads & tails better than the crap the studios program on TV & call "entertainment".  Especially reality TV shows.  Yeah, reality; right...

[#41 :]

Damn straight!

[#42 :]

It's so damn straight it's impending a bending.

But don't you feel sorry for the people hooked on that crap?

[#43 :]

Feeling sorry for someone hooked on crap TV is like feeling sorry for someone who voluntarily moves into a trailer park.  It's their choice; they gotta live with it...

[#44 :]

Just like I feel sorry for people that watch family guy, yeah, I said it!

[#45 :]

 

Originally posted by hell-dog:
Just like I feel sorry for people that watch family guy, yeah, I said it!

I watch it, but then I also like it. I had no idea that the show was reviled by so many people until relatively recently and even now I still don't 'see' the what the problem is.

However, given the amount of support for the position contrary to my own it seems that I am the one at fault. I must have particulary non-discerning (Is that a word?) or unrefined tastes. Maybe I'm just not very perceptive. But on this issue I'm happy to say that ignorance is bliss, baby! 

I only feel sorry for those Family Guy watchers who don't like it.

[#46 :]

I like it, I'm just saying that it doesn't even come close to Futurama's level of awesomeness.

[#47 :]

I agree with Frisco17. I like it to but not as much as I like Futurama. Sometimes I get tired of Family Guy, where as with Futurama I can never ever get bored of.

[#48 :]

 

Originally posted by hobbitboy:
 

Originally posted by hell-dog:
Just like I feel sorry for people that watch family guy, yeah, I said it!

I watch it, but then I also like it. I had no idea that the show was reviled by so many people until relatively recently and even now I still don't 'see' the what the problem is.

I think there are a few reasons why Futurama fans have a problem with Family Guy.  Futurama is to a large extent a cult based phenomenon; those of us who have been watching the show for all this time are really kind of elitist about what they watch.  Family Guy fandom was similar to this in a lot of ways until it came back.  It got bandwagoned like a mother*********.  I'd see t-shirts and here people talk about family guy for an episode I'd seen 4 years ago... like it was new & fresh. 

Another reason for people's unreasonable hatred for family guy is the formula for the show.  It is very formulaic... such and such happens... flashback... random reference.  The concept of the show is even a reference to the Simpsons.  What's even more infuriating is that a large portion of Family Guy's audience isn't old enough to get most of the references... and yet they laugh... but they don't even know why it's funny.

Don't get me wrong... Family Guy isn't a bad show... and I enjoyed watching it the first time around.  Then you compare it to something like Futurama.... which for the most part is true quality television, and it seems a little unfair that Family Guy steals the spotlight.  Then again, I'd prefer it that way... I like to secretly think Futurama is mine, as do other fans I suspect.

[#49 :]

Once again someone has taken what I was trying to say and said it in a vastly superior way. I agree with everything you just said Winna.

[#50 :]

 

Originally posted by winna:
What's even more infuriating is that a large portion of Family Guy's audience isn't old enough to get most of the references... and yet they laugh... but they don't even know why it's funny.

This is why it baffles me that Family Guy actually has teenage fans, who weren't even born when the 70's and 80's movies and TV shows the series references incessantly were released. Yeah, they get off on the "shock" humor and general misanthropy of the series, but I can't imagine them getting a three minute cutaway joke were the show recreates a musical number from Litte Shop Of Horrors VERBATIM.

That's what I love about Futurama. There are some bad taste jokes, a smidgen of vulgarity, and some slapstick for the kiddies, but the show's references aren't just reduced to endless Star Trek/Wars gags (whereas Family Guy sticks at least one Lucasfilm recreation into every single episode), it also touches of the vast wealth of great literary sci-fi, which most of the show's older fanbase will "get". It's not like, "Oh wow, I remember that...!" every fifteen seconds. 

[#51 :]

It's totally the shock humor that the younger audience feeds off of.  They don't need to know what it's about to realize that it's completely ridiculous and unexpected.

In reality, the references themselves are probably the best part of Family Guy.  If you actual get the reference, it's a comment about that particular thing done in a creative way, and it's general a funny way of looking at it.

For the most part I'd blame this ignorance on the fact that a lot of people growing up within the last few decades have difficulty keeping an attention span.  Each new generation seems more unable than the last to concentrate on something very long; I'd attribute this to television itself; it's a passive medium which doesn't demand a whole lot of thinking, and becomes very hypnotic.  In that hypnotic state it's easier to make a point in 5 seconds rather than 30 (probably an exaggeration, the numbers are slightly higher).  Less people in this category probably read than watch television... play videogames... everything is fresh when it's for 5 seconds.... they're being trained to have short attention spans.  I don't personally like this life perspective, that's probably why I don't think highly much of people who are infatuated with family guy. 

