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winna

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« #48 : 05-02-2008 04:23 »
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Originally posted by hobbitboy: Originally posted by hell-dog: Just like I feel sorry for people that watch family guy, yeah, I said it! I watch it, but then I also like it. I had no idea that the show was reviled by so many people until relatively recently and even now I still don't 'see' the what the problem is.
I think there are a few reasons why Futurama fans have a problem with Family Guy. Futurama is to a large extent a cult based phenomenon; those of us who have been watching the show for all this time are really kind of elitist about what they watch. Family Guy fandom was similar to this in a lot of ways until it came back. It got bandwagoned like a mother*********. I'd see t-shirts and here people talk about family guy for an episode I'd seen 4 years ago... like it was new & fresh. Another reason for people's unreasonable hatred for family guy is the formula for the show. It is very formulaic... such and such happens... flashback... random reference. The concept of the show is even a reference to the Simpsons. What's even more infuriating is that a large portion of Family Guy's audience isn't old enough to get most of the references... and yet they laugh... but they don't even know why it's funny. Don't get me wrong... Family Guy isn't a bad show... and I enjoyed watching it the first time around. Then you compare it to something like Futurama.... which for the most part is true quality television, and it seems a little unfair that Family Guy steals the spotlight. Then again, I'd prefer it that way... I like to secretly think Futurama is mine, as do other fans I suspect.
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« #50 : 05-02-2008 21:03 »
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Originally posted by winna: What's even more infuriating is that a large portion of Family Guy's audience isn't old enough to get most of the references... and yet they laugh... but they don't even know why it's funny.
This is why it baffles me that Family Guy actually has teenage fans, who weren't even born when the 70's and 80's movies and TV shows the series references incessantly were released. Yeah, they get off on the "shock" humor and general misanthropy of the series, but I can't imagine them getting a three minute cutaway joke were the show recreates a musical number from Litte Shop Of Horrors VERBATIM. That's what I love about Futurama. There are some bad taste jokes, a smidgen of vulgarity, and some slapstick for the kiddies, but the show's references aren't just reduced to endless Star Trek/ Wars gags (whereas Family Guy sticks at least one Lucasfilm recreation into every single episode), it also touches of the vast wealth of great literary sci-fi, which most of the show's older fanbase will "get". It's not like, "Oh wow, I remember that...!" every fifteen seconds.
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hobbitboy

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« #54 : 05-15-2008 04:22 »
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So its not the show itself. Its not even whether the material in the show is any good. Its the not taking enough time and effort when writing the material that engenders feelings of hatred in you? Riiiiii... iiight.  Doesn't anyone find it at least somewhat disturbing that people can be so offended by something as impersonal as the modus operandi of a particular TV show's writing staff? I can understand that lots of people don't like the show. What I don't get are the levels of vehemence that are often displayed when compared to the reasons given for them. Oh well, it just goes to show that not everyone is the same.
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« #56 : 05-15-2008 21:36 »
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I do hate Family Guy with a passion, and the fact that McFarlane will be pocketing a cool $100 million to keep his crap on the air until 2012 only makes me angrier. Why shouldn't I be mad at someone who just makes references to whatever shit he saw on TV when he was 10 and becomes a multi-millionaire? 
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hobbitboy

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« #57 : 05-16-2008 04:15 »
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Originally posted by NastyInThePasty: I do hate Family Guy with a passion Do you care to tell us (okay, me) why? and the fact that McFarlane will be pocketing a cool $100 million to keep his crap on the air until 2012 only makes me angrier. Why shouldn't I be mad at someone who just makes references to whatever shit he saw on TV when he was 10 and becomes a multi-millionaire?  Why should that make you mad? What business is it of yours at all? A massive amount of money was available and people who control it were convinced by Mr McFarlane to buy his program. Are you saying that he shouldn't try and flog off his product? Or that he shouldn't take the best price that he can get for it? A lot of people seem come across as petulant, jealous, mean-spirited, and/or mentally unbalanced when you compare the strength of their feeling with their justifications for it.
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« #58 : 05-23-2008 15:41 »
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Originally posted by hobbitboy: Originally posted by NastyInThePasty: I do hate Family Guy with a passion Do you care to tell us (okay, me) why? and the fact that McFarlane will be pocketing a cool $100 million to keep his crap on the air until 2012 only makes me angrier. Why shouldn't I be mad at someone who just makes references to whatever shit he saw on TV when he was 10 and becomes a multi-millionaire?  Why should that make you mad? What business is it of yours at all?
A massive amount of money was available and people who control it were convinced by Mr McFarlane to buy his program.
Are you saying that he shouldn't try and flog off his product? Or that he shouldn't take the best price that he can get for it?
A lot of people seem come across as petulant, jealous, mean-spirited, and/or mentally unbalanced when you compare the strength of their feeling with their justifications for it.
There is no need for name-calling. The reason people dislike Family Guy is because it is crap. Retarded crap. Retarded unoriginal crap. The episodes are lazyley written, the characters are 1 dimensional and the jokes are so juveinile that they would make a retarded 3 year old roll his eyes in disgust. A typical Family Guy joke: Lois: Peter, I cant believe that you invited your ex-girlfriend to dinner here tonight! Peter: I know, I dont know what the hell I was thinking, this is worse than that time I got my head stuck in the toilet. [the scene cuts to the bathroom, Peter has his head stuck in the toilet and Brian is staning there] Brian: Wow. I guess I was wrong, your head *can* fit in a toilet bowl. Looks like I owe you five bucks. Peter: I cant breathe. I feel dirty for having wrote that. Anyway, Seth Mac Farlane is an unoriginal hack and I'd punch him in the face if I ever met him.
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hobbitboy

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« #59 : 05-24-2008 09:12 »
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Thanks for the reply, Vanguard20 but it mainly seems to prove my point. Originally posted by Vanguard20: There is no need for name-calling. The reason people dislike Family Guy is because it is crap. Retarded crap. Retarded unoriginal crap. The episodes are lazyley written, the characters are 1 dimensional and the jokes are so juveinile that they would make a retarded 3 year old roll his eyes in disgust. Okay. 'crap' I can understand. Unoriginal, one-dimensional characterisations and juvenile humor are all critisims that I can accept. But then we get... Anyway, Seth Mac Farlane is an unoriginal hack and I'd punch him in the face if I ever met him. Huh? Where in (I'm paraphrasing here) " an unoriginal hack who uses one-dimensional characterisations and juvenile humor to produce work that you* consider to be crap" do you find justification for physical assult? * Remember that a large number of people do seem to actually like his show.
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« #61 : 05-25-2008 06:48 »
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Originally posted by Vanguard20: You mean aside from what I have already stated? How about the fact that Matt Greoning spent FUCKING YEARS struggling to get the Simpsons off the ground and put loads of effort working to get it to where it is today, where as Seth Mac Farlane comes along, makes a bunch of 1D characters who just hurl fart and penis jokes at each other and suddenly he is a fucking millionaire!
[Applauds] Couldn't have put it better myself. A big  to Seth McFarlane's plagarism passing as "satire". Oh, and stretching a "joke" where Peter tries to pick up a dead frog for fifty seconds?!
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