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Smarty
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I don't know if anyone has mentioned this, but the General Discussion title is spelled General Disscussion. There's only one s in "discussion." It's actually starting to bother me.
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Svip
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« Reply #643 on: 08-19-2011 19:06 »
« Last Edit on: 08-19-2011 19:09 »
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I don't know if anyone has mentioned this, but the General Discussion title is spelled General Disscussion. There's only one s in "discussion." It's actually starting to bother me.
It will bother you forever! What do you mean by a "white PEEL"? I've been wondering that for a while now.
The 'white PEEL' is obtained through the fact that the stylesheets was not loaded correctly. Because stylesheets appear at the beginning of the document, it is the first (or among the first) external files requested by the browser, which on lesser connections can result in a timeout or denial (because the two connections were so close together), but images may still load because they are requested by <img /> tags rather than the stylesheet (at least on PEEL).
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transgender nerd under canada
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What's really pissing me off in GD is SpaceGoldfish's repeated abuse of the term Uncanny Valley. Either she's never read TVtropes or Wikipedia or she's deliberately misusing the term. So far I can't think of a way to correct her whilst remaining on topic and not being percieved as starting a fight. Yeah it is pretty annoying now.
You're pretty annoying too. I think you should be banned from the TV and GD forums, and everything you say should be auto-spoilered by the board software. And you should possibly be fucked by a rhino, just to teach you that your comments are spam, a spoiler is anything that people have not yet experienced by watching the episode in question, and not every little thought that crosses your mind deserves its own fucking thread in the goofs/weird scenes forum.
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Svip
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« Reply #645 on: 08-19-2011 19:11 »
« Last Edit on: 08-19-2011 19:15 »
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What's really pissing me off in GD is SpaceGoldfish's repeated abuse of the term Uncanny Valley. Either she's never read TVtropes or Wikipedia or she's deliberately misusing the term. So far I can't think of a way to correct her whilst remaining on topic and not being percieved as starting a fight.
You should start a fight, and I will back you up. Now that you notified me of this, it is frustrating me as well. Thanks for nothing! I used to think SpaceGoldfish was cool, now I hate her. Wait, gasp, this isn't the rant thread. What have I doooooooone!? Cue violin music
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Bend-err
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It is a long standing tradition.
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Bend-err
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No, the L is very well not missing. PEEL stands for Planet Express Employee Lounge. PEEL Poll would make little sense since it isn't a poll for the Lounge. So PEE Poll makes perfect sense, since it stands for Planet Express Employee Poll. As can be seen on the wiki.
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Bend-err
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Well, it was the quickest I found, so I might as well took that.
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Bend-err
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Leave me alone, I am drinking cider and watching old Futurama, I am too lazy to check my spelling & grammar on PEEL right now.
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Bend-err
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It was a joke, don't worry. I don't take offence from that.
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futurefreak
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Again, not a complaint, but a suggestion. Is it possible to have an option set up to display our average character amounts per post? Is that even viable? I just thought it'd be a neat idea.
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Svip
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Unless you count the characters each time a post is saved (posted and edited), then store it in the database, then an average would be easy, performance-wise. But you would still have to calculate all the previous thousands and thousands of posts that are not counted by its character count.
But the real question should be; would we really need such a feature?
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i_c_weiner
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I guess the aim would be to see how "productive" a poster is/how "well" someone posts. I wouldn't mind finding out my average words or characters per post, but it's not something I need to know.
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Tachyon
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Interesting, but quantity ≠ quality.
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i_c_weiner
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Actually, I would disagree with that for characters for post. Many have had this debate before, so here's a brief rundown of this position: When you have more characters per post it usually means you have long, thought out, and interesting posts that go through a progression of thought and reach a good conclusion. With shorter posts, it takes a master to make them quality posts. It is probably the hardest thing for a PEELer to do: making that fantastic one-liner retort. If they can master that, then they are truly a quality poster. If they can't, then they are truly not quality.
But, once again, it's not something that I would need to know and thus is a feature that's not worth the effort to code.
