germanfryfan
The Listmaker
Urban Legend
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« Reply #40 on: 07-15-2004 22:02 »
« Last Edit on: 07-15-2004 22:02 »
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I don't have seen the opponents but I think that there is a good chance that Futurama will win. The Sting possibly is the best choice, since it is one of the best episodes of the last season. Beginning with jokes going over to a dramatical plot with lots of emotions and ending with jokes again ("you really could use a shower" - "you too" ). So here is hoping:
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Beamer
DOOP Secretary
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I think The Sting has a good chance... the dark humour, crossed with the shippiness and trippiness of the episode is really different from all the other stuff there. It's a stand-out episode, that's for sure. Although, for the record, I haven't actually seen any of the other stuff being nominated except for It's Christmas Time In Canada, which has no chance in hell of winning... why didn't they nominate Raisins? That's easily the best South Park episode from last year.
Anyway, long story short - go Futurama!
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Mr. Potter
Professor
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Originally posted by canned eggs: I didn't say the show was routinely bad; I just think that most of the nominators got the tape, saw "Simpsons" on it, and nominated it without watching it, on the strength of the name alone. And I'm afraid some may do that for the final voting. I know quite a bit about awards, and predictions and all that stuff, but I really can't predict the results of this awards. But I do know something, I'll be very surprised if Futurama wins one of these awards. Also, The Sting has more chance of a win that Jurassic Park had. At least The Sting has a WGA nom and that raises its possibilities.
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DotheBartman
Liquid Emperor
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Originally posted by canned eggs: I didn't say the show was routinely bad; I just think that most of the nominators got the tape, saw "Simpsons" on it, and nominated it without watching it, on the strength of the name alone. This particular episode does not deserve an Emmy nomination on its own merits alone. Well, I think it does, and I'm far from alone...but the episode's quality aside, these judges could very well have seen the "Simpsons" name on the tape and nominated it because they like the show and know it will (in their eyes) be quality anyway. Its a good point that many shows are probably nominated mainly on name, but I don't think its fair to assume that The Simpsons is getting nominted only for existing. If almost the entire public thought the show had slipped, then that could happen, but currently most people (including probably a lot of those judges) consider it to be still good, if not better then ever.
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Spacedal11
Space Pope
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Besides Nasty Pasty I must say The Sting is the best fu**ing episode in the whole wide world! GO FUTURAMA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GO THE STING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *Takes short off and runs around the campus like a jackass*.
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DotheBartman
Liquid Emperor
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Originally posted by canned eggs: Apostasy! Jurassic Bark may not be everyone's cup of tea, but everyone must admit that it was expertly conceived and wholly successful in its ambition. Its ambition may have been depressing, but that's art.
Three Gays of the Condo was so bad I felt physically ill. It was a fifth-rate ripoff of an episode the Simpsons had already done, and already won an Emmy for (I think). Their original gay episode, with John Waters, was awesome. Three Gays of the Condo was utter shit from beginning to end. It just wasn't funny, and had less than zero success dealing with its "serious" issues. I am continually appalled that it won.
If "Three Gays" is a third-rate rip off then "Jurassic Bark" must be shit since its even more similar to "Luck of the Fryrish" (and I do NOT really mean that by the way. "Jurassic Bark" is my favorite episode). "Three Gays..." is hardly a rip off of "Homer's Phobia". It utizilizes a gay theme, yes, but its still completely different. "Homer's Phobia" is a satire of homophobia about Homer trying to "protect" Bart from homosexuality. "Three Gays..." is a Homer/Marge relationship story with a twist, and the gay theme simply provides an amusing backdrop. Now I'll give it that "Three Gays" may have won some votes for "tolerance" issues or whatever, but the episodes themselves are far different from each other. With that said it was a huge disapointment that The Simpsons won that one. "Jurassic Bark" is, as I said, my favorite episode. My personal all-time favorite episode of Futurama vs. an episode of The Simpsons that I liked just enough to warrant a "B+"....even though my opinion of the Simpsons episode is certainly positive, that's still a pretty huge disapointment. But I wish people would stop lobbing these unfair allegations towards "Three Gays of the Condo" just for the sake of saying that Futurama should have won instead. There are plenty of perfectly good reasons one could state about why "Jurassic Bark" was better that don't involve tired "OMG its just liek skully lol" arguments.
