Music reviews

[Reply #80 on:]

Venus, you are lucky.  Evanescence is a good band and slowly climbing up to my favorite bands list.  That concert sounded like a lot of fun. 

The most recent one I went to was the Casualties concert.  It was really great. 

Oh, my second TOTP dance of the day!

[Reply #81 on:]

Hybrid Theory EP
1999

1. Carousel
2. Technique 
3. Step Up
4. And One
5. High Voltage
6. Part Of Me

(Bonus track)

This isn't Linkin Park's debut album, Hybrid Theory. This is the EP they released in 1999 before they became Linkin Park, when they were known as Hybrid Theory.

It starts off with 'Carousel', which is a paint peeling track. It uses pretty much all the aspects of Linkin Park in one assualt. Starting with a sample, then some rapping from Mike, then come Chesters paint peeling vocals. Chester sounds particularly fierce in this track, especially with the guitars which have a dowtuned distorted sound similar to KoRn. Also we get a turntable drum fill in the middle mixed in, and the samples are re-used too, it's a very well crafted song, and clool opener.

Next is 'Technique', it's very short at less than a minute, and it's a turntable song. It's kinda simlar to 'Cure For The Itch' and 'Session', and I really love the strings on this track. Then we get 'Step Up', this is a pure hip hop track, but with punchy guitars too. I really love this track, despite Chester not being in it. Some very awesome samples and turntabling too.

'And One' is a really cool Linkin Park song, nice sounds, and Chester is back. Then it's 'Hi Voltage' which many people will know either as a b-side, or remixed on 'Reanimation'. It's another clool hip hop track. And then to end it is 'Part of Me', my persoanl fave track on the EP. It's one of the longest Linkin Park songs, but IMO, one of the best. Mike and Chester are great, and it's just a really solid track. I love the way the opening is used to end the track too, and the whole atmosphere of the track.

I've never heard the bonus track, because unfortunately I don't own this EP. I've tried looking on ebay, but it's really rare and hard to find, and everyone time I find one the seller will only ship to the US, so I'm boned. But I'd be willing to pay a lot for this CD and I'll keep looking. I haven't heard the bonus track though because there's no name for me to look for.

But anyway, I love this EP, and the more I listen to it, the more I start thinking this could even be better than their albums 

9/10

[Reply #82 on:]

I'll have to listen to it then.

[Reply #83 on:]

the mars volta - de-loused in the comatorium

released: 2003
label: gold standard laboratories / universal
total playtime: 60:51
rating: 10/10 - classic

track list:
1. son et lumiere
2. inertiatic esp
3. roulette dares (the haunt of)
4. tira me a las arañas
5. drunkship of lanterns
6. eriatarka
7. cicatriz esp
8. this apparatus must be unearthed
9. televators
10. take the veil cerpin taxt

after at the drive-in broke up, two new bands were formed. one, sparta, consisting of the non-afro-section of at the drive-in, quickly released a very good but rather conventional rock album. the other part, cedric and omar, took their time. but now they're here, with the mars volta's first full album and this might just be the best album of the year.
de-loused in the comatorium tells the story of a young man, cerpin taxt, who falls into a coma. the album describes what he experiences during that coma. but after he comes out of the coma, he decides to take his life anyway.
this story is first of all true, the whole album is a tribute to julio venegas, who was a very close friend of cedric and omar. and just like in a good story, there is no real break in the album. all songs fade into each other, very extreme examples are son et lumiere and inertiatic esp and tira me a las arañas and drunkship of lanterns which can't be really told apart at all.

