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Chug a Bug
Bending Unit
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« Reply #41 on: 07-31-2006 16:25 »
« Last Edit on: 07-31-2006 16:25 »
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Originally posted by SpaceCase: Nibbler's waste is not neutronium, nor even degenerate matter, but dark matter! IIRC, in one of the first season DVD featurettes, MG or DXC mentioned that they chose dark matter exactly because it was poorly understood!
[*Sigh*] Gawd! I am such] a geek! Yeah I know I was just nitpicking your earlier post. Dark matter is called "dark" precisely because it doesn't interact with other particles, it can't be ordinarily detected, doesn't emit radiation and it only makes it presence known due to it's gravity. It just passes straight through the Earth as if it wasn't there. The point of all this is that Dark Matter was chosen by MG and DXC precisely because it's poorly understood. Which is as good a fudge as any. Just like most other science on Futurama it should to be taken with a mountain-sized pinch of salt, don't take any of it too seriously. It's just a joke!
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SpaceCase
Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #42 on: 08-01-2006 00:09 »
« Last Edit on: 08-07-2006 00:00 »
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Originally posted by Chug a Bug: Dark matter is called "dark" precisely because it doesn't interact with other particles... Ah, no. It can't be directly observed by astronomical means; IE. it doesn't emit light, making it "dark" matter. ... it can't be ordinarily detected... In other words we agree? ... it only makes it presence known due to it's gravity. That's how the Astronomers/ Cosmologists inferred its existance in the first place. ... It just passes straight through the Earth as if it wasn't there. Um... what passes straight through the Earth? Dark matter? Dark matter radiation? Dark matter Gravity? What? Yeah I know I was just nitpicking your earlier post.
Abd I'm returning the favor... Sounds like we're agreeing more than not. If anyone needs me, I'll be under my rock...
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Ralph Snart
Agent Provocateur
Near Death Star Inhabitant
DOOP Secretary
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« Reply #43 on: 08-01-2006 05:53 »
« Last Edit on: 08-01-2006 05:53 »
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::shakes head:: I thought that I was a geek for owning a Star Trek 'red jacket' outfit (from the ST movies 2-6) and for having debated 'Kirk vs Picard' on the old FIDOnet and WWIV BBS's (before the internet), but serious discussions on the weight of Nibbler's by-product makes me realize that there are bigger nerds than me in the world.. And that's a good thing P.S. Don't let Lampy get under your skin - he's hurling himself at neckbreak speed towards an IP ban.
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Xanfor
DOOP Secretary
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Oooo, a thread about Nibbler's poop got to it's second page. Let's keep it up, people! And come on Ralph. We are nerds. What did you expect, weird people who stand up stiff, wear sailing hats and have moustaches, goatees and large halos around their heads? That's the crazyest thing I've ever heard seen!
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SpaceCase
Liquid Emperor
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« Reply #48 on: 08-01-2006 12:59 »
« Last Edit on: 08-07-2006 00:00 »
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Originally posted by Xanfor: You forgot politically incorrect. Actually not: I intentionally omitted it. Now, could we please get back to the matter at hand?
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Xanfor
DOOP Secretary
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You're being rather dark...
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SpaceCase
Liquid Emperor
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>.< D'oh! Me and my great flapping gums... Well, we're proving beyond any doubt something I've believed for a long time: The pun is the lowest form of humor! Now, I'm going to do everyone the best favor I can. [*SC bites own tongue*]
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Xanfor
DOOP Secretary
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I'll be looking foward to reading some of my later fanfics, Chuggy. (Runs around in circles humming the 'Blackadder' theme)
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Bend-aid
Crustacean
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(sigh) Oh well, why should I even bother trying to diss TheLampIncident. After all We're so much better then he is, he's just a immature child. Well i guess you just cant get trough to some people.
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TriggerHappyJim
Professor
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Damn, can someone email me that post? It sounds mind blowing.
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Cardinal Gorkon
Crustacean
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I think everyone's forgetting that in 2208 the speed of light was raised to enable smoother plotline progression for the writing staff.
Since Mass and Energy are related through C, matter now contains more energy, is less massive than it once was, or both. Nibler's fec-o-matter may simply not be as heavy as it once would have been.
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Xanfor
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Cardinal Gorkon, I came up with that idea in another thread. But only you had the idea to use it in this set of circumstances. I bow respectfully before you.
@TomAllen: I deny that. Ah-hah! Ha-ha-ha! Ha!
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TomAllen
Bending Unit
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Oh, mentioning the raising of the speed of light, are you? And your old friend Dr. Einstein's E=mc^2, you think? (Technically, it's E^2=m^2c^4+p^2c^2.) (But we assume the momentum p=0 here. And yes, I am that pedantic. I'm trying to rival David X. Cohen. Which is, like, really hard.)
$#!+. You actually have an almost realistic physical point there. A really good point. Assuming the speed of light (c) has increased, and that the energy (E) remains the same, then the mass of objects (m) at rest must have decreased.
Of course, this raises even more questions.
For example, why hasn't the gravitational interaction between the Earth and its people, etc., diminished? Or why hasn't the orbit of the Earth about the Sun changed?
Well.... Apparently gravitational mass (which is how we compute orbits and weight and stuff) is different than inertial mass (which is how we compute acceleration and the speed of light and stuff.) At the moment, we think the two types of mass are the same. But in the year 3000, who knows?
I still think the Nibblonians did it. Ah-hah!
Therefore I deny you, Xanfor. Ah hah! Ah-ha-ha-ha! Ah-ha-ha-hack-hack. (Excuse me.) Ha!
Also. All this technostuff in a thread regarding Nibbler's poop? I guess we Earthicans do have an awful lot to learn from superior species' feces, don't we?
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Alx_xlA
Crustacean
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If Nibbler's feces did weigh as much as several suns, it would have quickly punched through the Earth's Crust, and crushing the planet into a singularity, which the dark matter should have been anyway. The pellets could probably weigh no more than a couple of hundred tons each. Maximum. One pellet was able to tip the PX ship over, and the ship is designed to carry enormous amounts of cargo.
However, Bender was able to lift several pellets of dark matter, but it was on the hover dolly.
(As an aside, why was the hover dolly crushed under forty pillows, but the other one was able to transport a number of pellets of dark matter?)
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Teral
Helpy McHelphelp
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Each pound of dark matter weigh 10000 pound, which in the more logical and vastly superior metric scale is around 5 tonnes. Originally posted by Alx_xlA: If Nibbler's feces did weigh as much as several suns... We only have Fry's words from "The Why ofFry" for the thousand suns-thingy. Chalk that one up to hyperbole on Fry's part. (As an aside, why was the hover dolly crushed under forty pillows, but the other one was able to transport a number of pellets of dark matter?) The gravity pump on the ship helped the backup dolly by reducing the wight of the dark matter, while the main dolly was taken into an environment it was never meant to operate in. Welcome to PEEL. Enjoy it here.
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Cardinal Gorkon
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The gravity pump on the ship helped the backup dolly by reducing the wight of the dark matter, while the main dolly was taken into an environment it was never meant to operate in. Aye, on Stumbos 4 the hover dolly in question not only had to lift its own weight, which would have been exponentially higher than that of it's pillow cargo. Within the ship the gravity pump would have relieved such stresses from the dolly allowing it to carry the added weight of the niblonian fec-o-matter.
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