OH MY GOSH, HE WAS FIGHTING A GUY IN A CHICKEN!  DID YOU SEE THAT!  A CHICKEN!!!!  OH YEAH!

Then again... the genre is perfect, it actually is as hilarious as it's made out to be; I even find it enjoyable myself... even if I feel a little dirty afterwards. 

But it isn't timeless.  It gets old and repetitive after awhile... and then it's just the same joke over & over again.  Nothing in it has any depth... and it wasn't quite as clever as the pieces that actually pioneered the genre.

[#52 :]

Exactly the Simpsons and Futurama are timeless. Family Guy is funny a few times and then just fizzles out.

@Nasty I know what you mean about most people being to young to get alot of it. I don't think it's all age though as much as it is apathy to anything that came before them because as far as they care it didn't exist. I was born near the end of the 80s but I still know about alot of this stuff because I don't automatically ignore something because it was before my time, if anything I try and figure out what it is. This is how I ended up with every Get Smart episode on DVD. Besides TV was better then anyway. With the huge exception of Futurama TV got alot worse in the early 2000s.

[#53 :]

The reason Family Guy is so hated was very easily summed up in South Park. They pointed out that the writers of Family Guy simply come up with some random crap and roll with it 'Hey, remember that time I played basketball with the KKK?' or some other nonsense crap that anyone (even a manatee) could come up with. The jokes in Simpsons and Futurama at least take a lot of thought to write, and a lot of thought to get. That's why I personally hate Family Guy, because the writing for that show requires less writing talent than any other show in history.

[#54 :]

So its not the show itself.
Its not even whether the material in the show is any good.
Its the not taking enough time and effort when writing the material that engenders feelings of hatred in you?

Riiiiii... iiight. 

Doesn't anyone find it at least somewhat disturbing that people can be so offended by something as impersonal as the modus operandi of a particular TV show's writing staff?

I can understand that lots of people don't like the show. What I don't get are the levels of vehemence that are often displayed when compared to the reasons given for them.

Oh well, it just goes to show that not everyone is the same.

[#55 :]

Okay, hate is a strong word. I guess I can't say I hate Family Guy, but I do dislike the modus operandi of the writing staff. I will admit, however, of the few episodes I did watch, I thought Stewie's antics were quite funny.

[#56 :]

I do hate Family Guy with a passion, and the fact that McFarlane will be pocketing a cool $100 million to keep his crap on the air until 2012 only makes me angrier. Why shouldn't I be mad at someone who just makes references to whatever shit he saw on TV when he was 10 and becomes a multi-millionaire? 

[#57 :]

 

Originally posted by NastyInThePasty:
I do hate Family Guy with a passion

Do you care to tell us (okay, me) why?
 

and the fact that McFarlane will be pocketing a cool $100 million to keep his crap on the air until 2012 only makes me angrier. Why shouldn't I be mad at someone who just makes references to whatever shit he saw on TV when he was 10 and becomes a multi-millionaire?   

Why should that make you mad? What business is it of yours at all?

A massive amount of money was available and people who control it were convinced by Mr McFarlane to buy his program.

Are you saying that he shouldn't try and flog off his product? Or that he shouldn't take the best price that he can get for it?

A lot of people seem come across as petulant, jealous, mean-spirited, and/or mentally unbalanced when you compare the strength of their feeling with their justifications for it.

[#58 :]

 

Originally posted by hobbitboy:
   

Originally posted by NastyInThePasty:
I do hate Family Guy with a passion

Do you care to tell us (okay, me) why?
   

and the fact that McFarlane will be pocketing a cool $100 million to keep his crap on the air until 2012 only makes me angrier. Why shouldn't I be mad at someone who just makes references to whatever shit he saw on TV when he was 10 and becomes a multi-millionaire?     

Why should that make you mad? What business is it of yours at all?

A massive amount of money was available and people who control it were convinced by Mr McFarlane to buy his program.

Are you saying that he shouldn't try and flog off his product? Or that he shouldn't take the best price that he can get for it?

A lot of people seem come across as petulant, jealous, mean-spirited, and/or mentally unbalanced when you compare the strength of their feeling with their justifications for it.