the whole album creates a universe on its own and destroys it again within seconds. every song creates huge worlds of sound which can suddenly disappear, and then slowly fade in again. jeremy ward, mars volta's sound engineer who recently passed away creates walls of sound which have probably never been there like that before. cedric's voice is somewhere in the area between anger and sadness, desperation and hope. it's hard to describe, you have to listen to it. omar playing the guitar is just too awesome to describe. i do have the impression that this guy is actually moving his fingers faster than light.
musicially, the record offers lots of diversity. from pink-floyd-ish elements to the samba rhythm in drunkship of lanterns which will later culminate in something that comes very close to psychodelic hardcore (still based on a samba rhythm though) over led zeppelin style elements in inertiatic esp to breath-taking 2 minute+ guitar solos (omar and john frusciante, btw) in cicatriz esp, this record offers everything.
and suddenly, at the end of the record, the whole music stops immediately along with cedric's words "who brought me here". if this doesn't affect you, i don't know what will.

this album is actually too big to describe and i find it very hard to write a review about it. it's just too much. even after having listened to it pretty much non-stop for the past few days, i can't say i know only a single song remotely by heart. these songs offer so much depth it's just overwhelming.
this word is also what probably comes closest to the description of the album itself: overwhelming. this is no elevator-background music, that's for sure. this is probably one of the most important pieces of music in the next 10 years.
i'm not able to pick a song as a highlight, because all songs are very good and because, as already mentioned, they all fade into each other anyway.

therefore, this album truely deserves: 10/10 - i'ld say 11/10, but that's not possible...

line-up: omar rodrigues-lopez, cedric bixler-zavala, jon theodore, jeremy micheal ward, flea (yes, that flea from red hot chili peppers), ikey isaiah owens.
producer: rick rubin.

related links: the mars volta.com - offers streaming of drunkship of lanterns

note: my rating is not too much. so far, i haven't read one single only remotely negative review of this record. i think it was rolling stone who called it "the wall of the 21st century".

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I would just like to say that I agree 100 percent with Spiff's review of De-Loused in the Comatorium. Personally, I feel that it's almost impossible to describe like a "normal" "rock" record -- you will have to buy it and listen to it. Don't just download it, because I imagine that it'll lose part of its mystique if you do. Buy this record. I found it for $9.99 at a Tower Records, so it's out there and its worth it.

[Reply #85 on:]

Ah, I just got 2 new CD'S.

First one: TRAPT
 by trapt.
 Released in 2003.
Rating: A-

These guys have got a future, I'll tell you that.  The early tracks are the best, but every song is really good.  My favorite is "Headstrong"- best guitars and really good vocals in that one.  The drumming needs more work, but these guys are just starting out. 

Meteroa
by Linkin Park
Released: 2003
Rating: A

Holy crap, best yet!  Best guitar playing in this one, vocals are awesome and the drums are really good too.  It includes a giant booklet filled with photos and lyrics and band info, and a clip- 'The Art Of Meteroa".  Great job, guys!

 

[Reply #86 on:]

The Mars Volta were playing Witness (Irelands Glastonbury) at the weekend here but I wasn't there to see em!!   

Also, there were 24 bands starting with "The"!!
Enough is enough, I know there's a band called The The's, now somebody should make a band with "The" on the end!!

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Alice in Chains
1995

1. Grind
2. Brush Away
3. Sludge Factory
4. Heaven Beside You
5. Head Creeps
6. Again
7. Shame in You
8. God Am
9. So Close
10. Nothin' Song
11. Frogs
12. Over Now

This is AIC's third and final album, self titled 'Alice in Chains'. Also know as 'Tripod' by some fans, because it's their third album, hense the three legged dog on the cover, and 3 legged man on the back. Although it was their last album, they did manage to release 2 more songs in 1998, which sadly turned out to be their very last, because of Layne Staley's death last year.

I love everything AIC released, and many think that their second album 'Dirt' was their best. Although I love Dirt, I love this album equally, if not slightly more. I find it almost impossible to choose. But although all their albums are different, this has a very difined, and different sound and feeling, and mood to their previous two. After the vibrant Facelift, and drug battle on Dirt, this album has almost a sense of no hope. But yet despite the fact it has that feeling, it's hopless, they'll carry on anyway, and try finding new hope.

