DOOP/Army?

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I don't understand the DOOP/Earth Army thing in Futurama.  Zapp Brannigan is commander of the Earth Army, and a captain in the DOOP, yes?  But is his uniform DOOP or Earth Army?  In War is the H-Word, when the Earth Army attacked Spheron 1, why were they using DOOP helicopters?  It just doesn't make any sense: they seem to be used as the same thing.  Can someone clarify?

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i cant remember what doop stands for but its more of a galactic congress which tries to keep world peace like in Star Wars, they are polititians and try and keep the peace whereas zapp is in charge of earths army.
Zapp is a captain of DOOP as its his job to keep the peace and DOOPs helicopters were used as they obviously saw spheron 1 as a threat.

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Think of DOOP (Democratic Order Of Planets) as NATO and the Earthican army as the US Army wait, the Earthican Army is patheticly weak, let's call it the Letzebourg Army, ie. one of the member armies.

While the organisation can act as a unity, it's just as likely for the individual members to have their own little adventures, like the Falkland War and Gulf War, part II.

Zapp's uniform is a DOOP uniform, since his main post is commander of the Nimbus, a DOOP vessel. That doesn't prevent him from returning to command the Earthican army, when Earth wage an independent war such as the Ball Conflict. That was a purely Earthican-Ball affair, hence Earthican  soldiers were used. They wore Earthican uniforms as well. They probably borrowed the helicopters from the Nimbus.

[Reply #3 on:]

Damn Teral you know a lot.

[Reply #4 on:]

Teral is a genius.

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Teral, were you serious when you said Letzebourg was a memeber nation. I presume you meant to say Luxembourg.
Although the rest of your explanation was excellent, although I think the DOOP has more in common with the attitudes of the UN.

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Originally posted by Teral:
Think of DOOP (Democratic Order Of Planets) as NATO and the Earthican army as the US Army wait, the Earthican Army is patheticly weak, let's call it the Letzebourg Army,

No. of US soldiers killed in latest stupid war: 682

No. of Letzebourg soldiers: 0

maybe weak but not fighting an evil war...

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I thought Letzebourg and Luxembourg were one and the same...

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Originally posted by Iron Chef:
Teral, were you serious when you said Letzebourg was a memeber nation. I presume you meant to say Luxembourg.

Yeah, I was talking about Luxembourg. Letzeburg is the local name for the country.
 

Although the rest of your explanation was excellent, although I think the DOOP has more in common with the attitudes of the UN.

True, but the UN doesn't have it's own military. DOOP is most likely placed somewhere between the UN and NATO.

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The UN does have a peacekeeping force at its disposal, which it has mobilised in times of great need. Similar to how I imagine the DOOP would use an army.
This though is probably getting too far into the realms of politics.

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Just veering one tiny iota further off-topic: The UN can authorize the implemention of a peacekeeping force, but it's completely dependent on the member states to contribute soldiers and funding (which they're not obligated to). The UN (or more precisely the Security Council) don't have a standing peacekeeper force, or even a pool of potential units to draw from. Even when units are placed at the disposal of the UN, a command structure needs to be made, often with confusing authorities and political interference. The DOOP fleet looks more like a professional, standing force, with a permanent command structure. [/tangent]

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[scruffy] yup. [scruffy] *eats chip

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Originally posted by Teral:
The DOOP fleet looks more like a professional, standing force, with a permanent command structure. [/tangent]

professional?   

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im with whoever's statement made the most sense. as i didn't seem to understand any of that and i studied the UN for 6 weeks recently. so in conclusion i belive that politics should not be allowed!

p.s yes i know that this message is completely idiotic but i don't care because i am an idiot

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<scruffy> second. <scruffy>

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Originally posted by Gocad:
 professional?   

As in "getting paid for what they do", not "being actually competent at it".

Doh, I should've seen that one coming a mile away.

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Yes, I see where you are coming from Teral, I tend to see the UN as a standing force, but that is unrealistic.
I bow down at your fantastic knowledge of international orginisations

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I wouldn't exactly say that, I've just had personal reasons to know the rules and regulations regarding peacekeepers intimately a while back.