There is no need for name-calling. The reason people dislike Family Guy is because it is crap. Retarded crap. Retarded unoriginal crap. The episodes are lazyley written, the characters are 1 dimensional and the jokes are so juveinile that they would make a retarded 3 year old roll his eyes in disgust.

A typical Family Guy joke:

Lois: Peter, I cant believe that you invited your ex-girlfriend to dinner here tonight!

Peter: I know, I dont know what the hell I was thinking, this is worse than that time I got my head stuck in the toilet.

[the scene cuts to the bathroom, Peter has his head stuck in the toilet and Brian is staning there]

Brian: Wow. I guess I was wrong, your head *can* fit in a toilet bowl. Looks like I owe you five bucks.

Peter: I cant breathe.


I feel dirty for having wrote that. Anyway, Seth Mac Farlane is an unoriginal hack and I'd punch him in the face if I ever met him.

[#59 :]

Thanks for the reply, Vanguard20 but it mainly seems to prove my point.

Originally posted by Vanguard20:
  There is no need for name-calling. The reason people dislike Family Guy is because it is crap. Retarded crap. Retarded unoriginal crap. The episodes are lazyley written, the characters are 1 dimensional and the jokes are so juveinile that they would make a retarded 3 year old roll his eyes in disgust.

Okay. 'crap' I can understand. Unoriginal, one-dimensional characterisations and juvenile humor are all critisims that I can accept. But then we get...
 

Anyway, Seth Mac Farlane is an unoriginal hack and I'd punch him in the face if I ever met him.

Huh? Where in (I'm paraphrasing here) "an unoriginal hack who uses one-dimensional characterisations and juvenile humor to produce work that you* consider to be crap" do you find justification for physical assult?

* Remember that a large number of people do seem to actually like his show.

[#60 :]

 

Originally posted by hobbitboy:
Thanks for the reply, Vanguard20 but it mainly seems to prove my point. 

Originally posted by Vanguard20:
  There is no need for name-calling. The reason people dislike Family Guy is because it is crap. Retarded crap. Retarded unoriginal crap. The episodes are lazyley written, the characters are 1 dimensional and the jokes are so juveinile that they would make a retarded 3 year old roll his eyes in disgust.

Okay. 'crap' I can understand. Unoriginal, one-dimensional characterisations and juvenile humor are all critisims that I can accept. But then we get...
 

Anyway, Seth Mac Farlane is an unoriginal hack and I'd punch him in the face if I ever met him.

Huh? Where in (I'm paraphrasing here) "an unoriginal hack who uses one-dimensional characterisations and juvenile humor to produce work that you* consider to be crap" do you find justification for physical assult?

You mean aside from what I have already stated? How about the fact that Matt Greoning spent FUCKING YEARS struggling to get the Simpsons off the ground and put loads of effort working to get it to where it is today, where as Seth Mac Farlane comes along, makes a bunch of 1D characters who just hurl fart and penis jokes at each other and suddenly he is a fucking millionaire!

[#61 :]

 

Originally posted by Vanguard20:
 You mean aside from what I have already stated? How about the fact that Matt Greoning spent FUCKING YEARS struggling to get the Simpsons off the ground and put loads of effort working to get it to where it is today, where as Seth Mac Farlane comes along, makes a bunch of 1D characters who just hurl fart and penis jokes at each other and suddenly he is a fucking millionaire!

[Applauds] Couldn't have put it better myself.

A big  to Seth McFarlane's plagarism passing as "satire".

Oh, and stretching a "joke" where Peter tries to pick up a dead frog for fifty seconds?!   

[#62 :]

 

Originally posted by NastyInThePasty:
 [Applauds] Couldn't have put it better myself.

A big    to Seth McFarlane's plagarism passing as "satire".

 

 Give him a big    for me too, NITP.

[#63 :]

@Limegreen: Lol

Concerning FG: I like things that are of an acceptable quality. Why should I waste my (valuable?) time with substandard art?
I'm just saying....

[#64 :]

hmm alot of people are saying that FG is a rip of the Simpson's, but just because it is based around a family like the Simpson's doesn't mean its copying it....

Although i enjoying watching Family Guy i only like the jokes because they are stupid in the first place. Futurama also has alot of stupid jokes one of them been the fact that fry is just plain stupid.

But yes Futurama and The Simpson's are way out of Family Guys league simply because they are more creative and the story lines are much better, have more thought and are well put together.

[#65 :]

I think that calendar thing was the only way Futurama can acknowledge FG because for them to have cameos by cartoons would they not have to admit Futurama is a cartoon?  Which somewhere Matt Groening said that it was meant to be not cartoon like, unlike The Simpsons.  So in the example of the PJ's thing they had it engraved on the sewer lid and FG on the calendar, but no actual cameos as far as i can remember. 
Correct me if i'm wrong.