One of the biggest differences on this album is Layne's singing, instead of his shouting, and his loud powerful voclas on the previous two albums, on this album the singing is very mellow. He only raises his voice once slightly at the end of 'Again', but the fact this album was even made was a miracle giving his ill health. But I really love the vocal change, and Jerry Cantrell does a lot of helping out too. It's kinda sad that Layne can't really use the power in his voice, but what I love on this album is that the vocals still have a lot of power, even without shouting. They're very harmonic, and mesmorising, and the sludgy guitars contrast to them beautifully.

I love every track on this album, when I first got it I wasn't so keen on 'Frogs', but now I love them all, and as an album they all work togather brilliantly. First off is 'Grind', very bleak lyrics "In The Darkest Hole, you'd be well advised, not to plan my funeral, before the body dies", but the guitars give this track a sense of hope. Jerrys guitar playing is outstanding throughout this album.

Next is 'Brush Away', a very atmospheric song, but very clool too. And then 'Sludge Factory', and that's a really fitting title because wow the guitars are so sludgy on this track, I love them. Also, Near the end there's a lot out of tune guitar playing, but never have I heard before such guitar playing like this that actually worked, and sounds so awesome.

'Heaven Beside You' is next, my fave track on the album. Such a well crafted song, the guitars are really bluesy, but change a lot throughout. A real sense of loss of hope, but carrying on anyway. Then comes 'Head Creeps', a very dark brutal song, and some very tuanting low bass. The drumming on this track is class.

'Again' follows, a really catchy song, simple, but nice riff. Then a slow track 'Shame in You'. It really sticks in my mind, and the way it ends with a different guitar riff, yet fits so seamlessly well is great. 'God Am' follows, a pretty neat track, interesting lyrics. 'So Close' is next, the shortest track on the album. It's pretty fast, but still powerful.

'Nothin' Song' has such an awesome structure. Very hard guitars, and the main riff is so unique. Clool lyrics too "This Nothin' song sticks to your mouth like peanut butter to the brain". Then comes 'Frogs', I wasn't so keen on this track at first, but it grows on you and becomes an essential part of the album. I love the little subtle noises at the beginning, that end it too. It's a very down and depressing track, also very long too, but the guitars hold it through and together, and the lyrical hook.

Last but not least, it's 'Over Now', sadly a fitting title for their last album. I love this track, it's a lot more up beat than frogs, nice contrast. It still has the AIC atmosphere, but the hope is gained at the end of the album. the only sad thing is that Jerry does most of the singing, possibly because Layne didn't have any effort left. But excellently crafted, AIC sure know how to craft their songs and hooks. The guitars are really unusual, Jerry gets a great destinctive sound on this track, awesome ending.

And there you have it, the final AIC album. Different to their other stuff, but just as awesome, if not even better.

9.5/10


 

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As a newbie here, I thought I would add my thoughts.

My favourite band is Slayer. The undisputed gods of thrash metal. Choosing an album is pretty hard but I have to go with the legendary Reign In Blood.

Tracklist

Angel Of Death
Piece By Piece
Necrophobic
Altar Of Sacrifice
Jesus Saves
Criminally Insane
Reborn
Epidemic
Postmortem
Raining Blood

The album was released in 1986 and was produced by Rick Rubin who has also done albums for artists such as the Beastie Boys and Red Hot Chili Peppers.

My favourite track is the final one, Raining Blood. It has a really cool intro which then leads to an onsluaght of extreme heaviness. The album only lasts for about half an hour. The first and last tracks are about 5 minutes. The rest are bursts of speed and fury which usually last from 2-3 minutes.
Other tracks I like are Angel Of Death, Altar Of Sacrifice, Jesus Saves, Criminally Insane and Postmortem.

Another great thing about this band are that they kick ass live. They are one of the tightest playing band I've ever seen. Seeing them live is a wonderful experience. I've even briefly met the band at a manic instore apperance in London last year. I've also seen them live 3 times and intend to see many more shows.

