Bender: A thousand years with no booze!?!?

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...and he was ENJOYING it? Alcohol fuels his energy cells, so how the heck did he survive 1000 years with no booze?

[#1 :]

Umm . . . magic?  Like the magic I'm using to move this thread?

[#2 :]

Maybe the alcohol mostly serves to power his body. His head can get by with very little fuel, since he would just be sitting there doing nothing.

[#3 :]

I suspect he went into sleep mode to save energy. And they jolted him out of his nice nap with a shovel. Add that to the fact he probably didn't do much of anything so the energy consumption goes waaay down....

[#4 :]

God how can he enjoyed himself for all those years? just think Bender is burried now!

[#5 :]

He probably played country songs inside his head. Or sleep mode felt like a nice nap until the PE crew came along and hit him in the head with a shovel.

[#6 :]

if a standard full body robot can survive up to 300 years without booze (taken from "A head in the pools&quot , a robot head in standby mode maybe can survive 1000 years or more (in this case 1055 i guess,from 1947 to september 3002)

[#7 :]

 

Originally posted by Javier Lopez:
if a standard full body robot can survive up to 300 years without booze (taken from "A head in the pools"  , a robot head in standby mode maybe can survive 1000 years or more (in this case 1055 i guess,from 1947 to september 3002)

From the proportions of his body as seen in Space Pilot 3000, I'd say (with the aid of a calculator and a book on the energy consumption of standard electronic components) Bender's head could survive on standby mode (One-Third Power) for about 5000 years.

The thought wouldn't rest until I'd pratted about with it a little, and got a few people to help. So, at an optimistic guess, Bender had only just nodded off when they woke him up.

[#8 :]

maybe he has entertainment software archived in his memory (he has a Nintendo chip, but just now, i don`t renember if the chip was in his head or in his body) so he can play games like Mario or ..why not, The Simpson and be in standby mode most time... if he switched to standby mode only one second pass to him from 1947 to 3002..


("i hate country music" -Max in "Sam&Max hit the road" 

[#9 :]

He had the Atari chip in his brain - see "Fry and the Slurm Factory"

Incidently, Bender does come out of sleep mode when contact is made with his head - see "War is the H-Word"

[#10 :]

wait...when did bender go 1000 years w/o alcohol? 

[#11 :]

Everyone raise their hands who've seen "Roswell that Ends Well."  FF, keep your hand down.

[#12 :]

A thousand years with no booze??!?!?!?!?! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! I don't know how Bender survived, but it's a nightmare to me, a nightmare I tell you! [curls into little ball and rolls off a cliff]

[#13 :]

Why couldn't he enjoy it? When he's running low on booze, he's actually feeling more and more drunk so I guess that could be the thing he meant with the "enjoying it". Or he's just a selfish bastard who doesn't like the PE crew much... 

[#14 :]

as long as I don't have to go a 1000 anything without booze

[#15 :]

I didn't like the "hold-on" Bender's head since I watched it...

In "Xmas story" someone tell the robots need a minimum amount of booze to survive. So I really don't know how could Bender enjoy it.

[#16 :]

He could have picked up TV on his antenna and watched that, maybe he is watching Futurama as we speak...

[#17 :]

Or perhaps he's asleep in your closet!!
[goes stiff and falls off chair]

[#18 :]

 

Originally posted by aslate:
He could have picked up TV on his antenna and watched that, maybe he is watching Futurama as we speak...

Wouldn't that require FOX actually broadcasting it?

[#19 :]

He must have been covered in rust!!! I loved his 5 o clock shadow LOL

Though I didn't relaise he was 1000 years old?! 

[#20 :]

 

Originally posted by BenderRules:
Though I didn't relaise he was 1000 years old?!   

Only his head is.

[#21 :]

If him personality matrix is kept on something similar to eproms then it could last almost indefinately without power. Ever tried to clear a bios flash rom that doesn't want changing?

[#22 :]

I'm probably thinking too much into this but, if benders head has been buried in the sand since 1947, doesn’t that mean that everything which had happened in benders life to that point, didnt happen?