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transgender nerd under canada
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From the relationship thread that winna opened just so he could use a "funny" title: Make it on topic as per mArcs terrorist demands benevolent command!
Suggestion: New threads opened solely so that the person doing so can put in the title, or without a cromulent and on-topic first post should be deleted. No matter how many people accept it as a cromulent thread and post in it. Plus, the 20-page limit could probably be upped to 30 without problems now that we have PEEL 2.x - it's not like the board software's having problems handling stuff, is it?
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winna
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I'm not a big fan of necessarily making hard set rules about such matters. You're right about what I was doing, and if the moderator that happened upon the thread first had closed it for that reason, I'd have been fine with that. It didn't help that Beanoz came in to post utter nonsense on top of mine, but that's how threads go in general. The first few posts can be the determining factor in whether the thread is received well and not completely locked down within its first few moments of infancy.
The problem I see with proposing hard set rules like you described is that they could just as easily be circumvented. I could have just as easily told several lies to make that thread, for example, and it would have seemed a reasonable thread. I'm not so sure that there's a solid reason for that type of thread anyways, and thus I'm arguing that things are better in a collective subjective perspective than the hard, fast rules you're suggesting. [-mArc-] did a good job of setting the precedence there, so the moderators have a good idea on judging whether they can follow suit in that manner. I also trust the moderators to large extents to use their judgements in a reasonable case-by-case manner. Faze decided, in your example, to mention that the thread wasn't up to par, and the course of the thread steered itself in the correct direction. As I said, I'd have been fine if it got closed or deleted.
Arguably my behavior was less than noble in my pursuit of that manner, but a small infraction like that in large spans of time seems hardly a serious concern to consider; it would be wholly different if I, or anyone else, was doing it on a regular basis. In which case, I would probably advise that somebody talk to a moderator about specifically curbing that individual's behavior.
As another tangent, mArc did a good job cleaning up the garbage in this particular thread. I was actually really upset that it got off tangent so quickly because I'm aware of this thread's importance to PEEL. I knew that the most I could do was say something in response to the other people, but that would just increase their liklihood to respond, so I decided to wait until someone else could clean it up.
As for your 30-page limit suggestion, I think it would be easy enough to set about doing as far as PEEL's software is concerned; in fact, I don't think there's a hard limit written for the maximum number of pages a thread can contain (although I don't know that to be true). So, it's one of those things (like racing to name threads) that's just a bit of PEEL tradition, and I personally prefer those traditions to some extent. To make another points, I think the 20 page limit makes PEEL look rather clean compared to other message boards, gives us a little variation from time to time, and gives the moderators something to do that they can enjoy and stretch their moderation muscles.
All of this is of course merely my opinion; my opinion certainly isn't law or even a generally accepted guideline, but I figured it would be reasonable and worthwhile to provide a counter perspective to the new ones you're suggesting.
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transgender nerd under canada
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one tricky bit with 30-page threads is that if it is retroactive, it breaks gibberish of 50% of existing totp's, and making it not retroactive would be prohibitively difficult.
What the hell? Seriously, all it would mean doing is not closing threads until P30 now. Which [-mArc-] has just nixed. So whilst I know [-mArc-] is listening, I'm going to direct him to this question which remains unanswered.
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futurefreak
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I really don't see the difference between thirty pages and twenty pages. The thread is going to close anyway, and twenty pages has typically been a good length for thread life. You start extending it to 30 then it will be 40, 50, 100...and PEEL likes variety.
One issue I always encounter is when I am looking for a particular thread or post. I have to keep increasing the page number by only ia few ncrements, as in Page 3, Page 6, etc. I can't just jump to Page 100 of 200+. This is probably only affecting me because I sometimes look for particular posts of a given day when I am writing, and this is after the search function doesn't query exactly what I need. It's not something big or anything, just thought I would bring it up.
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futurefreak
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Makes sense, thanks. What about the pages in each forum? Like, General Disscussion has over 200 pages of threads. How would you jump to say, page 50 in one move as opposed to 15+?
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