I've also noticed quite a few posts about Metallica. I think St Anger was disappointing. Not as bad as I thought it would be but it's far from being the highlight of 2003. If you want a good metal album, I recommend the new Sepultura and Anthrax or the new albums from The Haunted and Lamb Of God.

[Reply #89 on:]

^ Reign In Blood is The Benchmark album that all Thrash and even some Death/Black albums have been gauged against.  released in 1986, it still sounds as brutal and unrelenting as ever.  29 minutes of sheer devistation.  It effectively keeps all NU Metal Jockrock, Rapcore posers "Trapped In Purgatory"  Seen 'em live 5 times, Jeff has since become a friend, (he seen my band and commented on my playing \m/) .  Hell Fuck Yeah...Slayer Owns.  Two Horns UP!!!!!!!!!! 

[Reply #90 on:]

Damn right! I saw them in London two weeks ago and they played the whole RIB album as an encore! I also heard The Antichrist and Haunting The Chapel which I missed last time I saw them because they played those the night afterwards. ( They did two nights in London last year and also this year).

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Death - Human

Released 1991

Flattening of Emotions
Suicide Machine
Together as One
Secret Face
Lack of Comprehension
See Through Dreams
Cosmic Sea
Vacant Planets
 
This was the fourth album from this band. For this album, frontman Chuck Schuldiner changed the line-up once again ( The band's line-up changed with each album. Chuck was the only member who is on all the albums ).
On drums was Sean Reinert, Paul Masvidal did guitars and Steve Digiorgio handled bass.
Sean and Paul later joined Cynic while Steve went on to join Bay Area thrashers Testament.

The music, as with every other Death album, is quite brutal but also incorporates melody at the same time. The track Lack Of Comprehension is a case in point. It starts with an excellent melodic intro before giving away to the band's trademark brutality and Chuck's harsh vocals. Other tracks I like are
Flattening Of Emotions, Suicide Machine, Together As One and See Through Dreams.

Another good one is 1988's Leprosy which is more brutal then Human and has less melody.
Top picks from that are the title track, Born Dead and Pull The Plug.

Sadly, the band is no more. Chuck passed away in December 2001 after a long battle with brain cancer. He was just 34. I was going to post an mp3 of Lack Of Comprehension but I'm not sure how to do it. Any help would be appreciated.

[Reply #92 on:]

 

Originally posted by bart182:


Deftones - Deftones [2003]

If you can handle something new that the deftones haven't done before, get this album.  But don’t judge it on the first listen, cause if you don’t really pay attention to the uniqueness of this album, you might think it’s “meh” to begin with.

Nicely put. but i would have gave it an 9.5/10 though. (.5 taken off because no record is 'perfect')

[Reply #93 on:]

The Song I like at the moment is Satisfaction by Benny Benassi and it is in no2 in the charts right now. I thik this song is playing around clubs. The one thing I don't the song is the video to it. I think it very sexis and it's so unfair for the woman who don't have the body like a super model. The video show models in tiny bikni doing some DIY and shaking their stuff.

[Reply #94 on:]

Considering that I've spent most of my day listening to Galaxy FM (Dance & R&B *spits* Station in the UK), I can say without fear of contradiction, that I'm ready to ascend the church tower with my AK47 now.  Fucking townie music, driving in their overly plasticised cars blasting this shite from sub-woofer speakers which take up the entire space in their boot - and there's not a brain-cell between any of 'em.

Believe me, it's the only time I believe in mass-genocide.

Did I overreact?

[Reply #95 on:]

 

Originally posted by Melllvar:
Considering that I've spent most of my day listening to Galaxy FM (Dance & R&B *spits* Station in the UK), I can say without fear of contradiction, that I'm ready to ascend the church tower with my AK47 now.  Fucking townie music, driving in their overly plasticised cars blasting this shite from sub-woofer speakers which take up the entire space in their boot - and there's not a brain-cell between any of 'em.

Believe me, it's the only time I believe in mass-genocide.

Did I overreact?

You didn't over react! I never listen to Galaxy FM, it's just...repeative music and drives me nuts. Down with townie music!!