[#23 :]

 

Originally posted by Otis P Jivefunk:
I'm probably thinking too much into this but, if benders head has been buried in the sand since 1947, doesn’t that mean that everything which had happened in benders life to that point, didnt happen?

hmm...actually yes. unless he knew what he did before he time-travelled, but that would be a paradox and therefore wouldn't make a whole lot of sense...
but then again, it's just a tv show and things aren't suppose to make sense all the time...

[#24 :]

 

Originally posted by Otis P Jivefunk:
I'm probably thinking too much into this but, if benders head has been buried in the sand since 1947, doesn’t that mean that everything which had happened in benders life to that point, didnt happen?

If I'm reading your question right Otis, the answer is no. It just mean that there were two versions of Benders head in the period from Benders activation/assembly 'til the time of the supernova. The one attached to Benders body and the one burried in the desert.

The head attached to Benders body would still experience Benders life as it always was.

[#25 :]

 

Originally posted by Teral:
 If I'm reading your question right Otis, the answer is no. It just mean that there were two versions of Benders head in the period from Benders activation/assembly 'til the time of the supernova. The one attached to Benders body and the one burried in the desert.

The head attached to Benders body would still experience Benders life as it always was.

but what would happen if they meet?

[#26 :]

 

Originally posted by Teral:
 If I'm reading your question right Otis, the answer is no. It just mean that there were two versions of Benders head in the period from Benders activation/assembly 'til the time of the supernova. The one attached to Benders body and the one burried in the desert.

The head attached to Benders body would still experience Benders life as it always was.

Teral, you bring up a very good point but thinking this through it would mean that everything that had happened in the previous episodes would have happened twice.

Once with the Bender who's head was lost in 1947, and once with a different Bender which would be made at the same time the previous Bender had been made. Only this time the previous Bender's head would be buried while the new Bender would be doing everything that the original Bender had done until the point the previous Bender was dug up. That would mean there are two Benders, but why go back for the original Bender (head) when they are essentially the same and have both lived through exactly the same things and experiences up until that point in time?

[#27 :]

Edit: This was directed at Spiff's post.

Nothing. Just ask Data.    Besides Bender seems to understand the problems about changing history, he pretty much said so himself in Roswell. So he would probably shut up, and act like he was some other bending robot.

Of course if you're more to the "Time Cop" explanation then Benders head would be destroyed. Same matter can't occopy the same space.   

[#28 :]

 

Originally posted by Otis P Jivefunk:
 Teral, you bring up a very good point but thinking this through it would mean that everything that had happened in the previous episodes would have happened twice.

Once with the Bender who's head was lost in 1947, and once with a different Bender which would be made at the same time the previous Bender had been made. Only this time the previous Bender's head would be buried while the new Bender would be doing everything that the original Bender had done until the point the previous Bender was dug up. That would mean there are two Benders, but why go back for the original Bender (head) when they are essentially the same and have both lived through exactly the same things and experiences up until that point in time?

Ah, time travel, paradoxes, wonderfull stuff.

Problem is, they (Fry, Leela etc) didn't have any other choice than to go dig up Bender's head. The head original attached to Benders body was lost in 1947.

299?: Benders head is made
299? - 21 september 3002: Bender leads his life
21 september 3002: travels back in time
1947 - 22 september 3002: burried in New Mexico
22 september 3002: reattached.

As of 21 september 3002 there would be two heads with essential the same memories of Benders life until that point, so in a sense you could say that things has happened twice, but from the perspective of each of Bender's heads, they didn't. He lead a straight enough life (just took a detour of 1055 years). Each head experienced the life described above.

IMH(and nitpickish)O, ofcourse.   

[#29 :]

I just had a thought, because everything happened twice that would mean that the crew would have gone to watch the supernova trice, thus going back to 1947 twice. Only this would mean that the second time Fry's Grandpa would already be dead, this would be the result of the screw up in history caused by Fry when he killed his grandpa the first time.

I'm not totally sure about this though because that would mean that not only would there be two Benders, but two of everyone. The only difference is that everyone elses doulble would never meet, only Bender would when his head is dug up. Wouldn't that totally mess up time altogether?

[#30 :]

Steven Hawking: "Great! The entire universe was destroyed."

But I still say that everything only happened once. There was no alternate reality, or parallel universe created, just one big detour for Benders head. 

[#31 :]

I agree. It makes sense in a very strange Douglas-Adams ish sort of way.