P.S: I like FG but in a totally different way to Futurama.

[#66 :]

 

Originally posted by Xenox:
hmm alot of people are saying that FG is a rip of the Simpson's, but just because it is based around a family like the Simpson's doesn't mean its copying it....

A-hem:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQFPVKkh0IM

 

[#67 :]

The secret of creativity is knowing how to hide your sources.  ~ Albert Einstein Xanfor

Unlike me, Family Guy does not know how to hide their sources.

[#68 :]

lol that dead frog joke is really funny.

probably cause i live in canada and i have to

use a proxy server to see the new futurama

episodes ( stupid comendy network/central  )

[#69 :]

I hate Family Guy, live with it, so do other people, this is a Futurama fan website, if u wanna express your like of family, go to the off-topic or get off this Futurama based board.

[#70 :]

All Links Obtained from Google Search "Family Guy 6ACX18":
1. http://www.electronicsinfoline.com/News/New_Gadgets/Portable_Media_Player/family-guy-ipod.html
1-a.http://www.family-guy-season-7-episode-guide-for-family-guy-season-7.com/- Link off of Site 1, I cannot access this site (perhaps made up?)
2. http://www.familyguynow.com/season.php?id=7
3. http://forums.fox.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=1&nav=messages&webtag=foxfamilyguymb&tid=389- Episode Summaries Obtained from Wikipedia (now edited, I have not checked Wikipedia's edit history yet though)
4. http://www.meevee.com/channels/smartChannel.aspx?q=Futurama&id=80495429&t=TITLE- Only links back to Link 1.

Performed Google Search on "Family Guy Season 6/7 (Preview)". Almost all videos were of poor-quality clips or of rickroll quality, one or two which seem to be real, but were taken down by Fox.

Family Guy Wikipedia Article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Family_Guy_episodes#Season_7:_2008-2009
The list of future episodes skips over 6ACX18-6ACX20.
The episode summaries given on the sites above do not match the episode summaries on Wikipedia.
I don't know if these episodes are fan-written or not. I doubt they're real, but I just want to keep this in the open (if Seth pulls one on the Futurama fans, a really wierd one indeed).

I can't say very much right now, but I will hopefully get back to this post to explain. I've been home sick for about a week now and am head over heels in make-up work. And on my incomprehensionable (gr.) schedule and in my ill mindset, it's going to be a while. But for now, take a look at the links and see what you think.

[#71 :]

im so over family guy 

[#72 :]

Family guy is beat, I loved the first 5 seasons or at least tried to stay interested and now Im am very disappointed. Family Guy needs to go away. They dont even try. Screw them.

[#73 :]

I absolutely don't like Family Guy. I'd rather watch painted Scruffy's death, than this.
But I like Scraffy. So Family Guy is to be shot!

[#74 :]

I just found out something on Family Guy's sister show, "American Dad".

On tonight's episode, when Roger dresses up as the phantom of the telethon, his tuxedo mirrors Futurama's Lars' tuxedo during the wedding scene. The coloring was right on, he even had an ascot and the undervest had buttons on the same side. The only thing that was different that the coat wasn't a tail coat like Lars', but a cape (with different coloring, of course).

Eh, I thought it was interesting.

[#75 :]

That's an obsessive level of detail Frida. Bravo!

[#76 :]

I absolutely don't like Family Guy. I'd rather watch painted Scruffy's death, than this.
But I like Scraffy. So Family Guy is to be shot!

I always say the writers of that show should be shot.

[#77 :]

I think the writers of Futurama are more professional and tactful then FM. They choose not to take the cheap shots, and actually respect FM and pay them the odd complement (12 laughs a year calender).

Good for them!

[#78 :]

FM?

Do you actually think associating Family Guy with "twelve laughs a year" is intended as a compliment? (It works out to be approximately 2 laughs every 3 episodes.)

[#79 :]

Yeaaaaaaaaah...I would say the upcoming Seth McFarlane guest appearances, positive or negative, is more of a compliment than "Twelve Laughs A Year" XP

I do agree that they have more tact, but whether or not that's a good things depends on a persons' tastes.

At any rate...I don't hate Family Guy, but it's not exactly something I feel like I'm going to be compelled to show to my kids when they're old enough (unlike a number of other books and tv shows).  American Dad's a bit better for me, but yeah.  I just don't see watching them again years from now?