I heard today that thugs ruined a upcoming musician's career by cutting off 3 of his fingers 

[Reply #96 on:]

Bastards!  Fucking bastards! 

I'd like to add that I've been covering at work today, so didn't have any choice on the music I listened to.  Needless to say that I've got this nervous tick now.

[Reply #97 on:]

I truly recommend the death cab for a cutie song "for what reason"

[Reply #98 on:]

I have it on good authority that the new Janes Addiction album is worth buying, and if the single "Just Because" is anything to go by, I'd agree.  It's one of my favourite songs of the moment.

[Reply #99 on:]

I've heard of Jane's Addiction, but I don't know much about them. How long have they been around?

[Reply #100 on:]

A long long time.

By the way has anyone reviewed an album and said "Yeah it's fucking shite. Not even dignifiable enough for a coffee coaster" or do we not admit to those?

I'd just like to say for the record that FOPP is the best shop in the whole wide world. I got Dookie, Appetite for Destruction [GnR], Definately Maybe [Oasis], and Smash Htis [Hendrix and co.] for £20. That one shop got more money from me in 3 days than any other music shop has this year. And they say cheap CDs don't make a profit.

[Reply #101 on:]

This Thread is the greatest!

[Reply #102 on:]

Ok...Here's the other side of the coin...

Thyrane - Hypnotic



2003 Spinefarm/Century Media

Playtime - 50:47

Tracklist:

1. Human Weed       
2. Firework       
3. Glamorama De Mystified       
4. Dance In The Air       
5. Armaya       
6. The Symptomatic       
7. Phantasmal Paranoia       
8. Sickening       
9. Of Suns and Flames       
10. Heretic Hunt 


Having eagerly awaited the follow up to their absolutley fucking devestating album "Spirit of Rebellion" for almost three years.  I was pleased as punch to see "Hypnotic" on my local Metal Shop's new arrival shelf.  The fisrt warning sign to me was the cover art.  Bland scorpion and a oh so modern typeface.  Not being one to judge a book by it's cover, I gleefully plunked down my hard earned munny and repaired to my lair to cranketh the tunage.

Before I get to the review proper, I'll talk a little about their previous effort.  "The Spirit of Rebellion" is a top notch, tumultuous, blackened death metal album.  Rates right up there in my opinion, with the masters of the subgenre.  I'd stack it up next to Dissection - Storm Of The Lights Bane and At The Gates -  Slaughter of the Soul.  Spirit had killer riffage, breakneck pace and outstanding drumming, as a matter of fact Blastmor is/was one of metal's most underrated drummers.  He has very unique style with the double kick, and actually makes walking double kick lines much like a bass player would do.

Now onto Hypnotic.  I looked at the liner notes and noticed they added a keyboard player.  Warning sign number two.  I flipped the disc into my player and received an aural kick to the nads.  What the fuck is this?, I asked the empty room.  Upon first playing, I actually removed the disc from my player to make sure it was infact Thyrane.  Sadly it was.  Gone is the elite riffage and god hating lyrics.  Gone is the singature drum style and killer whiplash inducing pace.  In it's place is crappy overproduced Rammstein like chuga chuga riffs, and boring keyboard heavy mid tempo song structures.  I was and still am angry.  Thyrane let me down.  They have entered the pantheon of the semi-industrial electronic false metal crappenfest.  What the hell happened?  I was so taken with this Finnish Trio's sound on their last album, I emailed them at their old website and got a reply from Avather, their guitarist, thanking me for the kind words.  I visited their new site and was faced with the "We hope you like the new direction we have taken" type thing.  Well, I DO NOT.

The songs are weak and the keyboards are way up front in the mix.  The drumming is a mere shadow of it's former self with only very brief vestiges of that walking double kick.  The guitars are big, but slow and cumbersome.  Like he's playing while wearing boxing gloves.  The boring blips and bleeps from the totally lacklustre (but very foxxy) keyboard player just adds to my outrage.  She is not a good player, and must be Blastmor's girlfriend.  "Sure baby, you can be on the record"   Bah!