[#32 :]

Time itself is a state of change; this negates the Timecop/Back To The Future theory. You, three minutes ago, were not exactly the same You as You are right now. Or now. Or now. Brain cells are recording more useless garbage than a VCR could in eons, molecules are vibrating, blood is coursing, cells are dividing, mitochondria are crapping, tumors are growing, kidneys and bowels are eliminating, parasites are eating, wax and underarm bacteria excrements are accumulating. And everything's aging rapidly. In seven years, almost every cell in your body will have been replaced. Many of them died and were replaced while you were reading this word here. Why are you wasting your precious time reading this horsehockey? Let's continue.

So You can't take You from three seconds/years/decades from now and make You blow up by throwing You at Yourself now, because the only thing that's likely to be exactly the same would be Your first name and that rank odor You emit. The only way to make the theory work is to take You and throw You at You at the exact moment You were taken in order to throw You at You. But that won't work because You were just taken.

Besides, two of anything can't occupy the same space at the same time. Here, I'll try to shove an atom from a pencil into the exact same space as an atom from my eye.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!! J**** H. Lapdancing C*****!! Ow ow ow ow ow!

...but you see, the eye and bone and brain went around the pencil. They can't occupy the same space at the same time. Nothing can. (I'd show you a variation of this experiment, but the FBI took away my fissionable material.) Science-fiction just likes to suggest that "the same space" has a ridiculously imprecise boundary.

There is only one Bender head. There were two Bender heads in existence at the same time for a brief period, but they are the "same" head with different experiences and of different ages and other conditions. One does not negate or otherwise affect the other. If I threw a pencil into a time warp and it fell onto my desk five minutes ago, there would be two pencils there for five minutes, but it's basically the same object--one would be different for just having fallen out of a time warp--but in five minutes, it wouldn't make any difference, because if I don't huck the pencil into the time warp and start stabbing myself with the one that fell onto my desk, then none of it will have happened. Which leads to another fun aspect of Weapons-Grade Balonium in Sci-Fudge...

As far as this whole Terminator-causality thing goes, if time is linear, it doesn't matter if someone goes back in time and changes the past, thereby altering the future so that they don't go back in time. All that matters is that they popped up at one point, affecting that point in time. What do you care? Sure, in an alternate timeline you used to be Bill God Almighty, but now you're just a poor slob with a goiter because I threw a pencil into a time warp.

Ha ha.

I have to lay down now. All this thinking and stabbing make my brain hurt

[#33 :]

Everyone raise their hands who've seen "Roswell that Ends Well."  FF, keep your hand down.

Haha, Oh wow @ myself.

In the Holiday Spectacular after the ship crushed Fry and Leela and the crew, was there enough alcohol on board to power Bender that whole time until he got the oil he needed? Or do you think he went for long periods in a sleep mode?

[#34 :]

He went for long periods in sleep mode.  That's why he didn't notice the process of his friends turning into oil... he woke up and then played games with himself and then saw the oil from his friends.  Just like 2001: A Space Odyssey.

Also, that episode doesn't count for anything.  It's not even a possible reality like the Anthology episodes.  Also, it can be surmised that the first Anthology of Interest actually occurred because later in the series we can confirm that the Professor invents the finglonger.

[#35 :]

So Fry and Leela did make the beast with two backs? In their own bodies? Nevermind that the rest of the crew was killed, anyhow.

[#36 :]

No, probably not.

The events that occurred in the first Anthology probably did not occur.  However, the first Anthology of Interest itself (Bender, Fry, Leela asking questions to the what if machine) was a what if question posed to the what if machine by the Professor when he wanted to know what it would be like if he invented the Finglonger, since the whole episode was just an excuse for the Professor to show off his new invention which he had yet to invent.  Assuming that the What If machine is accurate, then the Professor did indeed invent the finglonger and proceeded to demonstrate it by showing the rest of the crew the What If machine and having Bender, Fry, and Leela ask it their respective questions.  The sequence where Fry and Leela make the beast with two backs in their own bodies will probably never occur because Leela will never be that impulsive.

[#37 :]

My head just broke.

[#38 :]

My head just broke.

[*SpaceCase hands jeepdavetj ISO9000 standard duct-tape*]