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Mr. Potter
Professor
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Originally posted by KAH: Whenever I've watched the Emmys I never see animated shows? why is this? do they not televise it? There are two ceremonies. One for the "important" awards and another for the technical awards, variety shows, animated series, etc. The latter is not shown live, but usually the E! Channel shows a summarized version of the event some hours later. The "important" ceremony is the day after.
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User_names_suck
Professor
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Its difficult to know how the judges will go, at the WGA awards the sting was up against 3 Simpsons episodes among a couple of other shows. and they gave it to the worst Simpsons episode of the 3. anyway here's an intresting quote from Roger Myers III A NHC member with insane amounts of inside infomation. regarding the possible outcome. I'm not in the award prediction biz, but I'd guess that:
"The Sting" might take the ep emmy, b/c writer Verrone is a beloved bigwig in the Writers' Guild, which gets him a lot of votes;
"The violence stops" in song, b/c Childs is a rock 'star' who speaks out against abuse, and the song is a sympathetic message;
"24" for score, b/c its music has been particularly praised (and Copeland's won too many times before.)
This is politics, btw - not who I think is 'deserving'.
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Idan_Aharoni
Professor
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I dont care if Futurama wins because they're the best at giving b**wj**s, as long as they win.
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Fry´s Girl
Crustacean
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I just don't think that particular episode of the Simpsons was Emmy worthy. I don't watch much Samurai Jack, but the animation is very good. The Sting is a fantastic ep, touching without being overly sappy. Not to mention very romantic. GO FUTURAMA!!!!!
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Wesley
Delivery Boy
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Originally posted by DotheBartman: I mean what decent live action sitcoms have there even been lately? Scrubs. Which, ironically enough, has also constantly been snubbed. Arrested Development is also quite good, and was rightfully nominated.
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IndieRocker J
Crustacean
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The Simpsons just isnt as good as it used to be. Either the crew has gotten tired of doing it or they have run out of ideas. The jokes are really not funny and the plots are too stretched.
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Gorky
DOOP Secretary
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Originally posted by IndieRocker J: The Simpsons just isnt as good as it used to be. Either the crew has gotten tired of doing it or they have run out of ideas. The jokes are really not funny and the plots are too stretched. I think that, after 15 years, a decline in quality should be expected. Sure, the show isn't as great as it once was (although this past season ranks right up there with seasons 1-8 in my opinion), but it is still the best show on network TV. And the whole "they're out of ideas" theory is definitely debatable. Granted, the writers have to think more when it comes to formulating an episode's premise, but they still have lots of fresh ideas. I agree to an extent that the show isn't as funny as it used to be, simply because really funny jokes are few and far between. But, throughout the course of a new episode, there are enough great gags to make watching it worthwhile. I guess what I'm trying to say is that, although the show isn't as great as it once was, it still has enough life in it to warrant emmy noms and its large fanbase.
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Wesley
Delivery Boy
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Originally posted by Mr. Potter: Very true, but at least "My Screwup" got deservedly nominated for Best Screenplay. Yeah, better than nothing. If it doesn't win, it would be robbery, though. I would seriously consider "My Screwup" to be some of the best television I've seen in years. If any of you have not seen this episode, I urge you to watch it any way you can ASAP. Originally posted by DotheBartman: To be fair I haven't seen either. I pretty much officially gave up on live action comedy after "Andy Richter Controls the Universe" got cancelled. And when Futurama went off, I officially stopped watching anything other then The Simpsons on Fox, and won't watch anything else on that network. Fair enough, though Scrubs is on NBC, so it's fair game, no?
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Gorky
DOOP Secretary
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Originally posted by Wesley: Well, Fox renewed it for another full season despite the show finishing something like 75th in ratings last season. Plus they are giving it the 8:30 slot after The Simpsons, so I think they really want to stick with it and give it a chance to build an audience. Thank God. This is the most brilliant live-action show in years; it can't die! Oh yeah, and DotheBartman, that's basically my attitude towards network TV; it's awful. I pretty much gave up on live-action, until I caught a glimpse of Arrested Development. I really recommend that you watch it.
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