Not that there's anything wrong with industrial metal.  There are great examples of that sound like, The Kovenant - Animatronic, ...and oceans - A.M.G.O.D, and Aborym - Kali Yuga Bizzarre.  All great representations of electronic influenced extreme metal.  Why the hell they took that Rammstein/Ministry road to boredom and disdain, I'll never know.

The only thing preventing me from flinging this frisbee onto my neigbours roof, is the few bucks I'll get for it on trade in.  Cuz, that's where it's headed.

3/10 Abysmal. They put the "not" in Hypnotic.     I want Thyrane back.

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Originally posted by Impossible:
I've heard of Jane's Addiction, but I don't know much about them. How long have they been around?

A while (like Archie said).  Their most famous song is "Been Caught Stealing", you'll know it if you heard it. 

They split a few years back and recently reformed.  Lead singer, Perry Farrell, creator of the "Lollapalooza" Tour in America, formed Porno For Pyro's, while guitarist Dave Navarro joined the Red Hot Chili Peppers for one album ("One Hot Minute" ).  I caught Janes Addiction at Leeds Festival last year and was one of the best sets of the weekend.

Stick by any of the alternative music channels (or Radio One, who've playlisted them) to hear new single "Just Because".  My mate, Matt, mailed me to say the album's "the best thing he's heard in ages".

[Reply #104 on:]

Cool    Thanks Archie & Melll   

Oh yeah I found this link the other day:
Girl commits suicide to Good Charlotte song
Can song lyrics really make a person do that?

In other, Impy-related news, my mum got 2 tickets to go and see The Three Tenors in concert in Bath. I may be going with her to seem them, and the tickets were free   

[Reply #105 on:]

 

Impossible:
"Girl commits suicide to Good Charlotte song"
Can song lyrics really make a person do that?

Well, I knew Good Charlotte were shit, but so shit you'd kill yourself??
Maybe if someone's depressed and there are lots of mentions of suicide around them, then they'd be pushed towards it more.
Like when Kurt Cobain killed himself, his marriage to The Evil Courtney Love was failing, and rather than get a divorce she wanted him dead so she'd inherit his money and keep leeching off of his fame, so kept mentioning suicide a lot. And that's why he killed himself.
Allegedly. 

Or maybe Americans are just naturally a bit screwy.
Or this is a Good Charlotte publicity stunt.
Or she was accidentally listening to that 'suicide song' by Ozzy Osbourne.
Or that Hungarian suicide song.
Or Radiohead (where every song is a suicide song!).

[Reply #106 on:]

i read the story and it sounds kinda strange...maybe there was other reason of her suicide?
i can understand suicide but, i can't understand suicide because of some crappy song 

[Reply #107 on:]

I'm familiar with the Blink 182 song mentioned - "Adam's Song." I personally think that song is anti-suicide.

 

The choice was mine I didn't think enough
...
You'll be sorry when I'm gone
I never conquered, rarely came
16 just held such better days
Days when I still felt alive...
I never thought I'd die alone

The Good Charlotte song's lyrics contain:
 

I swear the happiest day of my life
Is the day that I die...
Can you feel the cold tonight?
It sets, but it's alright
Darkness falls, I'm letting go.

They have a different tone to me.

(Off-Topic though this may be a good new thread: I would have Enya's "Book of Days (Far and Away)" played at my funeral over anything else.)

[Reply #108 on:]

I've always hated Good Charlotte.. now look! But nobody listens to me!

[Reply #109 on:]

 

Originally posted by Impossible:
Oh yeah I found this link the other day:
Girl commits suicide to Good Charlotte song
Can song lyrics really make a person do that?

Was going to reply to this yesterday but never got chance, and maybe this deserves a thread of it's own.

Like Ozzy's "Suicide Solution", songs about suicide, depression, don't make you want to kill yourself.  You would have to want to do that before you listen to the song. 

I listen to Joy Division, and I'm fine, I've listened to "Adam's Song" many times, and I'm still alive.  I object to the myth that anything people listen to or watch, can be "dangerous" to the viewer/listener.  One would have to be in that frame of mind to begin with to do it, not the song on it's own would make anyone commit suicide.

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I've just read that article that Impy posted. Interesting stuff, but I do think there has to have been some other motive behind her commiting suicide. Like Melll said, you'd have to be in that frame of mind and have to want to kill yourself first before listening to the song.

Maybe she was a lot more unhappy deep down than her parents realise. In that article her parents percieved her as being happy and called her their 'princess'. Maybe she was unhappy inside but felt she couldn't talk to her parents because they had such high expectations of or her or something. She seemed a bit sheltered actually. Yet it took her to listen to a Good Charlotte song to push her over the edge. Woah, she must have been bad, I mean come on, its Good Charlotte for crying out loud, they suck! 

Still, that said, its still tragic that someone has taken their life.

[Reply #111 on:]

Cynical though it may be, the blame should be directed squarely at the parents.  Fact.

The problem I have with this kind of argument is that the nimbies who decry bands for so-called "questionable subject-matter" in their songs, never consider this:

"Why would a band want their audience dead?"

I mean, really.   

[Reply #112 on:]

OK here is a fact. To get me into a fit of depression is so easy people do it without even realising. My boss did it to me recently by saying that taking Prozac isn't normal. What do I turn this into? I'm a fucked up mental case who is going to die lonely because everyone thinks I am a screwed up psycho*.

Someone who isn't straight in the head can turn almost any set of words around in their head to a point where they hate their life. You can't blame bands for doing that.

Personally the watered down pop shite depresses me more. Lyrics about meating your honeys down the local bar and going for some sweet lovin' make me think I'm ugly and never going to get married ever and die lonely*, so let's ban all pop music full stop.

Fact is people with mental problems have problems with themself which need to be addressed, not their music tastes which 99.9% of people will listen to with no ill effects.

* - I don't think this all the time, only when I'm already depressed for whatever reason. Said words act as a catalyst.

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It all depends on how high profile the murderous band in question is.  Judas Priest and Ozzy Osbourne were blamed for inciting suicides in the 80's.

There is a Finnish band called Sentenced.  Their last three albums have been 100% concerned with suicide.  The bodies would be stacked up like cordwood if Sentenced's lyrics were solely responsible for kicking mopey teens through the goal posts of oblivion.

People are always looking for something to blame.  I blame bad parenting and an unbearable home life for most teen suicides.  To a lesser extent, bad relationships and "peer" issues like bullying, teasing etc.  It sure isn't Good Charlotte lyrics.

[Reply #114 on:]

 

Originally posted by Spice Weasel:
It all depends on how high profile the murderous band in question is.  Judas Priest and Ozzy Osbourne were blamed for inciting suicides in the 80's.

There is a Finnish band called Sentenced.  Their last three albums have been 100% concerned with suicide.  The bodies would be stacked up like cordwood if Sentenced's lyrics were solely responsible for kicking mopey teens through the goal posts of oblivion.

People are always looking for something to blame.  I blame bad parenting and an unbearable home life for most teen suicides.  To a lesser extent, bad relationships and "peer" issues like bullying, teasing etc.  It sure isn't Good Charlotte lyrics.

yeah i agree but there's something we dont know about music. waves. waves can affect people organism and brain in a very very interesting way. i heard that people cant't tolerate 7(?)Ghz. and there're other effects. some criminals use music and crowd to tell things. i dont really know much about that stuff but i know that someone used special music and clapping to make some sort of waves effect. when sientists looked careful at that record they heard 'key-words' (commands). so people were listening to some music and clapping but at the same time they got commands. so music CAN effect human brain. but of course i doubt bands like blink and GC would use it...

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Yeah! Remember that episode of "Saved By The Bell" where Zack uses hidden messages in songs to make girls like him?!! Me neither.

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the plan - only these movements remain

released: 2001
label: matlock records / rewika records
total playtime:: 40:35

tracklist:
1. lit like a monument
2. the new occupation
3. let's hear it for our school orchestra
4. signal and sequence
5. man vs. midi
6. the elements of style
7. brushes held like hammers
8. missive
9. motion = heat

from halifax, nova scotia comes the plan. first founded as a side-project of michael catano of north of america and mackenzie ogilvie of led by regret and equation of state this band soon turned out to be more than your average side-project. so two other members were found and the plan was ready to go.

after the first listen, most people will be left confused. only these movements remain is a grade a mindfuck featuring many different musicial styles, ranging from north of america-style math- and noise-core to jazz-ish parts.
the record starts with a lonely noise-guitar intro. but soon lit like a monument develops into a mean noise-core beast. as in most songs of the album, the most notable instrument at first is the bass. it plays the core melody, it keeps the structure of the song together. the guitars are busy playing dischordal riffs and strange rhythm patterns with lots of the help from the drums on the last one. add to that two guys screaming at each other (sometimes at the same time but different lyrics) and you're there. the new occupation starts with a nice feedback and then unfolds into a solid sound wall which somehow sounds as if the microphones recording that song stood several meters away from the instruments. this makes the song sound very interesting - that is, once you got used to it.
let's hear it for our school orchestra is one of my favorite songs on this album, featuring aggressive and dischordal parts but also some trumpet sounds (although dischordal trumpet playing, i might add). rhythm changes and screaming complete this song. then, after two more rather similar songs, there's suddenly a break. elements of style is a very laid-back, almost jazzy song and it's damn good. followed by two harder songs again, the album ends with the calm and jazzy motion = heat.
if somebody has managed to listen to this musicial mayhem, he has discovered a small world of very weird but good and capturing music. apart from the usual instruments (guitar, drums, bass), he will have also encountered vibraphones, cellos and trumpets, noise samples and some other stuff.

the plan delivers a record which will probably appeal to nobody on this message board (apart from me). people who like hardcore will miss the stereotypical tuned-down-several-octaves-guitars, people who like math rock will be irritated by the jazzy and the harder songs like the new occupation and so on.
but this mixture is it what makes this record great. compared to the musicial innovation delivered by, let's say, linkin park on their last record, only these movements remain should deserve a 10/10. but this record isn't perfect, so it will be 9/10 on my scale.

rating: 9/10

line-up: david harrison, lance purcell, mackenzie ogilvie, michael catano. the band is now defunct, btw.

related links: two songs at rewika (elements of style and motion = heat), one song at matlock records (lit like a monument).

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More new stuff to check out: 

If you've seen the Nokia MP3 Phone advert (with the roadie) in the UK, you will have heard the wicked new song by 'A' - "Good Time".

Oh, and if you like hardcore metal, check out my mates Dan and Gaz's band RSJ, the site has MP3's to download (I recommend "Snort The Flame" ), they're York's best local band, and we're gigging with them on Thursday this week.

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Originally posted by Metdude:
Death - Human
[...]

reminds me of something: i saw a video of death playing live at a festival. the song was called "spirit crusher".
and let me say this: boy, they sucked. not the music itself, the song was your usual metal-stuff with some rhythm changes and some long solos. but their live performance sucked. the song was at least 6 minutes long and the complete time, not a single member of the band moved only a meter. and the stage was huge.
whatever happened to the good old jump-around-on-stage-'till-you-drop-kind of show?
this is not aimed at death in particular, they just reminded me. lots of bands of all genres nowadays stand on stage as if they were glued to the ground. and it sucks.


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i don't have low self-esteem. i have low esteem for everyone else.

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There are a few metal bands that I'm "supposed to like" but just hate them, everything they've put out I just can't get into. 

The bands: Type-O-Negative and Cradle Of Filth.

Never ever try to sell these bands to me, I'll just stop listening, not interested.